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moash

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Not Convinced? Why Water Quality is Essential to Plant Health
by Trevor Holt2010-08-01Print Email
When choosing an appropriate site for a hydroponic set-up we sometimes overlook the quality of the water that supplies the site. The way you water your plants and the amount of water you give them can be a major factor in the plant’s overall health. You have to ask the question, “How clean is the water?”

Most town water should be suitable for plant growth, however, I would advise you invest in a water purification system, not only for the plant’s benefit but also your own! You just don’t know what is being thrown into the water to make it safe to drink.

A few years ago we experienced a Cryptosporidium and Giardia outbreak. As well as people getting sick, there was a major rush of growers experiencing root zone problems. No matter what they did the problem continued to haunt them. Initially, they blamed everything from the nutrient they were using to propagation gels, additives and the advice they received. As each case was investigated they found that even though all systems, lighting, airflow, growing methods and nutrients used were very diverse, all growers had the same problem. Naturally a common denominator was researched and it was, of course, water. Some growers were hard to convince, considering they were on town supply and, therefore, the overriding belief was the water quality must be of a high standard (if it’s safe to drink it must be okay for my plants). Not so.

Did you know that over 50 different chemicals can be legally added to our town water supply in order to make it safer to drink without us even knowing? Here are just a few of the major ones that can also affect your plants: calcium hydroxide, potassium aluminum sulfate, liquefied chlorine, sodium silicofluoride, sodium hypochlorite solution, fluorosilicic acid and various other electrolytes. This is not taking into account the number of chemicals that are added to our water supplies unintentionally. Most of our catchment areas are exposed to the elements, some of which may include lead, copper, pesticides, herbicides, asbestos and raw sewage. I’ve seen plants that look absolutely amazing when small and as soon as they are exposed to the main system, they crash. Why? Poor water quality. Even if you are drawing your water from bores or rainwater from the roof, you still run the risk of collecting a high mineral load, which when fed to your plants can affect the nutrient levels, potentially giving your crop toxic shock.


Commonly known as 'killing plants with kindness', most growers assume that the plant will take as much water as you can throw at it. If the water you are supplying to the plant does not have the right oxygen, nutrient, pH and water mix, the plants can actually drown in a saturated mess.
Rusty, galvanized or copper pipes also contribute to higher levels of heavy metals such as zinc (zincalume) and iron in the solution. If these metals are present in any quantity, your plant will experience toxicity symptoms even if you are using a balanced full spectrum nutrient. A good way to check if your water is suitable is via a digital salt meter (nutrient tester). If you get a reading in water above one conductivity factor (CF) you would be wise to consider a water purifier of some sort. The purer the water and the more neutral the pH in your water supply, the better. Before I continue, I have to tell you that out of all the growers who were experiencing root zone problems, only one continued having problems (eventually driving the client to abandon hydroponics) because he was the only one who didn’t buy a water purifier. For a small investment of around $200, he lost a fortune. Think about it.

Overwatering is a common problem with novice and experienced growers alike. Commonly known as killing plants with kindness, most growers assume that the plant will take as much water as you can throw at it. This is another fallacy. If the water you are supplying to the plant does not have the right oxygen, nutrient, pH and water mix, the plants can actually drown in a saturated mess. Oxygen is unable to get to the plant and consequently they start to suffer, developing deficiency symptoms. Brown, blotchy leaves turn down and start to wilt. The grower panics and throws more water and nutrient in the system, unwittingly overdosing their beloved plants; the end result - the plant dies. If you experience this, you need to drain off the media completely. You can gradually bring the plant back to good health by feeding it oxygen-rich pure water. Good drainage is essential to the recovery process; therefore, consider the media (substrate) you are using. If you are doing everything right, new growth should start to appear in approximately two weeks. Plants generally take about that long to recover from a stressful situation.

Underwatering produces very similar symptoms; however, they can occur more quickly with more dramatic consequences. It can be a scary sight to check your garden and find your entire crop has suddenly wilted overnight. The problem is a result of one thing: lack of water. Check that your water pump is working and is clear of any root matter or fine media particles. Take the pump apart and clean it thoroughly. If this is the problem, it is easy to rectify and the plants should recover with no noticeable damage within a couple of hours. Once the watering cycle resumes, hourly checks to mark the recovery progress must be adhered to. Regular maintenance of everything that services the growing environment is essential, which will ultimately lead to a successful end result. Try to visit your greenhouse or grow room once a day to avoid the above mentioned catastrophes, especially during the flowering stage. Think of it this way: “A little maintenance a day keeps the problems away,” and you’ll get to reap the benefits at harvest time.

Oxygenation’s Role in Healthy Water
Oxygen keeps a plant’s root zone healthy and allows the uptake of nutrients. Oxygen is the key to a high growth rate. Without oxygen around the roots, the root cells would die leading to root rot (Pythium) and the eventual death of the plant.

