Im currently looking for patients

[rzza]

but i would like to have some stored in a vase for a later date. like storing seeds. so im not trying to grow it. their just sitting in water, in the veg room. ive always done this and they always root for me like a month later....

 

[rowlman]

okay, you can do that then...lol.
That makes sense...if they are all in a vase together. I got sick of keeping my mother plant...now I just clone from the clones.
This probable won't work with all stains,but it's working here so far.

 

[ganjaluvr]

ok so i have two spots i can fill and now i have a new flower room and its so amazing i think its a great time to start my search to fill these spots.
what im offering is ounces for $200 with a limit of three per month. if for some reason i have a strain that is less than perfect i will be more than happy to offer it for even less, perhaps $100 per ounce. i am set up on a perpetual system and the medicine will flow consistently along with edibles and tinctures (made with buds and trimmings). my next crop to be harvested just went into the flower room and wont be ready for 55 days but that starts the perpetual and ill harvest every 2 weeks from then on.
im in oakland county but i tavel alot between macomb and oakland and i have no problem bringing it to you as often as youd like.
feel free to ask questions, you can also pm me if you prefer.

Man, if only I lived in Oakland.. I would definately do business with you man. I would have to live there for a full year though. I think if you move to a legal state.. you have to live there (wait) a full year before you can apply for a MJ card. I could be wrong... but that's what I've heard.

We could split the distance in half if you were willing! I wouldn't have any problem at all do that.. no problem at all. I would even drive 75% of the trip.. if you were maybe willing to drive the remaining 25%???

Man.. yeah I would def. be interested.

Let me know buddy!

peace..

 

[kneecapman]

I'm taking on Patients. I will give you 3 oz free per month. I can't deliver, and I am located in the Metro Detroit Area. Hit me with a PM...

 

[Kruzty]

but then you go to our statute and find this where the last sentense allows for stalks which may be a clone?





Not when ya put it in say a rockwool cube, soil or say a cup of water. If it's potted or looks to be made into a plant then they will count it as your plant count with or without roots. Ya may win the battle in the courts but you'll be in the courts anyways. Not a spot I want to be in so I count them all. I dont grow my max anyways due to the fed laws so always have plenty of room for my babies. Count them all my friends as they will.We had to bail one of our club members out of jail due to being 4 unrooted plants over. He pled the case as he could not pay for fighting it all the ways thru the courts. Lawyers are not cheap as you all know and if your counties judges rule them as plants then your off to the higher court and more money. I just avoid all that crap and stay under count so my clones dont matter....
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[Kruzty]

Hey kneecapman or what ever ya call yer self. Try posting your ad in your own thread. What a ass...................

Sorry raz but he pissed me off with his bs ad in your thread....

what a ass..................

 

[bigv1976]

Man, if only I lived in Oakland.. I would definately do business with you man. I would have to live there for a full year though. I think if you move to a legal state.. you have to live there (wait) a full year before you can apply for a MJ card. I could be wrong... but that's what I've heard.

We could split the distance in half if you were willing! I wouldn't have any problem at all do that.. no problem at all. I would even drive 75% of the trip.. if you were maybe willing to drive the remaining 25%???


Man.. yeah I would def. be interested.

Let me know buddy!

peace..

Not positive but I have been researching a few states and have yet to read a time of residence restriction.

 

[rzza]

but then you go to our statute and find this where the last sentense allows for stalks which may be a clone?

Not when ya put it in say a rockwool cube, soil or say a cup of water. If it's potted or looks to be made into a plant then they will count it as your plant count with or without roots. Ya may win the battle in the courts but you'll be in the courts anyways. Not a spot I want to be in so I count them all. I dont grow my max anyways due to the fed laws so always have plenty of room for my babies. Count them all my friends as they will.We had to bail one of our club members out of jail due to being 4 unrooted plants over. He pled the case as he could not pay for fighting it all the ways thru the courts. Lawyers are not cheap as you all know and if your counties judges rule them as plants then your off to the higher court and more money. I just avoid all that crap and stay under count so my clones dont matter....
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yea i pretty much agree 100% here. i do think it would win in a battle in court but the prob is, ya gotta then go to court LOL

Hey kneecapman or what ever ya call yer self. Try posting your ad in your own thread. What a ass...................

