Prop 19 --> effects price in cali --> effects price nation wide?

MrStickyScissors

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worth every penny for that many plants :)
yeah I was pretty shocked. the guy is a hippie and was telling me how to post the recs on the wall for the cops and to take pictures cause the cops are dirty and will say they wernt posted. he was definitly for me growing 99 plants lol
 
man h tex is where it is at, the bud down here sucks so people spend a shit load on good bud... but the good thinf is coca cola is dirt cheap and makes for good swaps
 
so why are all the clubs still charging $65?
Because the commercialization of marijuana and economies of scale has not been reached. When individual growers are selling to dispensaries for themselves through the normal, slow process under their own strict capital requirements, they end up not having the resources to expand to a point that a private business would be able to by raising capital. That is, once businesses are able to come in and mass produce, and I mean MASS PRODUCE, the amount of marijuana that is available. And as I have said time and time again, when an efficient enough business gets into the crop producing world, prices drop dramatically.

You all need to understand that certain cities will have the ability to either allow or disallow the cultivation of marijuana on a commercial scale. Those that do are pretty fucking stupid because not only will they be forgoing the taxes on revenue and plot allocation, and the last thing they want is money to leave their city. They want it to flow in.

Keep in mind there are probably many private enterprises in the moment that have drawn up plans in some way or another to jump on this. Botanists themselves are probably doing the same thing as well. Imagine massive glasshouses or fields where marijuana is grown year around. This is the image that comes to mind. And even if it doesn't happen immediately, a step towards that direction is only possible through Prop 19.
 

poplars

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Because the commercialization of marijuana and economies of scale has not been reached. When individual growers are selling to dispensaries for themselves through the normal, slow process under their own strict capital requirements, they end up not having the resources to expand to a point that a private business would be able to by raising capital. That is, once businesses are able to come in and mass produce, and I mean MASS PRODUCE, the amount of marijuana that is available. And as I have said time and time again, when an efficient enough business gets into the crop producing world, prices drop dramatically.

You all need to understand that certain cities will have the ability to either allow or disallow the cultivation of marijuana on a commercial scale. Those that do are pretty fucking stupid because not only will they be forgoing the taxes on revenue and plot allocation, and the last thing they want is money to leave their city. They want it to flow in.

Keep in mind there are probably many private enterprises in the moment that have drawn up plans in some way or another to jump on this. Botanists themselves are probably doing the same thing as well. Imagine massive glasshouses or fields where marijuana is grown year around. This is the image that comes to mind. And even if it doesn't happen immediately, a step towards that direction is only possible through Prop 19.

I've tried explaining this before . .. . it is futile. those who don't want to believe it wont until they see it for their own eyes.


simple enuff.
 

angelsbandit

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"will I still be able to sell pounds in colorado for 3000?"


You should read Colorado's most recent laws - you can't sell anything unless you are a MMC, and there are many hoops to jump thru not to mention the fees required.

Colorado laws have changed, and will continue to become more restrictive based on current trends.
 

fdd2blk

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Because the commercialization of marijuana and economies of scale has not been reached. When individual growers are selling to dispensaries for themselves through the normal, slow process under their own strict capital requirements, they end up not having the resources to expand to a point that a private business would be able to by raising capital. That is, once businesses are able to come in and mass produce, and I mean MASS PRODUCE, the amount of marijuana that is available. And as I have said time and time again, when an efficient enough business gets into the crop producing world, prices drop dramatically.

You all need to understand that certain cities will have the ability to either allow or disallow the cultivation of marijuana on a commercial scale. Those that do are pretty fucking stupid because not only will they be forgoing the taxes on revenue and plot allocation, and the last thing they want is money to leave their city. They want it to flow in.

Keep in mind there are probably many private enterprises in the moment that have drawn up plans in some way or another to jump on this. Botanists themselves are probably doing the same thing as well. Imagine massive glasshouses or fields where marijuana is grown year around. This is the image that comes to mind. And even if it doesn't happen immediately, a step towards that direction is only possible through Prop 19.
apparently you have never been to a medical warehouse grow.
 

fdd2blk

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I've tried explaining this before . .. . it is futile. those who don't want to believe it wont until they see it for their own eyes.


simple enuff.
believe what? the market is cali is flooded and the price still keeps going up. i can walk into a 100 different stores and buy pot over the counter. no price drop. i can pick up the newspaper, search the classifieds, make a phone call and have pot delivered to my front door. still no change in the market though.

so how "legal" does it have to become to see this so called "price drop"? completely? because being medical legal hasn't effected prices at all. according to everyone's logic, it should.


if a business can get 60 dollars an eighth today, they will not lower their prices tomorrow. especially when they are going to be adding TAX to it. :wall:


but i'm dumb, so whatever.
 

