Cloning I suck.

GanjaGood!

GanjaGood!

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Filthy Fletch - "The first day you dont even have to open the dome. The next day open it for about 5 minutes respray the clones lightly dont over spray keep the tray wet and just moist. Do this for a total of about 5-10 days after day 4 open the lid for about 10 minutes a day to exchange the air.I usually have roots poppin through in 3-5 days except with blueberry for some reason they take 14 or more days to root for me."

Do you keep the dome on for the full 5-10 days? With just the 10 minutes open?

It seems like the FAQs I have been reading that say take off dome after 3 days...and that does not work for me...even after 4 days they dry up and crash...can save 20-40% but that is a big loss...

Here is what I am using:
- Rockwool cubes soaked in DutchMaster A.P.S.
- Olivia's cloning gel (maybe I'll try powder)
- Heating pad on 10 minutes off 10 minutes (tray raised 1/4 inc off pad)
- 50w flourescent
- A.P.S. Foliar with Penetrator (once a day)

Previously I was successful with just water and no heating pad, but over past month that has not worked. Everything has been looking beautiful until I take the dome off!!! Tried three days (too soon) four days (too soon)...

Do you thing I just need to leave the dome on longer??? So it is probably taking the dome off to early, especially with the really low humidity over the past few days (in S. Cal)...
 
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HippieMan

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People often make things too complicated than they actually are. I took 6 clones from my strongest, most resilient plant; 3 of them were retarded and not even viable (just the fan leaves) but the other 3 were great. One died due to human error, but the other two were underneath a makeshift humidity dome that was so low that the tops of the clones were pressed against the ceiling. If you mist it twice a day and ignore them they will be fine. I used peat pellets, soaked in some spring water for a few minutes.

To your question about the timeframe to leave it on.. I actually left them in the dome for about a week, and give or take, a couple days. Then another week of gradually giving it air, first at only 10-15 minutes, then a couple hours. One clone had Zinc Defiency but I transplanted and it fixed it, another one is large enough to flower.

Its better to do it ineffeciently (two weeks) than to do it quickly and have the clones die.
 
jsgrwn

jsgrwn

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It Is A Very Easy Thing To Do. All You Have To Do Is Make Sure They Do Not Dry Out. The First Time I Ever Did It I Made 24 Clones And Lost 2 Of Them. Peice Of Cake Yall. And So You Know The 45 Degree Ange Is Not That Important S Long As You Have A Hardy Strain. Just Score The Area Near The Cut Before You Dip Em And All Will Be Fine, And Remember Dont Let Them Dry Out. They Will Always Look Like Shit The First Couple Of Days. Late

P.S.- I DONT USE A DOME EITHER
 
RASCALONE

RASCALONE

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a ganja how long after roots do you pull them out of the dome?like u said in the other post they crash after awhile,mine have done the same..wilt up and some live and some unfortunatly,well u know,lol......ras
 
GanjaGood!

GanjaGood!

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I've been pulling the dome off after just three days...trying again this week and will leave it on until I see roots come through the rockwool...I'll get back to you!
 
thewr#1

thewr#1

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There is no set time to take off the dome. I left it on until i saw roots and then transplanted. Whennn they are rdy they will be rdy dont take off the dome early or they will die as you have seen. Mine took 7-10 days.
 
jsgrwn

jsgrwn

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thewr#1 said:
There is no set time to take off the dome. I left it on until i saw roots and then transplanted. Whennn they are rdy they will be rdy dont take off the dome early or they will die as you have seen. Mine took 7-10 days.
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the dome deff gives them a better chance, but personally i think it is a waste of 6 bucks. if you care for your garden then you would monitor the conditions of the clones and adjust accordingly. i have only lost 2 clones ever. late
 
Geist

Geist

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Also i found using a heatmat/seed heating mat works wonders, alot of mine seem to die if they arnt placed on it asap (infact only time i didnt was the first time, forgot for 3 hours and it killed 9/10
 
GanjaGood!

GanjaGood!

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OK day 6 and everyting is green! Left the dome on and on heating pads...definitely a whole different story...previously they all died without dome and pad by this time!
 
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Rob Lewis

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I seem to be having problems with my White Widow(have a couple of these, nothing else). What am I doing wrong if at 4+ weeks, there still green, seem to be growing and even some have some new leaves, but still no roots? I've tired rockwool, and those ok starter cubes(th 1" and 2" ones), using a couple types of gel(not at the same time). I have a heating mat under them. I've tried leaving the dome on, removed the dome after a couple weeks. My temp is normally around 78 with the heating pad on. Tryed t5 and t8 lights. Maybe to much light, if that, i would think they would die off.

They never seem to die, I hit the 5-6+ weeks mark and pull them from the media and see if there are any roots. nope. Then try something else.

I've recently had some success with a bubbler, I picked up a heater for the water and success seems to be higher now. Just would like to be able to clone into a cube, i bought a bunch of them. :)


Maybe i'm picking the wrong branches to cut. I'll pick up some power rooting compound tomorrow. Would be great if anyone else had these problems and figured out what was going on.
thanks!
 
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drewbot

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All beginning cutters have this problem... rooting isn't magic but it's misunderstood. Get the rooting solution (Woods or Olivias i believe?). Both of these solutions have NAA and IBA 1:2 ratio or thereabouts. It's also in alcohol which stabilizes the hormone and some say softens the outer cells so the hormone will reach the meristem.

But i digress. What you are attempting to do to the cutting is to produce undifferentiated callus tissue from meristem cell. The rest is up to the plant. IBA and NAA are not rooting hormones but rather hormones for producing callus from which roots will invariably be created out of the plant's needs. On the other hand the foliage is going to go through drought stress and your job is to keep that from happening. Hardening off will come in time, but it doesn't help the plant root- it's just customary to do both at the same time so that you can get to planting the buggers.

But back to my original point- you want to use liquid hormone because the hormone needs to produce callus tissue but it inhibits adventitious root formation, so leaving hormone stuck to the stem is not a good thing.

Also to help get 'er started you can make the slice. 45 degree cuts arent necessary and some people shave up and down the stem but there is a lore in the cuts industry that suggests one single slice down the side to expose meristem. Apparently for roses two slices works better. Zero is also plenty fine but I make a single slice because I've seen a lot of commercial shit and it's common.
 
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Rob Lewis

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Just want to say, maybe my poor skills don't suck! Maybe give hope to that other noobs in the world. I still have my white widow plant that seems to take month plus to grow any roots when cloning. But I got a couple new ones started from seeds, some Sour D and Jack herer. Started from seeds a bit ago and finally got to the point of trying to clone them. To my surprise after 10 days, I'm seeing roots on 6 of my 12 cuttings.


One question i have, is half the steam on a couple of them has completely turned to mush after about 7 days. the leaves were still green and living. Can anyone tell me what causes this?

I beleive I have had an air bubble in some before, since they just shrivle up and died the next day. Just wondering. thanks again for a great site!
 
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