Sorry raz but he pissed me off with his bs ad in your thread....

what a ass..................

yea seriously.... who is this clown?

Not positive but I have been researching a few states and have yet to read a time of residence restriction.

same here man, i think if you have a permanent residence here your all good

 

[bigv1976]

Yeah all I have seen is proof of residence which can be a light bill.

 

[rzza]

yup exactly.

 

[Kruzty]

Some states like Montana make ya wait before your a rez. At least they did for hunting and fishing. Prolly the same with this there too. Here ya dont have to wait no longer then changing your drivers or ID over to Michigan. They make ya show something from the mail or say a bill here but thats it. No wait at all................

 

[Keefers26]

I am looking for a quality caregiver here in Michigan, I live in Shelby Township. So far it's been very difficult finding decent meds. If there are any caregivers that are up to the challenge, please contact me. I am even willing to travel a ways just to be able to get the best meds. Any help would be so very appreciated.
Thank you.

 

[jordanlady]

Hi
I'm a primary caregiver as I see that you are?
I'm new at it, so would like to ask you a question other then what you have written.
Do you keep bookwork up on being a primary caregiver? Report to the IRS and make it a business? Do you have to get an EIN #?
I would really appreciate your advice and your knowledge on being a Primary Caregiver.

 

[rzza]

ill be honest, im quite dimwitted in that aspect. i was concidering it and planned on talking to an attorney about it coming in january. i wish i could say more about it. i can say this however, im hoping my attorney says its not neccessary and suggests to not do it

 

[guy incognito]

ill be honest, im quite dimwitted in that aspect. i was concidering it and planned on talking to an attorney about it coming in january. i wish i could say more about it. i can say this however, im hoping my attorney says its not neccessary and suggests to not do it

I can't imagine how you COULD do it. You CAN NOT SELL marijuana. You may only get "compensation" from your patients, and that sale does not constitute the sale of an illegal substance.

333.26424 Qualifying patient or primary caregiver; arrest, prosecution, or penalty prohibited; conditions; presumption; compensation; physician subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty prohibited; marihuana paraphernalia; person in presence or vicinity to medical use of marihuana; registry identification issued outside of department; sale of marihuana as felony; penalty.