You cannot grow in water unless you have dissolved oxygen in it, so a well oxygenated nutrient solution is essential for a healthy root zone. The fine root hairs take up the nutrients and oxygen, and obviously the more root development, the more nutrients the plant can take up, hence a healthier plant and better yields.

If you have still and stagnant water you’re asking for trouble because that will cause root death due to oxygen depletion, which in turn could cause Pythium, a fungal disease, to run rampant, or even attract harmful bugs like the scarid fly (fungus gnats).

Recirculating systems add that essential element, oxygen, to hydroponics. When oxygen increases, so does growth, and in many ways it is more important to consider than nutrients.

Root zone temperature also plays a very important part in overall tank control, and the ability for plants to take up oxygen, water and nutrient. The ideal root zone temperature is between 68 and 75°F. If the temperature falls below 68°F plant growth will begin to slow, and if it reaches 57°F, plant growth will stop altogether. On the other hand if the root zone temperature rises above 75°F the need for oxygen by the plant increases as the dissolved oxygen that is in the tank decreases. This can have a devastating effect on the plant and can accelerate outbreaks of Pythium spores and other root zone diseases.

My golden rule of oxygen: plants cannot take up their nutrients unless oxygen is present. The more oxygen, the faster the uptake of nutrient, but watch the temperature too!
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
Not Convinced? Why Water Quality is Essential to Plant Health
by Trevor Holt2010-08-01Print Email
When choosing an appropriate site for a hydroponic set-up we sometimes overlook the quality of the water that supplies the site. The way you water your plants and the amount of water you give them can be a major factor in the plant’s overall health. You have to ask the question, “How clean is the water?”

Most town water should be suitable for plant growth, however, I would advise you invest in a water purification system, not only for the plant’s benefit but also your own! You just don’t know what is being thrown into the water to make it safe to drink.

A few years ago we experienced a Cryptosporidium and Giardia outbreak. As well as people getting sick, there was a major rush of growers experiencing root zone problems. No matter what they did the problem continued to haunt them. Initially, they blamed everything from the nutrient they were using to propagation gels, additives and the advice they received. As each case was investigated they found that even though all systems, lighting, airflow, growing methods and nutrients used were very diverse, all growers had the same problem. Naturally a common denominator was researched and it was, of course, water. Some growers were hard to convince, considering they were on town supply and, therefore, the overriding belief was the water quality must be of a high standard (if it’s safe to drink it must be okay for my plants). Not so.

Did you know that over 50 different chemicals can be legally added to our town water supply in order to make it safer to drink without us even knowing? Here are just a few of the major ones that can also affect your plants: calcium hydroxide, potassium aluminum sulfate, liquefied chlorine, sodium silicofluoride, sodium hypochlorite solution, fluorosilicic acid and various other electrolytes. This is not taking into account the number of chemicals that are added to our water supplies unintentionally. Most of our catchment areas are exposed to the elements, some of which may include lead, copper, pesticides, herbicides, asbestos and raw sewage. I’ve seen plants that look absolutely amazing when small and as soon as they are exposed to the main system, they crash. Why? Poor water quality. Even if you are drawing your water from bores or rainwater from the roof, you still run the risk of collecting a high mineral load, which when fed to your plants can affect the nutrient levels, potentially giving your crop toxic shock.


Commonly known as 'killing plants with kindness', most growers assume that the plant will take as much water as you can throw at it. If the water you are supplying to the plant does not have the right oxygen, nutrient, pH and water mix, the plants can actually drown in a saturated mess.
Rusty, galvanized or copper pipes also contribute to higher levels of heavy metals such as zinc (zincalume) and iron in the solution. If these metals are present in any quantity, your plant will experience toxicity symptoms even if you are using a balanced full spectrum nutrient. A good way to check if your water is suitable is via a digital salt meter (nutrient tester). If you get a reading in water above one conductivity factor (CF) you would be wise to consider a water purifier of some sort. The purer the water and the more neutral the pH in your water supply, the better. Before I continue, I have to tell you that out of all the growers who were experiencing root zone problems, only one continued having problems (eventually driving the client to abandon hydroponics) because he was the only one who didn’t buy a water purifier. For a small investment of around $200, he lost a fortune. Think about it.

Overwatering is a common problem with novice and experienced growers alike. Commonly known as killing plants with kindness, most growers assume that the plant will take as much water as you can throw at it. This is another fallacy. If the water you are supplying to the plant does not have the right oxygen, nutrient, pH and water mix, the plants can actually drown in a saturated mess. Oxygen is unable to get to the plant and consequently they start to suffer, developing deficiency symptoms. Brown, blotchy leaves turn down and start to wilt. The grower panics and throws more water and nutrient in the system, unwittingly overdosing their beloved plants; the end result - the plant dies. If you experience this, you need to drain off the media completely. You can gradually bring the plant back to good health by feeding it oxygen-rich pure water. Good drainage is essential to the recovery process; therefore, consider the media (substrate) you are using. If you are doing everything right, new growth should start to appear in approximately two weeks. Plants generally take about that long to recover from a stressful situation.

