Someguy15s Perpetual 1kw Pineapple Express & More

how long do u vedge your clones before topping and supercropping? and how long after? also how many can u fit in your growspace and how much do you usually yeild? i ask because i have a very simalar setup and about the same amount of space but have never topped and supercropped before. any advice?
 

Someguy15

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how long do u vedge your clones before topping and supercropping? and how long after? also how many can u fit in your growspace and how much do you usually yeild? i ask because i have a very simalar setup and about the same amount of space but have never topped and supercropped before. any advice?
I usually top them after they recover from the transplant shock and start growing well, about 1.5-2 weeks after potting them (after a 2 week root). I use supercropping whenever buds are getting too tall or I need to even out the canopy to get the light uniform. Not sure on yeild, havn't ran the 1000 over a table before. Hoping for 24 oz though. I usually fit 9-12 depending on size and how cramped they are... 9 is really enough for a 3x3 though.
 

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Looking great someguy, my vote goes to the kandykush and the pineapple to start first. I want to see the pineapple cause thats next on my list and you already know why I want you to pop the KK :)

+rep for a bad ass setup and plants!

Oh yea and subbed of course ..
 

Someguy15

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Looking great someguy, my vote goes to the kandykush and the pineapple to start first. I want to see the pineapple cause thats next on my list and you already know why I want you to pop the KK :)

+rep for a bad ass setup and plants!

Oh yea and subbed of course ..
I've been growing the PE since my first round... check out these

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/298214-second-400w-mh-hps-journal.html
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/326571-third-600w-medical-grow-pineapple.html
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/335014-someguy15s-round-4-1kw-pineapple.html

I have 8 PE going right now as well, and my new clones for next (round 6) in 2 weeks are 10 pineapples. Love ittttt mayne!
 

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Awesome! I will give them a look, must be some good ish if your still growing it :)
I'm assuming you cloned them at one point? If so did they clone okay?
 

Someguy15

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Awesome! I will give them a look, must be some good ish if your still growing it :)
I'm assuming you cloned them at one point? If so did they clone okay?
I have kept mothers since my first round actually. I have redone the mother once with a new clone, but that's it. It clones awesome man! I have hit 100% success rate on roots on last 2 clonings and in under 14 days, although there always seems to be a dud in terms of growth. I would recommend taking 1 or 2 extra and then culling the weakest extras during your veg period.

For cloning I recommend a Mondo (or similar tall humid dome), a tray, a insert, and a 50 or 100pk of Root Riot cubes. If you have some Great White or similar mycorrhizae inoculate them with a few ml of that and maybe some liquid karma or superthrive mixed up and the roots really seem to explode! After that just mist them with plain water twice a day focusing keeping the dome wet, but not soaking the Root Riots. You can decrease the application rate as you near the end of the first week, just keep the humidity up in the dome. Then slowly open the vents to acclimate them to the dryer conditions around days 9-12.
 

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Thanks for the tips bro! I'm excited to get this girl going, it probably won't be for a while but when I do, I want to keep her going!!

I already made the mistake of not keeping my wonderwoman going and she was a GREAT strain! You should give her a try if you ever get a chance, I would love to see what you would do with her!! Btw, I checked in on the first link and that bud in your avatar is swole!! Your an inspriation to all of us :)

I use a very similar way to clone and you just gave me a couple ideas that I think I might have been missing.. Suprisingly my cloning rate has been pretty decent for just starting, it was rough at first though.. I've got 2 kandykush clones that are right around 14 days and I'm still not seeing roots which is wierd because I've have at least an 80% sucess rate with the rest of the clones so I'm not srue if its something I did or if its just the strain..

Now I'm going to be forced to take a few more just in case and as you know she just showed hairs.. Owell, Its worth it to me if even one roots!
 

#1Raiderfan420

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I hate when that happens. Mine did that the round before last when I put the screen on too early and low. Those buds look crazy fat for 5 weeksm man. Your buds always amaze me.
 