4. Protections for the Medical Use of Marihuana. 4. Protections for the Medical Use of Marihuana.
Sec. 4. (a) A qualifying patient who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act, provided that the qualifying patient possesses an amount of marihuana that does not exceed 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana, and, if the qualifying patient has not specified that a primary caregiver will be allowed under state law to cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an enclosed, locked facility. Any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and unusable roots shall also be allowed under state law and shall not be included in this amount.
(b) A primary caregiver who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for assisting a qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process with the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act, provided that the primary caregiver possesses an amount of marihuana that does not exceed:
(1) 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana for each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process; and
(2) for each registered qualifying patient who has specified that the primary caregiver will be allowed under state law to cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an enclosed, locked facility; and
(3) any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and unusable roots.
(c) A person shall not be denied custody or visitation of a minor for acting in accordance with this act, unless the person's behavior is such that it creates an unreasonable danger to the minor that can be clearly articulated and substantiated.
(d) There shall be a presumption that a qualifying patient or primary caregiver is engaged in the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act if the qualifying patient or primary caregiver:
(1) is in possession of a registry identification card; and
(2) is in possession of an amount of marihuana that does not exceed the amount allowed under this act. The presumption may be rebutted by evidence that conduct related to marihuana was not for the purpose of alleviating the qualifying patient's debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition, in accordance with this act.
(e) A registered primary caregiver may receive compensation for costs associated with assisting a registered qualifying patient in the medical use of marihuana. Any such compensation shall not constitute the sale of controlled substances.
(f) A physician shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by the Michigan board of medicine, the Michigan board of osteopathic medicine and surgery, or any other business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, solely for providing written certifications, in the course of a bona fide physician-patient relationship and after the physician has completed a full assessment of the qualifying patient's medical history, or for otherwise stating that, in the physician's professional opinion, a patient is likely to receive therapeutic or palliative benefit from the medical use of marihuana to treat or alleviate the patient's serious or debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the serious or debilitating medical condition, provided that nothing shall prevent a professional licensing board from sanctioning a physician for failing to properly evaluate a patient's medical condition or otherwise violating the standard of care for evaluating medical conditions.
(g) A person shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for providing a registered qualifying patient or a registered primary caregiver with marihuana paraphernalia for purposes of a qualifying patient's medical use of marihuana.
(h) Any marihuana, marihuana paraphernalia, or licit property that is possessed, owned, or used in connection with the medical use of marihuana, as allowed under this act, or acts incidental to such use, shall not be seized or forfeited.
(i) A person shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, solely for being in the presence or vicinity of the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act, or for assisting a registered qualifying patient with using or administering marihuana.
(j) A registry identification card, or its equivalent, that is issued under the laws of another state, district, territory, commonwealth, or insular possession of the United States that allows the medical use of marihuana by a visiting qualifying patient, or to allow a person to assist with a visiting qualifying patient's medical use of marihuana, shall have the same force and effect as a registry identification card issued by the department.
(k) Any registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver who sells marihuana to someone who is not allowed to use marihuana for medical purposes under this act shall have his or her registry identification card revoked and is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both, in addition to any other penalties for the distribution of marihuana.

Therefore I don't see how it's possible. If you try to act as a legitimate business and pay taxes on it you are admitting that you are just selling it for profit.

 

[rowlman]

i think some people want to be on the books...and getting compensated for an elec. bill or nutes is not really a profit...i like to look at it as more of a donation to the grow
but i don't think anyone can be required to claim this money yet,because we are not selling anything...i haven't spoken with him in a while,but i have a friend that runs a small non-profit company and he recieves donations and does have to file something every year,so maybe it will be something similar to that in the future for us...idk...just my 2 cents worth

 

[rzza]

You may only get "compensation" from your patients, and that sale does not constitute the sale of an illegal substance.

but it still constitutes a sale. im not sure either way i just know ill be looking into it come january.

 

[guy incognito]

But under the spirit of the law you aren't supposed to be in it for profit either. If you are making large enough profits that paying taxes is a concern for you or the IRS then I think you are being "compensated" too well.

The same way I don't have to claim the rent my roommate pays me. It's a shared living expense; it's not technically "income" to me. Just as compensation to help pay your lights, nutes, soil, etc isn't really income.

 

[stumps]

Income is the consumption and savings opportunity gained by an entity within a specified time frame, which is generally expressed in monetary terms.[1] However, for households and individuals, "income is the sum of all the wages, salaries, profits, interests payments, rents and other forms of earnings received... in a given period of time."[2] For firms, income generally refers to net-profit: what remains of revenue after expenses have been subtracted.[3] In the field of public economics, it may refer to the accumulation of both monetary and non-monetary consumption ability, the former being used as a proxy for total income.

 

[rzza]

But under the spirit of the law you aren't supposed to be in it for profit either. If you are making large enough profits that paying taxes is a concern for you or the IRS then I think you are being "compensated" too well.

The same way I don't have to claim the rent my roommate pays me. It's a shared living expense; it's not technically "income" to me. Just as compensation to help pay your lights, nutes, soil, etc isn't really income.

so what if a caregiver fills up the five slots and is running a 4 room setup to keep the patients stocked and it consumes a fulll work schedule and costs alot of money and that caregiver cant work because THIS IS HIS JOB. now do i have to file? you think you know something but your far from knowlegable on the subject.

what do you mean the spirit of the law? can you show me that in writing?