The RIU prop19 poll vote here.(california resident only pleace)

[veggiegardener]

If we were to require age to be mentioned, I'd say the vote is over 35, no, and under 35, yes(except for the older ones that want to get rich, killing sick people).

No, I DIDN'T say vote yes or no!

LOL

 

[Needofweed]

this poll is getting interesting

 

[deprave]

I wasnt going to vote since im not a california resident then I look at the thing and I see peoples names on both yes and no that are not California residents so I just went ahead and voted anyway lol

 

[CultivationArt]

Iv never acually seen no take the lead in any threads. lol
i dont think its gonna pass because of you guys, id like it to
no argue, i know the truth behind it, im just willin to accept it.
im ok with it. but im defintily voting yes

 

[RxReefer]

Ok, Ok.... I know this is a fairly pot friendly forum. However, some of us oppose Prop 19 for very obvious reasons. Here are the best reasons I have seen so far as to why we should oppose Prop 19:


www.opposeprop19.com

 

[veggiegardener]

Ok, Ok.... I know this is a fairly pot friendly forum. However, some of us oppose Prop 19 for very obvious reasons. Here are the best reasons I have seen so far as to why we should oppose Prop 19:


www.opposeprop19.com

Anyone who has been in this for any amount of time knows about Harry's affiliation with William Randolph Hearst.

He was influenced by big business because making Cannabis illegal increased the value of Hearst's timber holdings, many times over.

His reasons for Cannabis prohibition are the same as those supporting 19.

Money and power.

 

[Cali.Grown>408]

im voting no cuz i dont want things to change for the worst..by what i hear and what i have read it sounds like there ganna try to fuk us over..but if prop 19 REALLY doesn't conflict with prop 215 then im all for it

 

[Matt Rize]

http://www.steephilllab.com/industry...t-oct-2010.pdf

Here goes Steep Hill Lab's report, They cover some of the possible affects of Prop on 19 on medical Cannabis.

"1- Shrinking of doctors’ sector. It seems feasible that if patients can get their cannabis without a doctor’s recommendation, they will do so.

2- Reduction of cannabis price overall. While this seems inevitable, Prop. 19 passing or not, the passing could speed up the process. Low income patients who cannot afford recommendations would be able to utilize local dispensaries. The increased demand would be met with increased supply and increased competition from dispensaries. This is a recipe for lower prices on the retail side.

3- Increased effort from outdoor growers to market their products. Outdoor cannabis is far cheaper to produce than indoor. With more price declines, outdoor cannabis becomes more competitive. Technological advances in outdoor growing are already closing the gap between indoor and high- end outdoor quality cannabis. With marketing, consumers may begin to migrate back to outdoor cannabis.

4- Expansion of capital investment from other industries. Investors are waiting for legalization. Hundreds of millions of dollars will flow into the industry over the next five years."

Big up the researchers! Some really interesting ideas here, like the outdoor gaining in popularity. GO STEEP HILL LAB!

 

[Matt Rize]

im voting no cuz i dont want things to change for the worst..by what i hear and what i have read it sounds like there ganna try to fuk us over..but if prop 19 REALLY doesn't conflict with prop 215 then im all for it

AGREED. And we won't really know how that may play out unless it passes...so what will we do Californians? I heard 49% yes and 42% no.

 

[Cali.Grown>408]

with all the people who smoke weed im thinking it will pass but hoping it wont..and if it does i sure hope they dont fuk over us growers

 

[Matt Rize]

http://podcasts.dreamhosters.com/pcr/CannabisCuts/CannabisCuts-20100928.mp3

Big up Pirate Cat radio, Cannabis Cuts, and DeeJay Wiid.

This debate gets HEATED. Highlights include a challenge to go outside and fight, a challenge of baketball: Kushman with a joint in his mouth vs Rev Allen, and the Rev. gets corrected repeatedly by the moderator. LOL

 

[Sure Shot]

The latest poll of 2,004 likely voters throughout the state by the Public Policy Institute of California reports that 52 percent of Californians back Prop. 19, versus 41 percent opposed and seven percent undecided.

 

[Sure Shot]

Eyes wide open!

After much reading and much support for this proposition, I must reveal my new opposition.
I have picked it apart a few times, racked my head over a few times and came to this conclusion.
There is way too many restriction put upon the average user/cultivator!
As backwards as that sounds.
This carefully scripted paper truly opens the door only for big business.
Without large collateral, any budding entrepreneurs have no chance of success and that is apparently intentional!
I cannot in good mind, back something that crushes the "little guy".
Instead, I think we should focus our efforts towards influencing our Governor to sign the bill lessening possession charges. This bill has already made it through and is sitting on his desk.

In short I say this...,

Don't vote Yes, or No. Vote Next!​

 

[tc1]

Average restrictions?


Right now ... the average person can't use or grow marijuana period.

 

[khm916]

Average restrictions?


Right now ... the average person can't use or grow marijuana period.

The average Californian can....if you think otherwise its called 215. If marijuana betters your life in any way, you can get a script.

 

[tc1]

The average Californian can....if you think otherwise its called 215. If marijuana betters your life in any way, you can get a script.

You guys keep saying this. But that's not what Prop 215 says.

 

[TokinPodPilot]

You guys keep saying this. But that's not what Prop 215 says.

And you keep saying that. It's not our fault that we can read and only have like 15 years of legal precedent to back us up.

 

[luvourmother]

This is all very frustrating, I literally cannot believe that so many people here do not want legalization in california.

I am voting Yes on 19 and campaigning everyday until Nov 2 to help encourage others to vote Yes.
All of you that say we already have legalization because of 215 are quite frankly lying to yourselves. Having to pay a fee for a Dr's recommendation and medical card every year in order to not end up in jail is NOT legalization. When Prop 19 passes we will not have to waste our money on these stupid recommendations.

 

[TokinPodPilot]

This is all very frustrating, I literally cannot believe that so many people here do not want legalization in california.

Once again, just because you can't tell the difference from a legitimate legalization/decriminalization bill and a commercialization one doesn't mean the rest of us stop using our brains. As a long time proponent of decriminalization and responsible legalization, the potential flows of this bill are all too apparent and the powers granted to local municipalities give them far too much license to circumscribe the lives of the populace regardless of will of the people.

I am voting Yes on 19 and campaigning everyday until Nov 2 to help encourage others to vote Yes.
All of you that say we already have legalization because of 215 are quite frankly lying to yourselves. Having to pay a fee for a Dr's recommendation and medical card every year in order to not end up in jail is NOT legalization. When Prop 19 passes we will not have to waste our money on these stupid recommendations.

No, instead you'll waste your money on consumption and use taxes and also have to comp the retailer the other associated fees incurred as natural consequence of commercial ventures. No one goes to jail for simple possession. Currently they'll get a misdemeanor and $100 fine. Come January 1, they'll just get a ticket.

 

[tc1]

The YES votes hit 60%

Nice ...