Underwatering produces very similar symptoms; however, they can occur more quickly with more dramatic consequences. It can be a scary sight to check your garden and find your entire crop has suddenly wilted overnight. The problem is a result of one thing: lack of water. Check that your water pump is working and is clear of any root matter or fine media particles. Take the pump apart and clean it thoroughly. If this is the problem, it is easy to rectify and the plants should recover with no noticeable damage within a couple of hours. Once the watering cycle resumes, hourly checks to mark the recovery progress must be adhered to. Regular maintenance of everything that services the growing environment is essential, which will ultimately lead to a successful end result. Try to visit your greenhouse or grow room once a day to avoid the above mentioned catastrophes, especially during the flowering stage. Think of it this way: “A little maintenance a day keeps the problems away,” and you’ll get to reap the benefits at harvest time.

Oxygenation’s Role in Healthy Water
Oxygen keeps a plant’s root zone healthy and allows the uptake of nutrients. Oxygen is the key to a high growth rate. Without oxygen around the roots, the root cells would die leading to root rot (Pythium) and the eventual death of the plant.

You cannot grow in water unless you have dissolved oxygen in it, so a well oxygenated nutrient solution is essential for a healthy root zone. The fine root hairs take up the nutrients and oxygen, and obviously the more root development, the more nutrients the plant can take up, hence a healthier plant and better yields.

If you have still and stagnant water you’re asking for trouble because that will cause root death due to oxygen depletion, which in turn could cause Pythium, a fungal disease, to run rampant, or even attract harmful bugs like the scarid fly (fungus gnats).

Recirculating systems add that essential element, oxygen, to hydroponics. When oxygen increases, so does growth, and in many ways it is more important to consider than nutrients.

Root zone temperature also plays a very important part in overall tank control, and the ability for plants to take up oxygen, water and nutrient. The ideal root zone temperature is between 68 and 75°F. If the temperature falls below 68°F plant growth will begin to slow, and if it reaches 57°F, plant growth will stop altogether. On the other hand if the root zone temperature rises above 75°F the need for oxygen by the plant increases as the dissolved oxygen that is in the tank decreases. This can have a devastating effect on the plant and can accelerate outbreaks of Pythium spores and other root zone diseases.

My golden rule of oxygen: plants cannot take up their nutrients unless oxygen is present. The more oxygen, the faster the uptake of nutrient, but watch the temperature too!
I keep telling people that water quality does matter.:weed:

Good post!:clap:
 

sniffer

Well-Known Member
so what is the bottom line here ?
r/o water or nothing ?
i have to use tap water from detroit.
i let it bubble 18 to 24 hours before use ,, and my plants grow great.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
hence the laughing face at the end
even with the smiley, sarcasm fails to land here...GREAT POST

Water in the midwest was okay, little hard. Water on the east coast was good, perfect. Water in northwest was great, glacial. Water in Cali...hit or miss. Out in the canyons my water was so shitty it had chunks of white crap in it, according to the water company it was part of the worst well collective in the county. Here in the city, I use a pacific sands as a pre-filter and then a small boy. the pre-filter makes the small boy last forever, so pretty cheap to maintain. Let it sit and bubble for a night to bubble & come to temp, good to go.

what do you think about that?

ps: is quoting the whole first post a party foul or a big up? honest question.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I keep telling people that water quality does matter.:weed:

Good post!:clap:
you're being too humble. you penned a great article on this subject.

so great that i spend $1.13 per gallon of water i use for <1 ppm water.

and yes, mattrize, the nw has some bomb ass tap water.
 

smallclosetgrowr

Well-Known Member
to sum it all up dont get your water from a well or swamp..if we are drinking the tape water then im sure its fine for weed, i also heard that the metals in our tape water is good for the plants it aids them with iron,zinc and other shit..my nutes have gold in them
 

moash

New Member
even with the smiley, sarcasm fails to land here...GREAT POST

Water in the midwest was okay, little hard. Water on the east coast was good, perfect. Water in northwest was great, glacial. Water in Cali...hit or miss. Out in the canyons my water was so shitty it had chunks of white crap in it, according to the water company it was part of the worst well collective in the county. Here in the city, I use a pacific sands as a pre-filter and then a small boy. the pre-filter makes the small boy last forever, so pretty cheap to maintain. Let it sit and bubble for a night to bubble & come to temp, good to go.

what do you think about that?

ps: is quoting the whole first post a party foul or a big up? honest question.
i think thats cool
i heard sand was a very good filter
i think that is what is used for filtering rain barrels

also,quote whatever u want...its a somewhat free country
 

leftreartire

Active Member
i guess you can always go get a britta filter if you are concerned about your water quality.i have never been one to worry about using my tap water. i feel if its safe for me to give to my kids then it is safe to give to my plants. weed has been growing for thousands apon thousands of years. before we ever tested our water quality so i just dont worry about it..i guess i would have better results if idid but i have good yeilds that i am happy with my results
 
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