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Someguy15

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Nice harvest..I scrog and personally would not use chicken wire. The holes are to small.
I use fencing with 2in x 3in holes but would rather use 2x2.

You are gonna have a lot of foliage under the screen are you planning on lollipoping?
Plan is to lollipop it off, everything under the screen probably...at least the bottom 12" of the plants. If the buds develop above the screen why would it matter what size the holes are?
 

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Thats one healthy looking harvest, good job bro!! The pineapple scrog is gonna be soo nice, cant wait to see the buds start forming!! +Rep once I spread it around a little haha..
 

Nunotmp

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Plan is to lollipop it off, everything under the screen probably...at least the bottom 12" of the plants. If the buds develop above the screen why would it matter what size the holes are?
Because as they grow you will need to pull them back under the screen to reposition them and with small holes it's going to be tough with the fan leaves..
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Because as they grow you will need to pull them back under the screen to reposition them and with small holes it's going to be tough with the fan leaves..
He is right. IMHO If you want to be able to train them as they grow, you will may want larger holes in the screen. The chicken wire would make a good support though, you just won't be able to do much once they have grown through the screen. A lot of growers use two screens. One 10-12 inches above the medium for for support ( chicken wire might work well here) and then another toward the top of the canopy for training and extra support.
 

Someguy15

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He is right. IMHO If you want to be able to train them as they grow, you will may want larger holes in the screen. The chicken wire would make a good support though, you just won't be able to do much once they have grown through the screen. A lot of growers use two screens. One 10-12 inches above the medium for for support ( chicken wire might work well here) and then another toward the top of the canopy for training and extra support.
Guess were just trying for support then. I'll make sure I pull them all under daily for the first week or maybe 10 days of flowering, then I'll probably just let it go natural at that point.
 

kingofqueen

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Nice harvest man ! Comforting to see on the PE although your running 1k of light. My PE are 19 days from 12/12 now got a few pics up but i need to get some better ones .Can you check em out for me?
 

Nunotmp

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Guess were just trying for support then. I'll make sure I pull them all under daily for the first week or maybe 10 days of flowering, then I'll probably just let it go natural at that point.

Its not necessary for bigger holes..Its all about personal preference. after a few weeks the stretch will stop. scroging is pretty much about timing, when do you plan on flipping to 12/12?
 

Someguy15

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Its not necessary for bigger holes..Its all about personal preference. after a few weeks the stretch will stop. scroging is pretty much about timing, when do you plan on flipping to 12/12?
Already have just yesterday. Crossing my fingers that I have estimated the stretch right... I think I'm pretty close, I know the PE well.
 

Nunotmp

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Nice..Good luck.

Is there a reason why you didnt wait to fill up the screen some? On you last pictures the plant have not reached the screen.
But you know what your doing and a good job so i hope you get some huge nugs and improved yields with the scrog.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Yea, you will be fine man. I used a screen with 2" holes my first run and it worked out as long as you stay on top of it. Since you know the strain so well, you should be able to time it just right. Looks good brother. I am still amazed at the colas you always get off of those PE ladies. I still haven't decided when I am going to pop my PE seeds. I was in a big hurry to get them a couple months ago and still haven't popped any. lol
 

quickrip

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Guess were just trying for support then. I'll make sure I pull them all under daily for the first week or maybe 10 days of flowering, then I'll probably just let it go natural at that point.
Whats up Someguy finally got over here.sorry it took me so long. Looking great man. Nice harvest! I think Youve defenitely got the right idea about leaving them alone after a couple weeks. I usually train for about 2 weeks and then let em go. At first I was training through wek 3-4 and I never got big nice colas cause all the colas get thrown over sideways and you get all smaller nugs, which is ok. But I like big fatties instead. +rep bro nice work over here.
 

litljohn

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hey sg,i seen that you have milk jugs filled with water in your flood tray,is that so you need less water to fill the tray?thats a pretty good idea,plus rep
 

Someguy15

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Yea, you will be fine man. I used a screen with 2" holes my first run and it worked out as long as you stay on top of it. Since you know the strain so well, you should be able to time it just right. Looks good brother. I am still amazed at the colas you always get off of those PE ladies. I still haven't decided when I am going to pop my PE seeds. I was in a big hurry to get them a couple months ago and still haven't popped any. lol
pop one, u won't regret it lol
Whats up Someguy finally got over here.sorry it took me so long. Looking great man. Nice harvest! I think Youve defenitely got the right idea about leaving them alone after a couple weeks. I usually train for about 2 weeks and then let em go. At first I was training through wek 3-4 and I never got big nice colas cause all the colas get thrown over sideways and you get all smaller nugs, which is ok. But I like big fatties instead. +rep bro nice work over here.
thanks for the tips, hopin it goes to plan since it's my first scrog. Should only get better from here on out.
hey sg,i seen that you have milk jugs filled with water in your flood tray,is that so you need less water to fill the tray?thats a pretty good idea,plus rep
Exactly what they are for. Gallon zip lock bags of water work good too.
 

Someguy15

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Only ended up with about 18 oz off last harvest...not too bad I guess it's still .5 G/watt. Hoping the screen and better light placement will help me hit 22-23 oz this next harvest.

Oh and I'm drunk happy Halloween!
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Only ended up with about 18 oz off last harvest...not too bad I guess it's still .5 G/watt. Hoping the screen and better light placement will help me hit 22-23 oz this next harvest.

Oh and I'm drunk happy Halloween!
Hey Bro, that is a respectable yeild. I am sure you will increase it with the screen though. I too am drunk and high... Happy Holloween!!
 

Someguy15

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Hey Bro, that is a respectable yeild. I am sure you will increase it with the screen though. I too am drunk and high... Happy Holloween!!
Nice yield bro, happy halloween!!
Thx guys...

Did a little looking into my nute costs current and H&G vs Canna. I currently change every 10 days, but would go to every 7 on H&G/Canna....but man canna really gets you for the 'boost', I even did the calc with the big bottle which saved a little... No tax and my local prices, but gives u a idea...If I switch it will def be H&G.

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#1Raiderfan420

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You've got to love a guy that does his research. Just wanted to mention that you could go longer between res changes with H&G if you wanted to. I don't make my first change until 4 1/2 weeks. I just top off the reserviors every few days and re-adjust the ppms. I do change every 7 days while usinge Shooting powder though. So I am sure you could wait atleast 10 days which would save you a few res changes. Just my 2 cents anyway.
 

Someguy15

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You've got to love a guy that does his research. Just wanted to mention that you could go longer between res changes with H&G if you wanted to. I don't make my first change until 4 1/2 weeks. I just top off the reserviors every few days and re-adjust the ppms. I do change every 7 days while usinge Shooting powder though. So I am sure you could wait atleast 10 days which would save you a few res changes. Just my 2 cents anyway.
I noticed the aussie site recommends multi enzym everything except veg week 1. For the US I only see it used flower weeks 1-3...but the dosage seems to be the same. Are they the same product? Do you run it what the aussies recommend or us raiderfan?
 

#1Raiderfan420

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I noticed the aussie site recommends multi enzym everything except veg week 1. For the US I only see it used flower weeks 1-3...but the dosage seems to be the same. Are they the same product? Do you run it what the aussies recommend or us raiderfan?
I run it week 2 of veg through week 3 of flower. I stop using the multizyme when I start the budxl.
 
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