veggiegardener
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No. It is about control of Cannabis by a small group of wealthy businessmen.
The RIU prop19 poll vote here.(california resident only pleace)
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The Ruiner
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And a total hand-out/compromise with law enforcement to criminalize the thousands and thousands of medical growers.
Serapis
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They won't give the real answer anyways.... Most of the ones voting no have personal motivation to avoid taxation on the "medicine" they sell back to dispensaries for one, they also fear their massive gardens may be reduced to 5' x 5', even though the prop specifically states it would not. Some are also upset that the law makes it a felony to provide or smoke marijuana with those under 18 years of age.
Serapis
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How do you give control to a few wealthy businessmen when you are allowing private, non-declared marijuana gardens all over the state? Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
The Ruiner
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Why would we give the real answers when we have all of you pro-19 people to make them up for us?
The Ruiner
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You however, dont have linear thought processing and cant see how criminalizing current medical growers leads to allowing the "legitimate" commercial growers total market dominance, medical or otherwise.
Serapis
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3 times in the prop 19, it specifically states that the new law would not affect patients that are under 11362.5
Why do you insist on ignoring those exclussions? Please explain how exactly prop 19 criminalizes legal grows under 11362.5. This should be very enlightening. Please educate me.
veggiegardener
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The other shoe WILL drop, when all those jurisdiction ban home growing, which P19 specifically allows.
Baby killer.
Prove you're not.
The Ruiner
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Explain how your analysis means absolutely anything to prop 19 and I will give a shit what you say you out of state meddler.
Serapis
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They are given the ability to tax and control marijuana sales in their district. Please show me what section of the statute allows localities to ban personal home gardens that prop 19 allows across the state.
As for the Baby comment, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, so I'm not sure what your reference of guilt has to do with prop 19....
veggiegardener
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If you bother to read critically, you might realize that no where in the text is Medical Marijuana cultivation excludede from the 25 square foot rule.
PROVE OTHERWISE.
I've asked for this dozens of times, and received only reassurances, in return.
Nothing concrete.
No on P19.
Serapis
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Prop 19 has started a conversation about decriminilization across the entire United States. It is being covered in national news. The passing of such a bill has wide sweeping potential to topple prohibition. rather than blow me as an out of stater, answer my question and substantiate your claim please. Prop 19 has the NATION'S attention. If you don't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
Now please explain how legal gardens under 11362.5 are going to be criminlized under prop 19. I'm still waiting....
Sure Shot
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Great question!
IMO, Some powers that be don't like the results of any of the prop19 polls.
I'ld love to be proven wrong.
GNOME GROWN
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ok wait,so pretty much the people votein no to prop19 are the people that r makeing killer profits off their medical grows and dont wanna be taxed up the ass?!?!... understandable i guess, but think about all the other ppl that dont even have legal rights to medicinal growing!...where im from they decriminalized up to an oz, but theres not medicinal usage here nor can u grow!...so if prop 19 pass's in cali i think it would open up doors for other states to atleast start medicinal usage!...sorry if this makes no sense,i just blazed some hash out the bong! 
Serapis
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Where the prop specificall states 3 times
"except for patients under 11362.5" There are three exclussions. Also lawyers for High Times and NORML have explained their legal interpretations and all conclude, that gardens under 11362.5 are not affected under prop 19. Please use your legal expertise to prove them wrong and I'll be on your side.
veggiegardener
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You accuse us of greed as our motive in our resistance. That is as legitimate as my belief that you kill babies, when not lying on this forum.
Clear now?
Serapis
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Yes you understand perfectly now.ok wait,so pretty much the people votein no to prop19 are the people that r makeing killer profits off their medical grows and dont wanna be taxed up the ass?!?!... understandable i guess, but think about all the other ppl that dont even have legal rights to medicinal growing!...where im from they decriminalized up to an oz, but theres not medicinal usage here nor can u grow!...so if prop 19 pass's in cali i think it would open up doors for other states to atleast start medicinal usage!...sorry if this makes no sense,i just blazed some hash out the bong!
And you made good sense.
TokinPodPilot
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The title of the proposition is "Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010", not "Cannabis Legalization Act" or "Cannabis Decriminalization Act". Regulation, taxation and enforcement (control) are components of commercialization. California Senate Bill 1449 was a true decriminalization bill. Any true legalization legislation would not add criminal charges for activities currently decriminalized, which Prop. 19 does. As I've said before, we don't need new cannabis laws, we're doing fine getting rid of the ones we already have.
The Ruiner
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I am still waiting for your words to carry any weight whatsoever...until then you are just a know-nothing internet blow-hard.