Prop 19 Official Results Thread

Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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desert dude said:
The last legalization initiative was in 1972, so maybe my grand kids will get the next shot at it.
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Public opinion is going in our direction so I don't think it'll be that long. I seriously doubt it's going to happen in the next decade though... There is not going to be a legalization bill more palatable to non-smokers than prop 19. People are deluding themselves by thinking prop 19 wasn't liberal enough. Anything law without taxes, regulations, and protection from minors will fail a lot worse than this.
 
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Coals

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I highly doubt there will ever be another chance. The anti legalization corner just won a MAJOR victory.

The US is approaching 12% incarceration of their population. The private prison industry is on fire and growing exponentially. Prisoners are customers to these people and eveyone knows the backbone of a succesful business is return customers!

The DEA is receiving more funding than at any point in its history.

Steve Cooley is a radical anti MJ nut ball.

Big Pharma has medical MJ in its sights and is spending millions anually to lobby for tougher laws.

All of these groups just won a major victory and will be pouring it on.

I hear a lot of "oh well, if you dont have yer card yer a tard" shit. Being allowed to smoke MJ because you have a hang nail is not the answer to prohibition! The medical MJ situation in Cali is a joke, the world knows it and the government will be reigning it in........soon.
 
nathenking

nathenking

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There def wont be another one with attitudes like that... At first if you dont succeed.... the world is not ending.... colorado already has a legalize it 2012 camp going.... people are already moving on...
 
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dannydakota

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Good job, Cali :clap:

West coast smokers must love that bitter taste of defeat. Let something like this up for vote on the East coast, we'll show you how it's done.
 
tardis

tardis

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Coals said:
I highly doubt there will ever be another chance. The anti legalization corner just won a MAJOR victory.

The US is approaching 12% incarceration of their population. The private prison industry is on fire and growing exponentially. Prisoners are customers to these people and eveyone knows the backbone of a succesful business is return customers!

The DEA is receiving more funding than at any point in its history.

Steve Cooley is a radical anti MJ nut ball.

Big Pharma has medical MJ in its sights and is spending millions anually to lobby for tougher laws.

All of these groups just won a major victory and will be pouring it on.

I hear a lot of "oh well, if you dont have yer card yer a tard" shit. Being allowed to smoke MJ because you have a hang nail is not the answer to prohibition! The medical MJ situation in Cali is a joke, the world knows it and the government will be reigning it in........soon.
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Yup, I would not want to be a humbolt grower right now given the Federal Government sees this as a sign that the people of california want pot growers and their pot eradicated. Prepare for poison drops that only effect bud to be dropped from helecopters liek they do in Hawaii.
 
tardis

tardis

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I don't understand why the People of California think this will make the ballot again? As far as the Government is concerned the answer has been given for this generation, NO Marijuana.

Instead of tax dollars helping California's Economy it will be like they do with Hawaii and the Feds will give money to California to eradicate growing pot onprivate property. Dont say it can happen as it DOES happen here several times a year. Cali can make a lot of money with a helecopter eradication program over humbold and mendicino. I think thats where they will look for answers.. then again i'm just pessimisitic about this entire election, no good came of anybody voted in.
 
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dannydakota

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tardis said:
I don't understand why the People of California think this will make the ballot again? As far as the Government is concerned the answer has been given for this generation, NO Marijuana.
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That's what really got me. This is probably going to be used as a reference for possible movements in the future. Well, at least Cali got enough initiative to get it up there. Hopefully other states will try... we just need one to get it all started.
 
1gamma45

1gamma45

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I said it once and I will say it again.


You had your chance and you cut your throat. You fucked yourself cause you were greedy little POS. This is the USA not burger king. You cant have it your way. This was your shot and you blew it huge.

g/j dumbasses. How about this leave a note for your kids kids kids so when they get the next chance they wont make the same selfish dumbass mistakes.
 
Needofweed

Needofweed

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haha fuck prop 19 Im glad that piece of shit prop failed.Some fucking idiots would suck dick just to smoke weed legaly. ha fucking ha bitches.
 
purple blues

purple blues

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fuckin awesome! yeah!....NOT...question....when are we going to stop supporting drug dealers an start supporting schools?
 
purple blues

purple blues

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omg! could u imagine if the devil weed was legal! it'd be anarchy! raping and pillaging all over madness i tell ya!
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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purple blues said:
fuckin awesome! yeah!....NOT...question....when are we going to stop supporting drug dealers an start supporting schools?
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Had P19 passed, the taxes wouldn't have even covered enforcement.

It would have ended up being a net loss.

If the fees and taxes were punitive(likely), it would have merely encouraged the Black market to continue. An even greater loss of revenue as enforcement costs would increase even more.
 
tc1

tc1

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veggiegardener said:
Had P19 passed, the taxes wouldn't have even covered enforcement.

It would have ended up being a net loss.

If the fees and taxes were punitive(likely), it would have merely encouraged the Black market to continue. An even greater loss of revenue as enforcement costs would increase even more.
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Yes, because reducing the resources wasted on marijuana prosecutions ... and the taxing of a new product would obviously increase debt. You have got to be shitting me.

And because people would have to pay taxes, the black market would continue. Sorta like all those Alcohol, Candy, Gasoline, and Corn cartels ... Don't want to run into one of those Twizzler slingers in a dark ally way for sure. :roll:
 
tardis

tardis

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dannydakota said:
That's what really got me. This is probably going to be used as a reference for possible movements in the future. Well, at least Cali got enough initiative to get it up there. Hopefully other states will try... we just need one to get it all started.
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No politician or organization will associate themselves with a bill on marijuana in the future because its already shown to fail. They might even say "Well the growers were against it" and they will just say "Well they probly will switch against it and ruin it again" thus making marijuana taboo from now on in politics... no more Zack Galficnacus lighitng upon tv again.
 
tardis

tardis

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veggiegardener said:
Had P19 passed, the taxes wouldn't have even covered enforcement.

It would have ended up being a net loss.

If the fees and taxes were punitive(likely), it would have merely encouraged the Black market to continue. An even greater loss of revenue as enforcement costs would increase even more.
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Tell that tot he guy who goes away to prison losing his kids and job sometime next week over weed.
 
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