Agent's 2nd Organic Grow- Pineapple Chunk, LSD, Euforia 200wCFL/600HPS

Grumpy Old Dreamer

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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Subbed to your grow -

I have both Pineapple Chunk and LSD seeds waiting to be planted - I only grow one plant at a time and have a Red Dragon growing.
Not sure which I will grow next, but I will plant it at least a month before the RD finishes.
 
Agent Provocateur

Agent Provocateur

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Grumpy Old Dreamer said:
Subbed to your grow -

I have both Pineapple Chunk and LSD seeds waiting to be planted - I only grow one plant at a time and have a Red Dragon growing.
Not sure which I will grow next, but I will plant it at least a month before the RD finishes.
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Cool, Pineapple chunk and LSD seem to be good choices, hope my amateurism sees me through to the end ok lol, anyways welcome :D
 
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Hemlock

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Agent Provocateur said:
I add the Vinegar to plain water not with nutes and get that right first before adding anything else, so i have a resevoir of plain water that sits at the side. I only add nutes to what i scoop out of the resevoir and feed the plants per 1 ltr jug at a time. So when i recheck the resevoir ( that i treated only with vinegar) the next day its back up as if nothing was in there at all ! :( So i read some info about using Vinegar and i've been informed that vinegar is unstable with regards to changing pH & only works as a temporary ph adjustment. I guess this is why it keeps going back up, so if it is doing that in the res then i guess its a similar story in the soil? Is there any any other more stable ph adjustor i could use? Lemon juice- would that be any better? Or is there an organic one on the market? I really would like to stay totally organic if possible :D

ALLRIGHTTT on the light!!!
I forgot you wanna be organic..HMMMM..I use GH Up and Down..HMMMM well I gotta think on that..Let ya know what I find out.............




What you doing tonight? Agent....
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Agent Provocateur

Agent Provocateur

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Seriously tho, i've been a bit overzealous on the feeding i think ( not that its been that much really) or possibly i've spashed some nute solution on the leaves??? ANyway i have burnt them pretty bad, but regardless of that they are still throwing out new growth. I've checked the run off and its 7.2- 7.5 DESPITE me feeding around the 6.5 mark:( SOD the organic pH, time to get out the industrial strength stuff me thinks, i really cba with messing around with pH otherwise i may end up with feck all-Organic or not :D

Unless anyones got any ideas?

Agent xx

ill post some pics later:D


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flowering one week since switch- no signs of sex.....................yet.



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the burnt pics are mostly confined to one plant and one well bwhind seedling, also concerned by the colour of new growth of plant at far right hand corner- looks kinda lime green to me but the lights may be making it look worse,

comments , advice etc welcome:)
 
Agent Provocateur

Agent Provocateur

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Ok so progress is a bit slow here lol. I've decided that i cant be arsed to keep strictly to organics with regard to pH. The instability of vinegar is what i think has contributed to a few problems so i've got some industrial strength stuff, that does exactly what it says on the tin- must admit i dont fancy trying it out on my skin tho- from what a few drops do to my water i imagine i wouldnt have much skin left! Anyways, i have a 2nd confirmed female -a Pineapple chunk- yay- go me :P However the others are being a bit slow off the mark- i forgive the retarded seedlings in the middle but the others i would have thought shud be showing their colours by now?

Heres some pics first is Euforia- first to show then the pineapple chunk- anyone care to advise me on why the pc is throwing off lime green new growth- im feeding it like the others so im confused as to why this one is pale.?????

Comments welcome

Agent xxx

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Hemlock

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Right well IMO I don't think you can keep the small one on the same amount or schedule of watering, judging from the pics looks like to much watering, unless you took the pic within a hour of the light coming on and they raised up later in their day..Hell let them dry out till they reach for the light. Its hard I know you wanna help them, I fell in the same trap for a year till I figured it out. Now my plants are in two gallon grow bags so I only water twice a week for 30 mins or so, me mix is 60%perlite, 10% hydron pellets, 30% coco the coco is the reason I don't have to water. I goona go down take some pic and post here I'll be right back...
What you doin tonight Agent????????????? Think I might like to do it with ya....
OK the small plant in Veg has been 3 times this week with two quarts/liters of 400 ppm water PH at 5.9 to 6

