WOW shes flowering fast!

Kratose

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Yeah they are from Attitude and I have already sent them an email.

At least now you know you didn't cause the problem but yeah I can see how adding the epsom salt could make it worse since he never flushed. Hope you're able to at least make it not get worse and can reverse it even man.
Cool, you should be alright, they are usually good about sending replacements.

Yeah I was a littler happier to see I wasn't the cause of the problem. I am usually really good with keeping my plants healthy. Thanks for your well wishes. I hope everything turns out Ok and I can get a decent harvest. They still haven't started flowering yet. I figured they would of went into flowering quick because they were already sexually mature. Its been a week since they went into 12/12 so any day now they should start flowering.
 

QuantumChronic

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Have already started the germ process on the 3 S.A.D seeds and the kandy kush, ill start a thread for them tomorrow, hope you guys will come follow it.
 

rsharp

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Glad your seeds arrived Quantum i bet your ready to roll. thats a bummer u diddnt get ur freebies. thats the reason u went there in the first place lol. at least u know u will have some more seeds on the way!!!! i will deff be visiting your new thread!!! cant wait to see them puppies grow up!!

U finally found the answer kratose. i bet that took some stress off your back. especially knowing u diddnt cause the problem!!! i wasnt totally sure what the salt build up did to the plants!!

i was reading a post today and a guy in there left a hateful comment.... my goal was to piss him off even more by being nice to him. i sent him a p.m. telling him that i hope he has a good day.etc (lol) and this is what he wrote back.. "Well thx for the message and for telling me how to feel about negativity and positive comments. Kindly fuck off.
Happy growing".. i diddnt stop there though i wrote him back then i went to an active thread he had and told him how good his plants looked and i even gave him some rep. i gues u could say i was killing him with kindness. i wouldnt dare stoop to his level (i wanted too). in the end my plan failed. he ended up being very nice to me and explaing to how he set up his hydro system..i had fun though LOL
 

Kratose

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Have already started the germ process on the 3 S.A.D seeds and the kandy kush, ill start a thread for them tomorrow, hope you guys will come follow it.
Yeah just let me know when you get the thread started, I will definitely follow it. You guys are good people, I enjoy seeing your grows. Good luck with the seeds I hope they all germinate and sprout for you.

Glad your seeds arrived Quantum i bet your ready to roll. thats a bummer u diddnt get ur freebies. thats the reason u went there in the first place lol. at least u know u will have some more seeds on the way!!!! i will deff be visiting your new thread!!! cant wait to see them puppies grow up!!

U finally found the answer kratose. i bet that took some stress off your back. especially knowing u diddnt cause the problem!!! i wasnt totally sure what the salt build up did to the plants!!

i was reading a post today and a guy in there left a hateful comment.... my goal was to piss him off even more by being nice to him. i sent him a p.m. telling him that i hope he has a good day.etc (lol) and this is what he wrote back.. "Well thx for the message and for telling me how to feel about negativity and positive comments. Kindly fuck off.
Happy growing".. i diddnt stop there though i wrote him back then i went to an active thread he had and told him how good his plants looked and i even gave him some rep. i gues u could say i was killing him with kindness. i wouldnt dare stoop to his level (i wanted too). in the end my plan failed. he ended up being very nice to me and explaing to how he set up his hydro system..i had fun though LOL
Yeah it was nice to know I wasn't the cause. I hope I found the answer. Who knows because he did lots of things wrong. Packing down the soil, feeding his plants every watering, Not flushing them ever. It could be multiple things. But I am guessing him feeding his plants every watering, and never flushing is the culprit.

Lol, killing him with kindness. I have a hard time being nice to dickheads. He was telling you how to feel about negativity and positive comments?? Wonder if it was the same jackass who was a dickhead in my thread. Did his plants really look good? It probably frustrated him that you were being nice even when he was a jackass. Lol good work.
 

rsharp

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i just watched that video kratose. i wonder why people harp on P. when clearly the plant only needs about the same amount through veg and bloom. isnt it funny that he also mentioned that the plant needs more N durring flowering than it does durring veg. im going through that right now so tommorow im gonna flush real good and add some veg nutes!

Also. i sent advanced nutrients an email asking if they would let me try some samples. i havnt gotten a response yet. i will let u all no if they reply!
 

Kratose

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i just watched that video kratose. i wonder why people harp on P. when clearly the plant only needs about the same amount through veg and bloom. isnt it funny that he also mentioned that the plant needs more N durring flowering than it does durring veg. im going through that right now so tommorow im gonna flush real good and add some veg nutes!

Also. i sent advanced nutrients an email asking if they would let me try some samples. i havnt gotten a response yet. i will let u all no if they reply!
Probably because there were never any lab tests like that, so people really didn't know how little P it uses compared to N and K. And reason why most nutes have a very high Phosphorus is because they are really not catered to marijuana. Advanced nutrients is made specially for marijuana.

Ya let me know what happens with the free samples because I wouldn't mind trying that if it works for you. I just can't afford to buy advanced products. Wish I could because most growers I know who have used AN raves about it. Id like to try there PH and PPM perfect products too. Not sure when there going to start selling that at there website. I know they have released it to some hydro shops. Wish they would at least show what the price will be for there different packages. They have the hobbyist, expert ect. Be nice to see if i could possibly afford the hobbyist package.

I am out of weed :( Went through the OG Kush real fast lol. It was so good I couldn't help myself.