Someguy15

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I hate when that happens. Mine did that the round before last when I put the screen on too early and low. Those buds look crazy fat for 5 weeksm man. Your buds always amaze me.
thanks as always. For the scrog, I was thinking I would put it about 12-14" above the medium surface, is that a good place? (I'm doing 4 week veg on the clones, sticking them under the screen, and hoping they fill it in the 2 week stretch)
 

rzza

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looks great! contact woodsmantoker about scrog, i heard hes the scrog king. hes in michigan too right now. anyhow he will answerr your questions.

hows it stinkin in there?
 

Someguy15

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looks great! contact woodsmantoker about scrog, i heard hes the scrog king. hes in michigan too right now. anyhow he will answerr your questions.

hows it stinkin in there?
in the room? great! Outside of it? not really at all. My 9 month old Phresh 550 is still working wonders! Still have the loud ass fan noise in the bathroom, but eh, what you gonna do.

I'll have to look him up, don't think i've followed any of his threads.
 

rzza

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i was refering to inside the room ;)

oh yea he has the 'enter the scrog' thread, or something like that.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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thanks as always. For the scrog, I was thinking I would put it about 12-14" above the medium surface, is that a good place? (I'm doing 4 week veg on the clones, sticking them under the screen, and hoping they fill it in the 2 week stretch)
14" sounds good. If you are planning on doing a true scrog where you bend and weave the branches through the net as they grow, then I would but the screen during veg. You need to have plenty of space between the plants or you will run out of screen though. What I do when I have the space to do a scrog, I let them pop through the screen and bend them over and actually weave them through the screen. The idea is to have a wide enough screen to keep weaving through the stretch, so you'll have to decide when the best time to put the screen on depending on the space you have. What I do is use the screen to keep my canopy even and support the plants now. It isn't actually a scrog, more of a partial scrog. After my canopy is nice and full, I just let them go. If done right I get a screen of colas and everything below the screen is bare stem. I have had scrog growers tell me that my method is not considered a true scrog, because a true scrog has only buds above the screen without branching. Either way it is a "screen of green" but you will hear a lot of different opinions. The original reason for scrog used to be to spread a plant out when there is limited verticle space, but when growers discovered they could get more yeild per plant by spreading it out to have a flat top instead of a chistmas tree, it has become a widely used method for maximum yeilds. I have seen some amazing outdoor scrogs with up to 8'x8' screens that have amazing yeilds.
I just use the screen to get the even canopy and for support, so I put my screen on after the first week of flower.
 

Someguy15

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14" sounds good. If you are planning on doing a true scrog where you bend and weave the branches through the net as they grow, then I would but the screen during veg. You need to have plenty of space between the plants or you will run out of screen though. What I do when I have the space to do a scrog, I let them pop through the screen and bend them over and actually weave them through the screen. The idea is to have a wide enough screen to keep weaving through the stretch, so you'll have to decide when the best time to put the screen on depending on the space you have. What I do is use the screen to keep my canopy even and support the plants now. It isn't actually a scrog, more of a partial scrog. After my canopy is nice and full, I just let them go. If done right I get a screen of colas and everything below the screen is bare stem. I have had scrog growers tell me that my method is not considered a true scrog, because a true scrog has only buds above the screen without branching. Either way it is a "screen of green" but you will hear a lot of different opinions. The original reason for scrog used to be to spread a plant out when there is limited verticle space, but when growers discovered they could get more yeild per plant by spreading it out to have a flat top instead of a chistmas tree, it has become a widely used method for maximum yeilds. I have seen some amazing outdoor scrogs with up to 8'x8' screens that have amazing yeilds.
I just use the screen to get the even canopy and for support, so I put my screen on after the first week of flower.
Thanks for the tips and insight. 1 week left until harvest and the next flower.
 