the bloom plants got watered twice a week for 30 mins each water sessions. The way I do it is, I take a bag of my mix dry and lifted it up to feel the weight, then I ran water thru and felt the weight I watered it for 30 min and set it under the lights till it got as dry as it was when it was dry. So that how I do it now. if they feel heavy and they ain't reachin no water. This bllom plat ain't really reachin cause they been rinsing for a week, but it still looks like it reachin
Good Luck
Lookin at pics again looks like the ones that are on the edges look good maybe raise the light till they start reaching
 

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slowergrower

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hi agent subbed... ive just started my 4th grow also organic and this time im doing LSDs for the second time,and for the first time pineapple chunk, red diesel, blue cheese (all barneys farm), G13 blueberry gum , and paradise wappa (was a toss up between that and G13 pineapple express)...will be great seein what results you get from your pineapple chunk :-) last time i grew LSDs i fucked them up and let them stretch to over a metre but still got on average 3 oz per plant and that was with a pest problem and had to bend and tie them down aswell lol
 
Agent Provocateur

Agent Provocateur

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Hemlock said:
Right well IMO I don't think you can keep the small one on the same amount or schedule of watering, judging from the pics looks like to much watering, unless you took the pic within a hour of the light coming on and they raised up later in their day..Hell let them dry out till they reach for the light. Its hard I know you wanna help them, I fell in the same trap for a year till I figured it out. Now my plants are in two gallon grow bags so I only water twice a week for 30 mins or so, me mix is 60%perlite, 10% hydron pellets, 30% coco the coco is the reason I don't have to water. I goona go down take some pic and post here I'll be right back...
What you doin tonight Agent????????????? Think I might like to do it with ya....
OK the small plant in Veg has been 3 times this week with two quarts/liters of 400 ppm water PH at 5.9 to 6


Yeh i should have clarifyed a bit more- i meant im feeding it the same as the others with regards to the other same size plants. The seedlings are so far behind i actually think they are going backwards so they get less than half of what the others get. Feeding Shedule for the large plants is 2ml Bloom 1 ml Grow 2-3 mls molasses ph'd to 6.2 The seedlings get 1 ml grow with 1ml bloom (every second feeding) and they all get watered when it feels dry a couple of inches under the top- or when the compost 'cracks' with dryness.This is usually 3 days plus so on average i water them no more than twice a week. One seedling looks overwatered, this maybe from when i flushed em after burning last week as the runoff was 7.5- it hasnt changed in appearence since, and it has dried out completely ( both seedlings are in smaller pots -so easier to tell).

Tell me more about this '30 min' thing as i just chuck 1 ltr' worth of mixed nutes and water in the pot and thats sufficient to just see a small amount drain out the bottom- is that wrong? basically i just see that and stop- obviously half that for the smaller pot seedlings.

the bloom plants got watered twice a week for 30 mins each water sessions. The way I do it is, I take a bag of my mix dry and lifted it up to feel the weight, then I ran water thru and felt the weight I watered it for 30 min and set it under the lights till it got as dry as it was when it was dry. So that how I do it now. if they feel heavy and they ain't reachin no water. This bllom plat ain't really reachin cause they been rinsing for a week, but it still looks like it reachin
Good Luck
Lookin at pics again looks like the ones that are on the edges look good maybe raise the light till they start reaching
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I should of clarifyed a bit better - what i meant is feeding the same as the other main plants- the small plants do get half the amount. Currently the big plants get 2 ml bloom, 1 ml grow and a few mls of molasses in 1 ltr of ph'd water ( ph is 6.2 after nutes). seedlings get 1 ml grow 1 ml bloom and no molasses- they dont seem to be growing very well tbh. i water twice a week when the soil is dry to a few inches, then water a litre ( 500ml for seedlings each). Tell me more about why 30 mins as 1 litre is enough to start draining a litttle out of the bottom. The one seedling looks overwatered- this is since last week when i burnt them so flushed with weak solution as my runoff was 7.5- i havent watered it since and its bone dry so dont know why it hasnt picked up. The pineapple chunk ( back right) is still light green, the other in front of it is still ok. As too are the LSD front left and euforia- back left.