poplars

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believe what? the market is cali is flooded and the price still keeps going up. i can walk into a 100 different stores and buy pot over the counter. no price drop. i can pick up the newspaper, search the classifieds, make a phone call and have pot delivered to my front door. still no change in the market though.

so how "legal" does it have to become to see this so called "price drop"? completely? because being medical legal hasn't effected prices at all. according to everyone's logic, it should.


if a business can get 60 dollars an eighth today, they will not lower their prices tomorrow. especially when they are going to be adding TAX to it. :wall:


but i'm dumb, so whatever.
I've tried to explain it before and I will do so ONE MORE TIME.....


the difference is, there is NO mass produced brands of cannabis. therefore it is impossible to pick one brand over another on a vast scale, therefore there will be no true competition because the playing field is different EVERYWHERE you go.


if the playing field was the same, the stores, etc. all had to be on the same isle competing with other brands, then one brand can choose to lower his prices based on the production costs without lowering quality.

and if the other brands hope to stay in business (assuming they have the same quality) they have to lower their prices or they will go out of business.

welcome to economics 101....
 

fdd2blk

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I've tried to explain it before and I will do so ONE MORE TIME.....


the difference is, there is NO mass produced brands of cannabis. therefore it is impossible to pick one brand over another on a vast scale, therefore there will be no true competition because the playing field is different EVERYWHERE you go.


if the playing field was the same, the stores, etc. all had to be on the same isle competing with other brands, then one brand can choose to lower his prices based on the production costs without lowering quality.

and if the other brands hope to stay in business (assuming they have the same quality) they have to lower their prices or they will go out of business.

welcome to economics 101....
so the price doesn't drop until they put a cute label on it? that's how the market works? hahahahahahaha, good one. :clap:

so the club down the street can't lower his price because his grower has 2000 pounds? :?

i'm not buying it. ;)
 

fdd2blk

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and i'm well aware of economics.

i go to the club with a pound of top shelf and ask 4000 for it.
joe is standing next to me with a pound and he is only asking 3500 because he has quite a few.
the club buys joe's and charges the same price they would if they bought mine.
why?
because that's is what people will pay.

businesses will charge as MUCH as they can productively get away with.

economics 202. ;)
 

poplars

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omg I'm fuckin done.


actually nevermind....

I can't buy FDD weed in walmart up here can I?

I can't choose to buy one brand over another and have it have a serious affect over the whole market system of weed as it is now can I?


the way market works now you're the king of your block, or your area, but if it was true competition you'd have to start a business that distributes to every store in the area . . . . then you grow based on people buying your product over others when there is a level playing field (a store) that you can all go to and expect the same products to be there (minus the super high quality) as they are in any other store.

its simple, its not because it has a fancy name on it, its because having a BRAND NAME allows you to COMPETE on an equal level. one brand can choose to be cheaper without sacrificing quality thus everyone can go to the same store in th eir area and have an effect throughout the whole market system making that brand flourish and the others fail.


I'm not explaining it again.
 

fdd2blk

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omg I'm fuckin done.

yeah you are.


it's called supply and demand.


right now the supply is greater then the demand.


yet the price hasn't dropped.


cause marlboro ain't sellin' it.


yeah, your theory makes about as much sense as Christianity. ;)


OMG :roll:
 

NirvAnamation

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Here in the Midwest, The Land of Oz, Mids go for $65-$80 an oz (like you guys care about mids though). Anything better than mids isn't always common, $15-$20 a G for any good weed.
 

fdd2blk

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omg I'm fuckin done.


actually nevermind....

I can't buy FDD weed in walmart up here can I?

I can't choose to buy one brand over another and have it have a serious affect over the whole market system of weed as it is now can I?


the way market works now you're the king of your block, or your area, but if it was true competition you'd have to start a business that distributes to every store in the area . . . . then you grow based on people buying your product over others when there is a level playing field (a store) that you can all go to and expect the same products to be there (minus the super high quality) as they are in any other store.

its simple, its not because it has a fancy name on it, its because having a BRAND NAME allows you to COMPETE on an equal level. one brand can choose to be cheaper without sacrificing quality thus everyone can go to the same store in th eir area and have an effect throughout the whole market system making that brand flourish and the others fail.


I'm not explaining it again.

do you do any vending in california?

so supply and demand means nothing?

i speak based on personal experience. as in "i'm right here i with cash/weight in my hand".

please, tell me how it works again. :sleep:
 

poplars

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do you do any vending in california?

so supply and demand means nothing?

i speak based on personal experience. as in "i'm right here i with cash/weight in my hand".

please, tell me how it works again. :sleep:
your version of supply and demand is to the local club.

my version is to every store in an 100 mile area or more . . . . .
 
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