rzza

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14" sounds good. If you are planning on doing a true scrog where you bend and weave the branches through the net as they grow, then I would but the screen during veg. You need to have plenty of space between the plants or you will run out of screen though. What I do when I have the space to do a scrog, I let them pop through the screen and bend them over and actually weave them through the screen. The idea is to have a wide enough screen to keep weaving through the stretch, so you'll have to decide when the best time to put the screen on depending on the space you have. What I do is use the screen to keep my canopy even and support the plants now. It isn't actually a scrog, more of a partial scrog. After my canopy is nice and full, I just let them go. If done right I get a screen of colas and everything below the screen is bare stem. I have had scrog growers tell me that my method is not considered a true scrog, because a true scrog has only buds above the screen without branching. Either way it is a "screen of green" but you will hear a lot of different opinions. The original reason for scrog used to be to spread a plant out when there is limited verticle space, but when growers discovered they could get more yeild per plant by spreading it out to have a flat top instead of a chistmas tree, it has become a widely used method for maximum yeilds. I have seen some amazing outdoor scrogs with up to 8'x8' screens that have amazing yeilds.
I just use the screen to get the even canopy and for support, so I put my screen on after the first week of flower.
its close to what i do but instead of a screen i use bamboo sticks, like 6 to 10 in each pot around the edges. i top them before flower and after switching flower and stretching occurs then i begin to tie each branch down to the bamboo this makes an even canopy and looks just like a scrog, it allows all the buds from the bottom (which are now even with colas and in the center part of plant) raise up and become 'tops'.
 

maniacal420

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its close to what i do but instead of a screen i use bamboo sticks, like 6 to 10 in each pot around the edges. i top them before flower and after switching flower and stretching occurs then i begin to tie each branch down to the bamboo this makes an even canopy and looks just like a scrog, it allows all the buds from the bottom (which are now even with colas and in the center part of plant) raise up and become 'tops'.
Not trying to be rude, but isn't that just a type of LST? The whole point of LSTing is to even the canopy and promote internal node growth. It's all trying for the same goal, just slightly different methods.:peace:
 

ZEN MASTER

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Def. enjoying the extra space, but missing my space bedroom haha. I have no where to store everything so that's a downside, but the plant's seem happy as usual. About the start of the 5th week and they are already falling over with buds.

Snapped some lights out shots for color, day 34. The LA's are finishing a little fast this time again, not sure what I did last round to improve them so much but no luck this time. Everything looks great except the one fucked up clone.
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oh my God, what have you been up to man? nice little sea of green you got there bro. big ups on the grow!


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 

Someguy15

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oh my God, what have you been up to man? nice little sea of green you got there bro. big ups on the grow!


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
wrappin up school, enjoying fall, and moving haha it's been good though, I'm going to try the scrog next round bc my colas all got top heavy and fell over :lol:

how about yourself, growing anything good rite now?
 

ZEN MASTER

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wrappin up school, enjoying fall, and moving haha it's been good though, I'm going to try the scrog next round bc my colas all got top heavy and fell over :lol:

how about yourself, growing anything good rite now?

well since we last talked i finally got my tent issues under control. but while that was getting under control i have clones and mothers that had grown out and either needed to be flowered or thrown out, and since the tent was in orderat that time i just put them all in flower at the same time. i kinda hated to do that because i usually do the perpetual thing, but everything was getting too tall. so i figured what the heck., so in about two weeks i'll have about 45 plants to chop down. its all good though, just hate the idea of triming all of them. probably take me the whole weekend. thats ok because after that is done i'm getting back on the perpetual track. already got my rotation started from clones in the clone cab to some babies ready to flower. so in two weeks i'll be back to the usual putting something out every two weeks. also got a Power Kush seed that has grown up. i let her get pretty tall then i topeed her and put tha t in some coco, then i took about four more clones off of her to make some mothers. and i kept the remaining plant as a mother for now, it was hard because it looked awesome, really. but i didnt because while those five clones are getting up to speed i'll be able to put at least 2-3 Power Kush clones in the every two weeks . so i may not enjoy that one plant now, but i will enjoy her a lot more later. and when the clones are big enough to cut from i might do a Power Kush grow. who knows? not me. but hey man like i said, "ooooooo-weeeeee that looks DANKALICIOUS".LOL.
i think you'll like using the screen. no stakes, no tying anything to anything, and the biggest one of all, NO WALKING INTO THE ROOM AND FINDING EIGHT OR NINE COLAS POINTING SOUTH, because youll be getting plenty of support from the screen. one thing though, you might notice that your main stem isnt as thick. well that's because the plant is letting the screen hold it up and support it. the up side is that all that energy that the plant would have had to use to hold itself up, and create thicker stalks is now able to be directed into bud formation. so win, win. well i'm out. be easy bro.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
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