The 25sft rule of Prop 19 - How Much Can I Really Grow?

[mr2shim]

The ignorance in this thread is appalling. How hard is it to understand the reason for the 25sq ft limit? I'll make it easy.

The reason they chose a small number like 25sq ft:

Because Marijuana is currently a Schedule 1 drug in over half the Country.

What's Schedule 1? It means it holds no medicinal or medical value and is very dangerous and has a high potential for "abuse"

Making a Schedule 1 drug legal is a scary thing to many Americans so if you really want it to pass you have to have some VERY strict regulations to make it be acceptable among the masses.

Use your brain people, do you really think the mass population would be ok with Jo Schmo growing 80 pounds of reefer next door to Jill Jane and her perfect family? No? I thought so..

When you use your brain you can answer even the dumbest questions. Isn't critical thinking fun?

cliff notes: Ganja smokers aren't the majority of the population, so a bill or prop has to be written to fit the majority of the population. Hence the stupid regulations. If you EVER want to see marijuana legal it WILL have to come down to this. Otherwise this stupid ass "drug" war will go on for hundreds of years and millions of lives ruined for a fucking plant..

Seriously, pull your fucking head out of your stupid fat asses for two seconds and start thinking.

 

[Hayduke]

The ignorance in this thread is appalling. How hard is it to understand the reason for the 25sq ft limit? I'll make it easy.

The reason they chose a small number like 25sq ft:

Because Marijuana is currently a Schedule 1 drug in over half the Country.

What's Schedule 1? It means it holds no medicinal or medical value and is very dangerous and has a high potential for "abuse"

Making a Schedule 1 drug legal is a scary thing to many Americans so if you really want it to pass you have to have some VERY strict regulations to make it be acceptable among the masses.

Use your brain people, do you really think the mass population would be ok with Jo Schmo growing 80 pounds of reefer next door to Jill Jane and her perfect family? No? I thought so..

When you use your brain you can answer even the dumbest questions. Isn't critical thinking fun?

cliff notes: Ganja smokers aren't the majority of the population, so a bill or prop has to be written to fit the majority of the population. Hence the stupid regulations. If you EVER want to see marijuana legal it WILL have to come down to this. Otherwise this stupid ass "drug" war will go on for hundreds of years and millions of lives ruined for a fucking plant..

Seriously, pull your fucking head out of your stupid fat asses for two seconds and start thinking.

Quick! Everybody vote yes for legalization!!! This guy really needs to get high!!!

 

[mr2shim]

Quick! Everybody vote yes for legalization!!! This guy really needs to get high!!!

hahaha, no I don't NEED to get high. It's been months since I've smoked and I'm quite alright. Do you agree or disagree with what I posted becuase it was quite a lot and you didn't really elaborate on anything.

 

[Hayduke]

hahaha, no I don't NEED to get high. It's been months since I've smoked and I'm quite alright. Do you agree or disagree with what I posted becuase it was quite a lot and you didn't really elaborate on anything.

I think this is a California Voter Initiative, put on the ballot by the people of California...we do not give a fuck about the masses. The point of the whole MMJ/recMJ is that it is scheduled wrong and always has been...WE ALL KNOW THIS!

The 25sqft is a prohibition that limits your ability to cheaply grow all you need, while simultaneously allowing you to fill the void by purchasing marijuana from the author of the initiative but very few others.

That's what I think...But I am pretty much just a towel...

 

[veggiegardener]

Quick! Everybody vote yes for legalization!!! This guy really needs to get high!!!

He's on the East Coast. Let him go to Amsterdam.

 

[veggiegardener]

I think this is a California Voter Initiative, put on the ballot by the people of California...we do not give a fuck about the masses. The point of the whole MMJ/recMJ is that it is scheduled wrong and always has been...WE ALL KNOW THIS!

The 25sqft is a prohibition that limits your ability to cheaply grow all you need, while simultaneously allowing you to fill the void by purchasing marijuana from the author of the initiative but very few others.

That's what I think...But I am pretty much just a towel...

Sometimes towels are right, as well.(big fan of Toweliee. Spent last Winter watching all the episodes. About 200).

 

[budling357]

I cant get the smile off my face.

Not only will my vote contribute to the progress of America, but it will cancel out veggiegaydeners vote. Two birds one stone.

 

[mr2shim]

I cant get the smile off my face.

Not only will my vote contribute to the progress of America, but it will cancel out veggiegaydeners vote. Two birds one stone.

Good job! Progression for America. Too bad people are too concerned about their own personal gain to care about something bigger than themselves.

 

[desert dude]

The ignorance in this thread is appalling. How hard is it to understand the reason for the 25sq ft limit? I'll make it easy.

