Water PH

dr.feelgood69

dr.feelgood69

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I have been using one of the screw on the faucet water purifiers for my plant water. I have not actually been testing for PH at all. I haven't seen any problems but was wondering how important this could be. I did go ahead and buy all of the necessary accessories to measure it with (pen, pen storage and stabilization solution), but I am still waiting on the postal service to deliver the PH up / PH down so I haven't actually measured any of the water yet, but I will once the up/down solution is delivered (sometime next week hopefully) but I was wondering if this is something that is a 'do or die' type situation or something that will just make my plants better?
 
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Doj

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Yeah, I mean you will probably be ok but PH is really important.

PH is one of the most important things, and you should always keep an eye on it. Think of it this way, if your PH is off there is a chance your plant will not be able to take in nutrients properly and can cause a lockout. Its a simple check that will go along ways.
 
kudaross

kudaross

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Your plants will probably be fine till then if they have made it this far. I think pH is the definitely a critical thing to pay attention to while growing, as it's your foundation for the nutrient availability.
 
dr.feelgood69

dr.feelgood69

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kudaross said:
Your plants will probably be fine till then if they have made it this far. I think pH is the definitely a critical thing to pay attention to while growing, as it's your foundation for the nutrient availability.
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7.1 is the right PH that I should be looking for right? The thing is that I am thinking that it will always be a game, you know up, then damn too much, ok down, Damn again into a never ending circle jerk. I am probably being dramatic and it is probably not that bad. But you know one thing I remember is that I grew up with fish tanks and they had this product called 'Bullseye' it was mainly for a fish called 'Discus' that had to have a specific PH and this stuff hit the right number with just one application. I am guessing they don't have that for us because everyone would be buying that. Have you ever seen/heard of anything like that or do we just have to play it the up/down way?
 
welshsmoker

welshsmoker

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if you put 7.1 ph water into ph 6.5 soil it raise the ph of the soil by 0.6 which would raise your soil to 7.1 , its all maths and stuff mate, if your soil ph is high put a lower ph in your water and vice versa... seems to be everything i have been told on rui and it works pretty good, good growing man...
 
dr.feelgood69

dr.feelgood69

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welshsmoker said:
if you put 7.1 ph water into ph 6.5 soil it raise the ph of the soil by 0.6 which would raise your soil to 7.1 , its all maths and stuff mate, if your soil ph is high put a lower ph in your water and vice versa... seems to be everything i have been told on rui and it works pretty good, good growing man...
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So we had better measure the PH of the soil as well as the water?
 
mouthmeetsoap

mouthmeetsoap

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welshsmoker said:
if you put 7.1 ph water into ph 6.5 soil it raise the ph of the soil by 0.6 which would raise your soil to 7.1 , its all maths and stuff mate, if your soil ph is high put a lower ph in your water and vice versa... seems to be everything i have been told on rui and it works pretty good, good growing man...
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Broke a mental sweat doing that math. Either way, putting 7.1 water in your soil won't change it to 7.1. It will raise the levels, but not so drastically, unless of course you fluch with water at that level. A good pH for soil is between 6.3 and 6.7. If you can keep it right in there, nutrient availability is optimum. If you want, check your soil, but I wouldn't if I've had no problems with lockout. Just keep tabs on what's going in.
 
welshsmoker

welshsmoker

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mouthmeetsoap said:
Broke a mental sweat doing that math. Either way, putting 7.1 water in your soil won't change it to 7.1. It will raise the levels, but not so drastically, unless of course you fluch with water at that level. A good pH for soil is between 6.3 and 6.7. If you can keep it right in there, nutrient availability is optimum. If you want, check your soil, but I wouldn't if I've had no problems with lockout. Just keep tabs on what's going in.
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not exact maths mate, but putting a higher ph water into your lower ph soil should raise the ph in your soil, as in putting a lower ph in your water will drop your ph in soil, dont no the maths but i think this is how it works, figures for example only.... might depend on how much water is fed plus how much and which soil, so many variables, but i think thesse are the basic guidelines..
 
dr.feelgood69

dr.feelgood69

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welshsmoker said:
not exact maths mate, but putting a higher ph water into your lower ph soil should raise the ph in your soil, as in putting a lower ph in your water will drop your ph in soil, dont no the maths but i think this is how it works, figures for example only.... might depend on how much water is fed plus how much and which soil, so many variables, but i think thesse are the basic guidelines..
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Well that definitely makes sense, so you wouldn't worry about measuring the soil unless there is a problem but try to keep the water around 6.3 and 6.7? I have the pen and measuring solution, I just need to order the up/down solution which I am planning on doing today if you think it is that important, which it sounds like it is.
 
303

303

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dr.feelgood69 said:
Well that definitely makes sense, so you wouldn't worry about measuring the soil unless there is a problem but try to keep the water around 6.3 and 6.7? I have the pen and measuring solution, I just need to order the up/down solution which I am planning on doing today if you think it is that important, which it sounds like it is.
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Why are you waiting for a ph up down kit if you have the pen and the calibrating solution? I measure water+nutrients before watering ensuring 6.5 ph. Then I measure the runoff ensuring the same reading..
 
dr.feelgood69

dr.feelgood69

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303 said:
Why are you waiting for a ph up down kit if you have the pen and the calibrating solution? I measure water+nutrients before watering ensuring 6.5 ph. Then I measure the runoff ensuring the same reading..
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Correct me if I am wrong, because I may be, but if the pen shows the of the water PH being too high or too low we have to adjust before watering right or am I missing something, I am growing in soil for now?
 
GodSlave

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Yes, correct the water PH before watering... BUT, you need to do runoff tests also just as added protection.
 
dr.feelgood69

dr.feelgood69

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GodSlave said:
Yes, correct the water PH before watering... BUT, you need to do runoff tests also just as added protection.
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Okay, got it, can you explain the benefit of testing the runoff water (I'm sure there is a good reason-I just really don't know why), please forgive my ignorance.
 
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