LSD, Good idea?Bad idea?

gaungwanna

gaungwanna

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do it witha a painkiller and eat a bannana when you start trippin i find something in bannanas effect your trip and you dreams
 
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geneticdrifter

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fdd2blk said:
it was 1986. we knew this guy in berkeley. i think he knew the family. it was nothing but clean. no bad nothing to it. i really do miss it. i don't think i will ever see that type again though. the dead was around. oakland coliseum parking lot every 6 months. you'd never really here about it. you'd just drive by the coliseum and all the buses would start to show up. we would run home and jump on the phone. "THE DEAD ARE IN TOWN." never once went inside to see the show. couldn't make it passed the gates. the parking lot was pretty much the event. so many stories.........
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i would love to say its still around but who knows how good u really had it.

Ethnobotanist said:
In very rare and special circumstances, psychadelics can have undesirable or even unfortunate effects. In people who are already strongly predisposed to mental illness, there is a chance that taking any psychoactive material (including marijuana) can "unlock" certain latent and hidden mental illness. In other words, Kildragoth, your uncle was already schizophrenic. It just hadn't manifested itself yet. People with a history of psychological problems, a strong tendency toward mental illness in their family, or those that have sociopathic tendencies are strongly encouraged to stay away from psychadelics. Since for some of these people, their brains are "wired" differently, it may possibly precipitate an already existing mental illness. But it isn't cut and dry, my friends. Paradoxically, some psychoactives show the potential to TREAT mental illness. In rare cases, those with -slight- sociopathic personality disorder have developed a capacity for empathy towards others with psychadelics that wasn't there previously. But it has been documented that in rare cases, psychadelics can have these undesirable effects.

But I don't want to scare people from experimenting with psychadelics. If you're not at risk, are mentally/emotionally stable, and well informed, then it can be one of the most amazing experiences of your life, next to having children. I'm not kidding. Exploring ones own consciousness is one of the most worthwhile and rewarding things a person can do in their lifetime, and psychadelics offer an easy and unique way to do so. But you must be well-informed, well-intentioned, and stable if you are wanting to use an entheogen. People sometimes use entheogens (Greek for "God (being born) within") in a recreational manner. This is part of the reason so many people have "bad trips". They take these drugs in an unpredictable environment, around people they don't implicitly trust, and do so often without being informed about the possible effects. Although you can have "fun" with these substances on occasion, they are NOT party drugs, or even recreational drugs, really. They were never used that way until rather recently, and make no mistake, these are VERY powerful substances. Somewhere along the line, during the 1960's, people thought that fragmenting your conceptual framework, altering your perceptions, and playing with your ego (sense of "self") could be fun. If you don't have respect for these substances, then, in my opinion, you have no business doing them. And it is the primary reason these substances are so feared; people who were completely unprepared playing with something they didn't understand or respect (thus leading to a wretched experience) ruined it for the rest of us.

But, if you educate yourself, surround yourself with good, trustworthy people, and keep set and setting in mind... You can uncover more inside yourself than you ever thought existed. Entheogens can bring love and understanding into your life, if you let them. And this isn't "hippie talk". If you've never had a powerful entheogenic experience, chances are you probably don't know what I'm talking about. Entheogens CAN produce empathy for other life, understanding of the universe around you, and knowledge of "what" you are, or even what "God" is. It can also solidify bonds with other people that last a lifetime. In short, they have the potential to make someone a better person, if used correctly.

Oh, and a side note... LSD-25 is neither "weaker" nor "stronger" than psychadelic mushrooms. They're two completely different substances with different effects. Like comparing apples and oranges. The "recreational" doses that most people take of mushrooms in, despite how powerful it seems, is actually a low dose. An "entheogenic/shamanic dose" or "heroic dose" is seven grams and above. For people that are especially susceptable to psilocybin, a lower dose, such as five grams, may be sufficient. Some people are more naturally resistant to the chemical, and may require more for a similar experience. LSD is active in the microgram range, and thus, less is needed for a threshold experience. It's just a difference in active dosage.

If anyone is considering using psychadelics, read, study, and open your mind. Erowid.org is a good place to start... I strongly encourage people to look at information related to the history, philosophy, and religious contexts of psychadelic use. Even if that's not your cup of tea, that will give you another view of psychadelics that experience reports can't fill in. Entheogens, believe it or not, were a driving force behind much of the counterculture. Civil rights, women's liberation, and religious freedom might not be quite where they are today if it wasn't for the cultural awakening these substances helped fuel.

~Ethno
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great info for the first timer. acid will do what u want it to. it will expose ur inner wants and motivations to u, if u look.


WhatAmIDoing said:
I agree with nearly everything you're saying. However, I just want to put this out there because a rounded education is important. Don't let anyone tell you you have to do drugs to experience this love and understanding. Many people find these on their own without the help of psychadelics. Look at Buddhism for just one example. Everyone has their own path to achieve "enlightenment", so don't follow someone or something just because you want the end result. Make sure it's what you want, because the result of any certain action can be polar opposites for any two people. So find your own path, absorb all the information you can, but in the end, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS based on what you believe to be the best for you in the circumstances and situation.






~Edit~ "nearly" is just a disclaimer, in case there was something that in retrospect i don't find such a good idea. but that's unlikely, so top notch mate.
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i agree with what ur saying on principle. but most people aren't The buddha and can't understand the world with a beginner's mind, without the use of some external help. for some years of study, or moments of pain, or hallucinogens.

Acid, for me, allows me to see my life with new perspective. i don't really take it to get "fucked up" i just like the occasional hallucinogenic realignment.

Acid will give u what ur able to take from it. it can be an extrodinary vehicle for change or just what u needed for ur first panic attack. if ur curious about acid itself then take it. if u just want to "trip" then wait for the shrooms.

