clone from a clone?
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NothinButTheBest
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they have a mother and take multiple clones at a time... you can also clone a clone with very little to no difference.. i have a 4th gen clone finishing up now..
Brimi
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Yeah - i've read about that. In my experience i couldn't tell any difference after growing mother plants for years. I''ve had the same pheno plant grown for 7-8 years without any sign of weakness. Don't know, but would like to hear from somebody who has tested this too ;O)
bird mcbride
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The main chute is usually used to make cloned mothers as this chute is the most active part of the plant. We try to keep this main vine thing going from one mom to the next. That's not always possible so we choose clones that do extremely well in rooting to be mothers as well. Lower branches provide less vibrant growth. I clone off clones if I'm short on moms. I have never witnessed genetic f*ck ups because of cloning. The plant produces the same everytime. I have never witnessed a female kept in green die or change in any way. I can make them look odd by using different spectrums of light on them but I'm not into that anymore, so if you stick with normal shit your moms will outlive you.
reefcouple
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Well I used that technique for about 2 years on a couple different strains and I can tell you by experience that yes the DNA indeed does break down considerably.. Best to have a mother and clone from her...
growin miguel
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ive got a 3rd gen clone from one of my friends gardens and compared to my month old i see no difference between them. but i always wondered that too
bird mcbride
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If this is possible. It doesn't hurt to take clones off your clones to fill your beds until your moms get going. A mother plant should be at least one year old to be used for production cloning. The reason for this is because an immature plant is hollow in the middle. I have even taken clones from seedlings just to get enough plants when starting an op. You could always wait a year or so to start but I haven't time for idealistic thinking so I do what I know will work.
reefcouple
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I agree, and you could probably use this technique with good results for awhile, and i'm sure alot depends on the health and dna of the strain.. My ICE strain lasted for about 2 years until it turned to crap...
Grumpy Old Dreamer
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I'm not sure exactly how the "DNA", which is the genes of the plant, can break down.
Unless the clone was a spontaneous mutation, the clones should be genetically identical to the parent.
Trachiophyte
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reefcouple,
Would you please elaborate your experience that the DNA does break down after taking multiple generations of cuttings? Do you mean your plants in your growing conditions are in some way changing into different strains?
Have you done any comprehensive DNA work with Cannabis that you could share with this group?
reefcouple
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comprehensive, no..
But i'll share an experience.
I was growing ICE from seed purchased through www.marijuana-seeds.nl (purchased 2 years ago), I planted all 10 seeds and took two clones from each plant (cant remember the total that sprouted, this is general practice for me). I mothered the first female clone that I liked the best. cloned many times all went great from the mother. I lost the mother after about a year (long story). from that point on I just kept cloning from clones and after a year of doing this the plant(s) looked and smoked like crap, even took on a completely different look..
Same thing happened about 5 years ago with a NL strain I was growing, granted that time I didnt have a mother, i just kept cloning from clones. The plant just "broke down" or "weakened", took on a very different look, smoked like crap etc.
From those two experiences I've learned to mother thy mother
and no problems since.Best of luck tho, and happy farming...
Brimi
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Yeah - i don't think that DNA will break down like that in a living plant and i believe that whatever/wherever you take the clone the DNA will still be 100% the same. If that's not true i feel bad for a lot of people who could have definitely be wrongfully accused of crimes they did not do ;O)). A lot of other factors could cause that to your plant. The plant's inner chemistry or something could change but it's not DNA - just what i think.comprehensive, no..
But i'll share an experience.
I was growing ICE from seed purchased through www.marijuana-seeds.nl (purchased 2 years ago), I planted all 10 seeds and took two clones from each plant (cant remember the total that sprouted, this is general practice for me). I mothered the first female clone that I liked the best. cloned many times all went great from the mother. I lost the mother after about a year (long story). from that point on I just kept cloning from clones and after a year of doing this the plant(s) looked and smoked like crap, even took on a completely different look..
Same thing happened about 5 years ago with a NL strain I was growing, granted that time I didnt have a mother, i just kept cloning from clones. The plant just "broke down" or "weakened", took on a very different look, smoked like crap etc.
From those two experiences I've learned to mother thy mother
Best of luck tho, and happy farming...
reefcouple
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You could very well be right that clones from clones is ok and that what I experienced was a fluke or some other issue, i'm no botanist so I cant say one way or the other but I do keep mothers now, i like the idea of having the best femle of the lot and am convinced that cloning from clones will eventually "break down"
Anyhow, best of luck and happy farming