The reason they chose a small number like 25sq ft:

Because Marijuana is currently a Schedule 1 drug in over half the Country.

What's Schedule 1? It means it holds no medicinal or medical value and is very dangerous and has a high potential for "abuse"

Making a Schedule 1 drug legal is a scary thing to many Americans so if you really want it to pass you have to have some VERY strict regulations to make it be acceptable among the masses.

Use your brain people, do you really think the mass population would be ok with Jo Schmo growing 80 pounds of reefer next door to Jill Jane and her perfect family? No? I thought so..

When you use your brain you can answer even the dumbest questions. Isn't critical thinking fun?

cliff notes: Ganja smokers aren't the majority of the population, so a bill or prop has to be written to fit the majority of the population. Hence the stupid regulations. If you EVER want to see marijuana legal it WILL have to come down to this. Otherwise this stupid ass "drug" war will go on for hundreds of years and millions of lives ruined for a fucking plant..

Seriously, pull your fucking head out of your stupid fat asses for two seconds and start thinking.

You are absolutely correct. I already cast my ballot; I voted for prop 19. I hope the rest of CA voters did too.

 

[Dan Kone]

The 25sqft is a prohibition that limits your ability to cheaply grow all you need, while simultaneously allowing you to fill the void by purchasing marijuana from the author of the initiative but very few others.

Really? You NEED to grow more than 1.5-2.5 pounds every 10 or so weeks? That's "personal" use?

 

[Hayduke]

Really? You NEED to grow more than 1.5-2.5 pounds every 10 or so weeks? That's "personal" use?

Just because you CAN produce that much...does not mean that you can afford to!!! Nor does it mean that I would want to smoke that crap...High yield = weak pot...and hell I often flower for 10 weeks!!

The space is too restrictive for outdoor growing!

Being forced to pay SDGE a ridiculous amount of money for artificial sun and all the fans and a/c to cool it is not legalization...it makes the cost of growing your own prohibitive to the masses. Last months Electric bill is $181 with NO A/C!!!! and only a 400w light.

 

[desert dude]

Let's first be clear ...

Prop 19 states perfectly clear that it is a 25 square foot area. Most people come to the common conclusion of 5x5 because it's the simplest calculation with regarding to the square footage. But under Prop 19 your grow space design can be ANY measurements which equates to a 25sft surface area or less.


So let's use 5 gallon buckets as our grow medium shall we? Plenty of room to grow big beautiful buds in a 5 gallon container. (As this site very well proves)

The diameter of a 5 gallon bucket is generally between 11.5" and 12". Let's pick 12" for the sake of high balling our figures. That makes a radius of a 5 gallon bucket 6" which in return gives us a surface area of 0.785 square feet.

Now that we know our square footage for each bucket. We now know we can fit 31 5 gallon buckets (24.335 square feet) in our grow area. "But what about a veg chamber?" you say ... Good point.

Let's decide to keep a veg chamber for our moms and clones .... Let's put a chamber that is 2 feet deep, 2 feet wide, and 6 feet tall in our grow. This allows us to keep anywhere between 4 to 10 mothers and dozens upon dozens of clones in circulation depending on the size of the medium for our mothers and the design of our chamber. In this example our chamber will hold 5 mothers in 3.5 gallon buckets along with room for clones to begin their vegetative growth. The chamber will have an upper rack full of cuttings as well.

Now that we've added the chamber ... We only have 21 square feet left. This gives us room for 26 5 gallon buckets. Interesting ...


Ok ... so now we get out our kilowatt HPS lights and begin doing our thing. A couple months later we have returned to find 26 fully matured plants of sticky icky. Now maybe we aren't great growers .. maybe we are.

So let's completely and UTTERLY low ball our grow and say we got 2 ounces per plant. (2 ounces .. with multiple kilowatts of light? ouch ... we need to get better at this whole growing thing). 2 ounces x 26 plants = 52 ounces of marijuana.

That equates to 3.25 pounds of marijuana. 3 1/4 pounds every 3-4 months folks.

A year later we've really got the green thumb and getting better (thanks rollitup!).
Now we're pulling 4-6 ounces per plant.

We now have anywhere from 6.5 pounds to 9.75 pounds of marijuana every 3-4 months.



I'd say 25 square feet is plenty of room to grow marijuana wouldn't you?

If you aren't voting YES on Prop 19 because of the "25 square feet rule" ... please reconsider.
Some of us are unwilling to risk our families in order to grow marijuana illegally. So help make it legal.

Does p19 reference "canopy", or soil foot print? If the limitation is on canopy, then 25 square feet will not support 25 plants.