PEACE!





a fitty dorrar....
 
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lJamiel

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fdd2blk said:
it was 1986. we knew this guy in berkeley. i think he knew the family. it was nothing but clean. no bad nothing to it. i really do miss it. i don't think i will ever see that type again though. the dead was around. oakland coliseum parking lot every 6 months. you'd never really here about it. you'd just drive by the coliseum and all the buses would start to show up. we would run home and jump on the phone. "THE DEAD ARE IN TOWN." never once went inside to see the show. couldn't make it passed the gates. the parking lot was pretty much the event. so many stories.........
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Wow, the dead... before my time. Means your old :joint::mrgreen:
 
sum0

sum0

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Ever heard of HPPD?? Its a mental condition where your acid hallucinations are ALWAYS there, even months after taking acid. Dont think im bullshitting here, I thought I was sweet, Until I started to notice The random lines of color, and the way patterns moulded together. I still have it today, It fucking sucks but u get used to it.


SO watch out, acid is cool but it can fuck you up severly
 
creeder

creeder

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Acid is my favorite drug. I would try it if I were you as long as your around good people don't get mixed in with people the have not done it cause it will trip you out just hang with people that are on it and you will have a great time. If you start to wig out the worst thing you can do is fight it cause that makes it worse. Go with the flow and remember what your seeing or is happing is an illusion. In have done 100's of hits in the day and I recomend it. Go buy a couple handfulls of fireworks a shoot them off when your peaking its great. We whant to hear all about your trip to! Good luck
 
creeder

creeder

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bunique209 said:
acid... LSD... same thing? Ive read acid is a bunch of chemicals , and LSD is a mold that grows on bread
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Dude where the fuck did you hear that. Take your shoe and beat the person with it that told you that. That fucking makes me laugh. If that were the cause we all would be wired.
 
Ethnobotanist

Ethnobotanist

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bunique209 said:
acid... LSD... same thing? Ive read acid is a bunch of chemicals , and LSD is a mold that grows on bread
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You didn't understand what you were reading. LSD-25 is a synthetic material, yes. But it's derived from an LSA (tryptamine) present in the ergot fungus. Ergot usually grows on rye, barley, and some other grains. It CAN be made from other LSAs which can found in other sources, but it's much more difficult and costly to do- it requires more steps.

So in short:

"Acid" is a slang term for doses of LSD-25. LSD is an LSA. [This] LSA comes from a fungus on grains, but is refined into LSD-25 in a lab. Done.

Oh, and LSD is technically not a "chemical". It's a molecule, like water or oxygen, only it does not exist in nature.

~Ethno
 
gaungwanna

gaungwanna

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sum0 said:
Ever heard of HPPD?? Its a mental condition where your acid hallucinations are ALWAYS there, even months after taking acid. Dont think im bullshitting here, I thought I was sweet, Until I started to notice The random lines of color, and the way patterns moulded together. I still have it today, It fucking sucks but u get used to it.


SO watch out, acid is cool but it can fuck you up severly
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hey I feel ya on that. i only see it when i laydown to sleep or if i eat bannana sand it has to be dark. i see moons orbiting planets and Dr. seuss charicters walking around the moons . or the 40 licks (rolling stones)symbol turinig.i Sometinmes i see faces pop outta nowhere and thse are what can be kinda scary cut there not always human. this is after 2 and a half mounths i did acid

i thinks someone hear should loook into how bannanas effect you brain
with psycoactives cuz they make you dream, and i swear buy them i always eat one when i trip out and everybody laughs cuz they think im crazy

also if im gonna do acid im gonna do 20 mg of hydromorphine then im really buzzin and i find the trip way more bright and intense.
Regardless of intencity tha morph always keeps you feeling amazing
 
apollo19

apollo19

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sum0 said:
Ever heard of HPPD?? Its a mental condition where your acid hallucinations are ALWAYS there, even months after taking acid. Dont think im bullshitting here, I thought I was sweet, Until I started to notice The random lines of color, and the way patterns moulded together. I still have it today, It fucking sucks but u get used to it.


SO watch out, acid is cool but it can fuck you up severly
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That is fucked up! I've done it ~7-8 times...All very interesting experiences.

My one regrettable experience (my second last time) was at a block party at my college. A riot erupted when the party officially ended at 11pm and people were too shitfaced to comply. People were setting couches on fire which ignited a couple trees, and firemen were dispersing the crowd with fire hoses. Probably the most F-ed up situation you could possible be in. Now multiply that by 1000 because I was on 2 geltabs.

If you're ever on acid and find yourself in any undesirable situation, your anxiety is multiplied many-fold as you trip your face off. My recipe for a good time involves a campfire, GOOD friends, and some Grateful Dead.
 
cream8

cream8

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.....in some cultures its refered to as medicine. therefore it should be treated with respect...awwww man do i have to change my avatar?
 
aattocchi

aattocchi

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Maybe the trails and bending light are always there, you just never noticed them until the LSD pointed it out, LOL!:mrgreen:
 
mxpxsunkist

mxpxsunkist

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If anything id suggest getting strips to take it off of instead of the Gel tabs

Gel Tabs = Worthless

I did it on Halloween this year for my first time ever, i didnt notice it starting to take effect until me and my buddy were playing halo3 and smoking in this bedroom at this party, and the screen started to melt from side to side......and Then the people i was with, were making halloween masks that were NUTS looking...

If your with people you trust, i would definitly suggest trying it....
Just dont do what i did and have random ass motherfuckers walking in to the bedroom staring at your eyes because your pupils are the size of quarters....

Only got to page 3 but Good Luck
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