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ropeadope69
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WWMS came through for me too!!
dankforall
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I got mine this week as well. Im glad things are back to normal. They are awesome!!
xbravoz
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The only reason I took a chance and ordered my seeds is due to reading posts about people not getting ripped off....how quick delivery was...etc........otherwise i would not have made my purchase.
kindprincess
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no, you would have f2's.well jeez kp where can I sign up for that
so if i take say a white widow male and female from the original breader bank and creat seeds, will those seeds be white widow? same as the ones i buy from greenhouse seed bank?
wwxww = ww f2, 25% mother phenos, 25% father phenos, 50% will be white widdow.
kp
stickyicky77
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I thought you could get femm seeds with Hermie pollen unless i misunderstood the threads that i read.
kindprincess
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you misunderstood the threads that you read, or read n00b bs threads.
hermies make hermies. dp has the best process imo, they use a fully reversed male (male that goes female in flower, full reversal) to pollenate females to get their fem seeds.
others use acid to stress a stable female into producing male flowers, then those are harvested, dried, and applied to another female that was not exposed to treatment, and is fully stable and female.
leave fem beans to pros, and DO NOT BREED HERMIES!!!!!!!
kp
dankforall
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Kp I like the new pic. MTF must really been the shit.. you and fdd love it so much. Keep up all of your awesome work and death to mites!!
kindprincess
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thunderfuck fits perfectly. there can be no other name for this strain
stickyicky77
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They are just for me anyway and i am interested in coming up with a strain for myself but i plan to do more research before i try something like that. I plan to just pollinate some buds of each strain for seeds and then clone those and then cross the clones and start the process over. At some point i might try to stress a female to try to get femm seeds but i will definitely do my homework and do it right or not at all. If i do something i want it to be a success.
GoodFriend
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gibberillic acid and colloidial silver are two popular agents used for reversing...
another method is... some fem plants will pop some nanners way way late in flower (much later than you'd be harvesting them at...) and these male flowers have the pollen collected from them and seeds another cut of the same plant earlier on in flower for seed production
i like having boys and girls though... lets me get another generation to grow...
kindprincess
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light poisoning works too. changing the lighting times in flower, or going fully veg from flower (this works well to reverse males)....
imo, natural breeding is the ONLY way to go. in my experience natural seeds put out more true females than fem seeds, as you don't have as much risk of hermies. ie, you do ten normies and ten fems. of those you get 14 females, 7 of each.
the fem females go hermie, you lose three of seven, while the normies stay true blue
normies win
natmoon
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The best way to make naturally female seeds in my opinion is to light stress normally stable plants whilst they are 4-5 weeks into flower.
Do this with already stable non hermie strains to produce good female seeds.
You do this by switching the light cycle to veg and then back to flowering week after week alternating until the plant herms big styley and then just put the fans on full blast.
Once your happy that you have pollinated most of the pistils just switch it back to 12/12.
This is only a viable option for home growers though as it can take up to 6 weeks to stress a stable strain into producing a good amount of pollen and then another 4-6-8-10 weeks of 12/12 to finish them off depending on the variety
Do this with already stable non hermie strains to produce good female seeds.
You do this by switching the light cycle to veg and then back to flowering week after week alternating until the plant herms big styley and then just put the fans on full blast.
Once your happy that you have pollinated most of the pistils just switch it back to 12/12.
This is only a viable option for home growers though as it can take up to 6 weeks to stress a stable strain into producing a good amount of pollen and then another 4-6-8-10 weeks of 12/12 to finish them off depending on the variety
pandabear
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kindprincess
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lol!
you can't get 150% offspring babe
ie, you make a cross; godbudxdreamweaver, and call it dreamgoddess.
breed dg to dg and you get f2's.
you will have 25% godbud, 25% dreamweaver, and 50% dreamgoddess in the offspring.
pandabear
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ok i get it 25% + 25% + 50% = 100%
but im confused cuz if 50% is white widow right, and 25% is father phenos and 25% mother phenos, but arnt the mother and fathers already white widow? like i use a man white widow and a female ww plant to make the seeds seems logical i guess i should look up what pheno means
brb
natmoon
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Its an average amount of difference to same ratios as the parents and the children.
When you breed you need to know what the original traits were and then look for the plants that display obviously different or great mixes of the 2 parents and then you only rebreed those 2 types.
In other words a lot of the seed will be exactly the same as the mother or the father and if your lucky you will get 50% of the seeds you harvest to be either a complete cross breed or displaying enough difference from the original parents to carry on working with.
When you breed you need to know what the original traits were and then look for the plants that display obviously different or great mixes of the 2 parents and then you only rebreed those 2 types.
In other words a lot of the seed will be exactly the same as the mother or the father and if your lucky you will get 50% of the seeds you harvest to be either a complete cross breed or displaying enough difference from the original parents to carry on working with.
kindprincess
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key words to look for are MENDEL, PHENOTYPE, INBREEDING.ok i get it 25% + 25% + 50% = 100%
but im confused cuz if 50% is white widow right, and 25% is father phenos and 25% mother phenos, but arnt the mother and fathers already white widow? like i use a man white widow and a female ww plant to make the seeds seems logical i guess i should look up what pheno means
brb
i can't remember what went into ww, but it has parents, just like any other hybrid. the rules would apply, and you would see phenos that look like those parents.
kindprincess
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reps plusIts an average amount of difference to same ratios as the parents and the children.
When you breed you need to know what the original traits were and then look for the plants that display obviously different or great mixes of the 2 parents and then you only rebreed those 2 types.
In other words a lot of the seed will be exactly the same as the mother or the father and if your lucky you will get 50% of the seeds you harvest to be either a complete cross breed or displaying enough difference from the original parents to carry on working with.
natmoon
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Thanks i certainly need some lolreps plus
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