Thanks

Agent xx

Edit; oops i thought i had lost my response but it seems it lodged it amongst your original post- only realised when i wrote it out again lol- duh what a blonde! :P
 
Agent Provocateur

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slowergrower said:
hi agent subbed... ive just started my 4th grow also organic and this time im doing LSDs for the second time,and for the first time pineapple chunk, red diesel, blue cheese (all barneys farm), G13 blueberry gum , and paradise wappa (was a toss up between that and G13 pineapple express)...will be great seein what results you get from your pineapple chunk :-) last time i grew LSDs i fucked them up and let them stretch to over a metre but still got on average 3 oz per plant and that was with a pest problem and had to bend and tie them down aswell lol
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Cool, Did your plants take an age to show sex, only one PC and the Euforia have shown so far- the LSD and other PC havent shown anything yet and ill be 2 weeks since switch tomorrow. I,ve tied all the big plants down a bit with LST, but unsure if i should continue with it in flowering stage. hopefully the 7ft box will be enough height to take into account final grow height anyway ( heres hoping)

Welcome to amateurville anyways lol :D
 
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slowergrower

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Agent Provocateur said:
Cool, Did your plants take an age to show sex, only one PC and the Euforia have shown so far- the LSD and other PC havent shown anything yet and ill be 2 weeks since switch tomorrow. I,ve tied all the big plants down a bit with LST, but unsure if i should continue with it in flowering stage. hopefully the 7ft box will be enough height to take into account final grow height anyway ( heres hoping)

Welcome to amateurville anyways lol :D
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if i remember rightly they started to show sex after 3 weeks of 12/12 but i had only had them vegging from seed for 21 days....i had to LST them through out the whole grow but like i said that was partly my fault because of the stretching and because i had a bloody small grow tent lol LSDs are supposed to only get to 65/75cm max mine got to 125cm but my light was strapped to the top of the tent...learnt from my mistake on that one lol atleast with this grow ive got a proper size tent this time....im sure if you keep the light as close as possible they wont stretch too much but im keepin my fingers crossed for you on what could be a very tasty grow :) its also good to have a grow journal from someone who is on the right side of the pond if ya know what i mean lol
 
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slowergrower

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once i start my journal i will let ya know :D

but in the meen time if ya got any questions feel free to ask away and i will answer them as best as i can
 
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Hemlock

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Agent Provocateur said:
I should of clarifyed a bit better - what i meant is feeding the same as the other main plants- the small plants do get half the amount. Currently the big plants get 2 ml bloom, 1 ml grow and a few mls of molasses in 1 ltr of ph'd water ( ph is 6.2 after nutes). seedlings get 1 ml grow 1 ml bloom and no molasses- they dont seem to be growing very well tbh. i water twice a week when the soil is dry to a few inches, then water a litre ( 500ml for seedlings each). Tell me more about why 30 mins as 1 litre is enough to start draining a litttle out of the bottom. The one seedling looks overwatered- this is since last week when i burnt them so flushed with weak solution as my runoff was 7.5- i havent watered it since and its bone dry so dont know why it hasnt picked up. The pineapple chunk ( back right) is still light green, the other in front of it is still ok. As too are the LSD front left and euforia- back left.

Thanks

Agent xx

Edit; oops i thought i had lost my response but it seems it lodged it amongst your original post- only realised when i wrote it out again lol- duh what a blonde! :P
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OK, I do 30 Mins because if the runoff is 7.5 on the last watering I want to bring it down,,, so 30 mins of watering with water at say 6.0 will drop the runoff to say 7. follow me here. flush all the bad shit out when you water. at 7.5 runoff the plant is probably locking out some nutes....need to get your run off to drop to say 6.0-6.5. Not higher than 6.5...Maybe raise the light a bit till they get back reachin...IMO

you didn't answer my question...LOL..I could be right down the street from ya, you never know about me...Have boots oh and rain coat will travel
 
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