Seed Choice

xtrapeppers

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I've been poking around the boards for the last week or two and decided I was going to start my first grow. It's going to be an indoor grow and I'm trying to decide between getting White Widow or Big Bud. I hear BIg BUd is easier to grow but that Widow is a better smoke. Anyone have any advice on which way I should go?


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Chronic Connoisseur

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go to homeopathyz.org

big bud is nice, but white widow does have a better smoke. but big bud has higher yield. and some white widow strains only have a thc lvl of like 10-12%..

i would go with some opium though, its too exotic to turn down.
 

xtrapeppers

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I was either going to order from Dr. or nirvana, Im more worried about what to get than who to get it from though
 

Chronic Connoisseur

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my favs to grow and smoke are

grapefruit
grape devil
opium
sweet tooth
master kush and kush strains

those arent too hard to grow..except some kush hyrbids.. just dont get blueberry.

just look at the fem. seeds on dr. and you'll find the perfect strain for you.
 

xtrapeppers

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I heard from someone that fem seeds are a bad way to go because a lot of them turn out to be hermaphrodites (probably spelled wrong). Is that true or should i just go with the fem?

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thefreshies22

Active Member
If your worried about hermies, make sure your seeds are greenhouse fem (you can get them from the dr). There is much evidence showing that greenhouse feminized do not turn hermie near as much as others.
 

MagusALL

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why narrowed down to these 2? how about serious seeds ak 47? or maybe greenhouse arjans haze. shits bangin
 

sleepytown

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go to homeopathyz.org

big bud is nice, but white widow does have a better smoke. but big bud has higher yield. and some white widow strains only have a thc lvl of like 10-12%..

i would go with some opium though, its too exotic to turn down.
I have been sort of sitting on this for a while, but I think this is a good time to point this out.

When it comes to advertised cannabinoid levels, which are commonly published on seedbank sites, I think you have to really take them with a grain of salt. Many breeders publish their cannabinoid levels, the most notable of which is Greenhouse Seed Co. White Widow is one of their flagship strains. They, being the original WW breeders, built a whole empire atop its reputation. They advertise it as being 12% THC / 1.4% CBD / 0.6% CBN. However, anyone who has smoked it knows that GHSC White Widow leaves little to be desired; even against 20% monster strains.

This always puzzled me, until I read Issue 3 of Soft Secrets, which you can download from their website. In it, there is an interview with Franco from Greenhouse. If you are not familiar with him, he is the "in-house breed-manager" of the company, as well as second in command and Arjan's right hand man. He betrays the truth of THC level advertising, when they quite innocently ask him about the company practice of publishing tested cannabinoid levels. I quote:

"SS: When you mention THC:CBD:CBN ratios[,] what do you mean?

Franco: We mean the THC, CBD and CBN content in the resin. For example, 23% THC means that 23% of the resin material is pure THC. Tests have been made using a mass chromatograph as well as a gas chromatograph."


So, Franco (I hope unintentionally) betrayed the fact that the THC numbers do not necessarily reflect the potency of the bud. They only reflect the potency of the resin. Therefore, how does this indicate the true quality of the finished bud. White widow, having 12% THC, looks terrible on paper; but does it have twice as much resin as another strain that boasts 19%? Does it have three times as much? Then, the Widow is a much better choice.

Conversely, the quarter ounce that I am smoking right now hardly has any visible resin; but it seems to be getting me much more stoned per bowl than the frosty bag I finished before it.

So as far as choosing a strain, I wouldn't trust the pretty pictures or the flashy numbers. The only way to find that perfect strain is from experience; or to research enough to be certain. It also never hurts to go with something tried and true.

But I have typed enough. Is anyone even reading this? I was shocked when I found it out. I hope someone else will find the information valuable. Don't trust those fast-talking breeders with their flashy numbers. I used to drool over those numbers. Now, I call shenanigans.

S-Town
 

iblazethatkush

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I have been sort of sitting on this for a while, but I think this is a good time to point this out.

When it comes to advertised cannabinoid levels, which are commonly published on seedbank sites, I think you have to really take them with a grain of salt. Many breeders publish their cannabinoid levels, the most notable of which is Greenhouse Seed Co. White Widow is one of their flagship strains. They, being the original WW breeders, built a whole empire atop its reputation. They advertise it as being 12% THC / 1.4% CBD / 0.6% CBN. However, anyone who has smoked it knows that GHSC White Widow leaves little to be desired; even against 20% monster strains.

This always puzzled me, until I read Issue 3 of Soft Secrets, which you can download from their website. In it, there is an interview with Franco from Greenhouse. If you are not familiar with him, he is the "in-house breed-manager" of the company, as well as second in command and Arjan's right hand man. He betrays the truth of THC level advertising, when they quite innocently ask him about the company practice of publishing tested cannabinoid levels. I quote:

"SS: When you mention THC:CBD:CBN ratios[,] what do you mean?

Franco: We mean the THC, CBD and CBN content in the resin. For example, 23% THC means that 23% of the resin material is pure THC. Tests have been made using a mass chromatograph as well as a gas chromatograph."


So, Franco (I hope unintentionally) betrayed the fact that the THC numbers do not necessarily reflect the potency of the bud. They only reflect the potency of the resin. Therefore, how does this indicate the true quality of the finished bud. White widow, having 12% THC, looks terrible on paper; but does it have twice as much resin as another strain that boasts 19%? Does it have three times as much? Then, the Widow is a much better choice.

Conversely, the quarter ounce that I am smoking right now hardly has any visible resin; but it seems to be getting me much more stoned per bowl than the frosty bag I finished before it.

So as far as choosing a strain, I wouldn't trust the pretty pictures or the flashy numbers. The only way to find that perfect strain is from experience; or to research enough to be certain. It also never hurts to go with something tried and true.

But I have typed enough. Is anyone even reading this? I was shocked when I found it out. I hope someone else will find the information valuable. Don't trust those fast-talking breeders with their flashy numbers. I used to drool over those numbers. Now, I call shenanigans.

S-Town
Awesome post, Sleepytown. That's some great info. That deserves some +rep.
 

morphus657

Active Member
ya im reading (sleepy ) so then what whould be the best way to test thc in weed when it is dryed ?? and in your experiance what whould u say is the best indoor yeilding plant
 

sleepytown

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ya im reading (sleepy ) so then what whould be the best way to test thc in weed when it is dryed ?? and in your experiance what whould u say is the best indoor yeilding plant
As far as testing THC, I don't know. I know you can get those cannalyze kits to test it at home. If you took the time to seriously keep it consistent (weight of bud sample and same amount of solution etc.), you could probably keep a pretty good record of your own. The numbers published by seedbanks, as I stated earlier, are questionable at best.

As far as yields, there are a lot of strains that put of great ones. Just look around, and pay attention to advertised SOG quotes from seedbanks, which may or may not be legitimite. They will usually be advertised by g/m2. Do some research, and try to make the best choice. Worst case, if you make the wrong decision, you will still have a great deal of dank buds. Good luck!

S-Town
 
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