Oh and thanks for the rep again. I tried to rep you and Quantim and still no go. I been giving out rep like crazy, Figure by now it would let me give you guys rep again.
 

rsharp

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lol. thanks anyways(rep). the hydro by my store only sells fox farms i think... as soon as u walk through the door BAM their right there. i dont like to ask questions and im not a big browser i like to get in and get out. im really not sure what all they sell. A.N. has a lot of products as well. the names are a little strange as well too.
 

rsharp

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i was just looking at the A.N. website. i hope im reading this right. the 3 pack of Grow, Micro, and Bloom cost $41 (1 liter bottles). if this is right then its not too much more than FF nutes. there are ashitload of different nute though. nutes that feed your micro nute. thats some crazy shit...anyways they have a product called Connoisseur. what exactly is this product for? it says for professionals only but to me it seems like they did that on purpose so eveyone will by it. thanks!
 

rsharp

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shes lookin good quantum. what do u plan on doin with her since u got ur seeds? my plants grew exactly like your plant how they just take up half the pot at first. i think i might plant mine off-centered next time.i dont know though b/c u cant even tell once they stretch.
 

QuantumChronic

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shes lookin good quantum. what do u plan on doin with her since u got ur seeds? my plants grew exactly like your plant how they just take up half the pot at first. i think i might plant mine off-centered next time.i dont know though b/c u cant even tell once they stretch.
If I can get my veg cabinet built I would love to grow her out but I got like a day to build something or else I'm just gonna kill them lol
 

rsharp

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Thanks for postin OJ. ya Ak-48 is pretty popular on nirvanashop. i guess its because its the first femd. seed listed.lol.. thanks for the compliment by the way!

i feel ya quantum. i would make room for the bigboys and call it a day. or u could expierament on her. make it hurm and collect the seeds LOL
 

QuantumChronic

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Nah its all or nothing on her, just haven't made a choice yet lol need to determine if I wanna use MG soil again or go spend extra money on FF or something else
 

rsharp

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hey its up to you. your plant was growing great so MG soil does work! depending on how big your pots are one bag of ocean forest will be enough for about 4-6 plants (i have 3.5 gallon pots and used a tad less than half. they also have happy frog soil and it comes in a giant bag that would deff last 2-3 grows! i cant really think of any other soils off the top of my head.
 

QuantumChronic

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Jus received an email from attitude saying "sorry this was over looked, we will give you some ufo's on your next order." That's some fucking bullshit and I responded that is not fair of them to do. I'm trying to be polite with these people but they have started on the wrong foot lol so for me to to get my freebies I've should have got in the first place I gotta spend more money and pay for shipping again to correct their fault. Makes no fucking sense to me.
 

rsharp

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im thinking they dont want to pay for shipping. thats their fault though. they have to send them bitches to u... if they want to keep your buisness then they better send them to ya. i just cant get over that. fuck attitude.
 

Kratose

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i was just looking at the A.N. website. i hope im reading this right. the 3 pack of Grow, Micro, and Bloom cost $41 (1 liter bottles). if this is right then its not too much more than FF nutes. there are ashitload of different nute though. nutes that feed your micro nute. thats some crazy shit...anyways they have a product called Connoisseur. what exactly is this product for? it says for professionals only but to me it seems like they did that on purpose so eveyone will by it. thanks!

The Connoisseur is a 2 part system. The Grow Micro Bloom is catered to people who are use to using a 3 part system. The connoisseur does the same thing as the grow micro bloom just in a 2 part system. Its suppose to be a step up from the Grow Micro Bloom. So those would be your base Nutrients and stuff like Budcandy, b52, overdrive ect are your additives. The more additives you use, the more difficult it is. They do have a hobbyist package. You can choose either the 3 part or the 2 part connoisseur as your base nutrients, then for additives you get Vodoo Juice, bigbud, B52, and Overdrive. When you master that you can go to the Expert level with adds even more Additives.

Some of AN's products are cheaper then others. I am waiting for the PH PPM perfect systems to come out. Because of the price I would start with the Hobbyist package. Some Hydro shops are already selling them, but you can't order it from AN's website yet.

I would suggest starting with the 3 part system, and when you get more growing experience you can try the Connoisseur. I have tried Connoisseur before and its really good. Nah, they didn't do it on purpose, Its kinda a warning for new growers to start out with the Grow Micro Bloom before venturing into the Connoisseur.

You wan't to know why I respect AN so much? Well I know someone who works for them. You might have heard of him. Remo AKA Urban Grower. But the main reason I have so much respect for AN is this http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-articles/bigmike-recommends-competitors-product

Who the hell does that? That's being very humble. I Know there are lots of people who Bash AN, but they are a really good company that looks out for the interest of there customers, or Clients I should say. And well, they are the only Nutrients made JUST TO GROW MARIJUANA, and they are not afraid to say it either.
 

Kratose

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Jus received an email from attitude saying "sorry this was over looked, we will give you some ufo's on your next order." That's some fucking bullshit and I responded that is not fair of them to do. I'm trying to be polite with these people but they have started on the wrong foot lol so for me to to get my freebies I've should have got in the first place I gotta spend more money and pay for shipping again to correct their fault. Makes no fucking sense to me.
Hey your girls are looking great. I would keep her around and experiment with her. And MG soil will do. I have used it many times with great success. Just get the Organic Soil. Not the shit with the time release nutes. You don't want that.

Now about Attitude. You should tell them you are a first time customer, and because of what happened you might not place a second order to get your freebee's. Tell them people from Rollitup.org recommend them and you did plan on placing more orders but after your experience on the first order you will go elsewhere. There are plenty of other seedbanks out there, and they know this. Don't make any threats, just let them know how you feel about your first experience ordering from them. Make it clear that you did plan on buying more seeds, but now have second thoughts. Also let them know the only reason you ordered was to get the freebee's.

Good luck bro.
 
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