What is fire?

BongJuice

Well-Known Member
First off, I'm superbaked right now.:-P
I was thinking....No, I was deep thinking. You know... that place you get to when you're totally couch locked.
Anyways I'm comin down right and I'm losing my train of thought.
What the hell is fire? Where does is come from?
I know how fire works, the process and all.
But once the flames begin, and all the colors...
Some reddish, and orangish, and blue, white...
You know what I mean?
If not, it's all good...right?
Well, I think it's about that time for me to go back into my special place.:-P

To be continued...
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
fire is energy being released in a chemical reaction

the colors are different temperatures, same reasoning there are different colored stars (red , blue, yellow)
 

Dirty Harry

Well-Known Member
it is plasma
What he said. It is not a solid nor a liquid and only exists during a state of high energy (the burning of fuel and oxygen). Take away that energy, the plasma (fire) goes away.
High energy plasma cutters cut metal, but the plasma is not a solid or a liquid but it sure as hell burns and cuts well when properly motivated and focused.
 

Dirty Harry

Well-Known Member
Fire is a gas unless it gets hot enough it may become ionized. Then it becomes a plasma.;-)
Crap...Your right and I was wrong...Damn good stoner question though.

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What exactly is fire?

November 22, 2002
Dear Cecil:
What exactly is fire? I know it's combustion of fuel, blah, blah . . . but what is it exactly? Is it purely energy? What state of matter is it? I suspect it's highly energetic gases, whose energy state is so high that they emit light, and thus we see flame, with the hotter flames being higher in electromagnetic energy. But I've never seen any source explaining exactly what fire is. Can it be ionized? Can it be affected by magnetism? Gravity?
— Wenhsingyu
This letter shows why the world needs me. The explanations of fire in most standard reference works, not to put too fine a point on it, suck. The Encyclopaedia Britannica, for example, takes the following ineffectual stab: "rapid burning of combustible material with the evolution of heat and usually accompanied by flame." No wonder people have lost faith in science. Time to let a professional show how it's done. We'll start by reviewing the defects of the EB definition.
(1) Rapid burning. OK, fire burns rapidly. Slow combustion, also known as oxidation, includes such nonfiery processes as rusting and digestion. However, to say that fire involves burning is to embark on a circular definition: What is fire? When something burns. What is burning? When something is on fire. We need to address the matter in more basic terms.
(2) Combustible materials. Redundant. If a material is capable of rapid burning, by definition it's combustible. Also, "materials" is needlessly vague. One specific material, oxygen, is always involved.
(3) Evolution of heat. I don't know what this is supposed to mean either.
(4) Usually accompanied by flame. "Usually accompanied by" my arse. Flame is the quintessential pyrolytic phenomenon, not a mere by-product.
Now for a proper definition, devised by myself: "Fire is the rapid combination of oxygen with fuel in the presence of heat, typically characterized by flame, a body of incandescent gas that contains and sustains the reaction and emits light and heat." Let's go through this bit by bit:
(1) Rapid combination of oxygen with fuel in the presence of heat. Oxygen, fuel, and heat are the essential ingredients of fire.
(2) Typically characterized by flame. The pup qualifier "typically" allows me to sidestep the issue of apparently nonflaming fires, like you get with burning charcoal. I suspect charcoal fires do create flame--you just can't see it due to the lack of impurities or incompletely burned fuel in the plume. (You can't see a fuel fire at an Indy or CART race either, because the cars run on clean-burning methanol.) But that's a matter we can leave for another day.
(3) Body of incandescent gas. Flame defined. Most encyclopedia and dictionary definitions blow past this entirely, allowing persons such as yourself to imagine that fire is "pure energy" or similar nonsense. We say "body" because the gas has a characteristic structure and composition. We say "incandescent" because (a) it sounds scientific, (b) it means "luminous with intense heat," precisely what we are attempting to convey, and (c) if the Teeming Millions are going to learn one vocabulary word today, by God "incandescent" should be it.
(4) Contains and sustains the reaction. Flame isn't just the result of fire; it is the fire. What's more, without the flame's heat the fire would go out.
(5) Emits light and heat. Duh. However, we mustn't overlook the obvious.
Now to your other questions:

  • Is fire purely energy? Clearly not. The dancing flames are glowing gas--your suspicions confirmed.

  • Can fire be ionized? Is it affected by magnetism? Not so's you'd notice. You're thinking of plasma, which is ionized (and thus electromagnetically reactive) gas, often described as the fourth state of matter. You see it in welding arcs, lightning bolts, and the sun. Ordinary fire isn't plasma.

  • Is fire affected by gravity? Of course--gas has mass. Flame is shaped by convection, a function of gravity (hot air rises). In low- or zero-G environments, fire looks way different: a candle flame on the space shuttle isn't yellow and tapered but blue and nearly spherical.
So there you have it. One step closer to a better world.
— Cecil Adams
 

bigslama912

Well-Known Member
First off, I'm superbaked right now.:-P
I was thinking....No, I was deep thinking. You know... that place you get to when you're totally couch locked.
Anyways I'm comin down right and I'm losing my train of thought.
What the hell is fire? Where does is come from?
I know how fire works, the process and all.
But once the flames begin, and all the colors...
Some reddish, and orangish, and blue, white...
You know what I mean?
If not, it's all good...right?
Well, I think it's about that time for me to go back into my special place.:-P

To be continued...

I'll smoke to that. haha
 

BongJuice

Well-Known Member
I must of been superbaked when I started this thread, cuz I hardly remember.
I'm not baked now, I'm kinda buzzed, but I very well could use puff or two

I'll be right back.....

I'm back...and,
I'm very, very stoned........about 5 minutes goes by........
yepp. I'm still stoned.
Yea, this shit I'm smokin. It's some shit I grew last summer. That's a funny story.
I sorta quit smokin/growin last spring.
Well I went 2 months with no smoke, and honestly...it sucked. I felt like as if my dog was killed or something.
I don't know, just tryin to express how much I missed weed and how it affected me without it. 2 words...It sucked.
Anyways, I made a phone call.
In 10 minutes I had a hook up for a bag......Under 1 condition.
I take his 2 plants which he totally neglected for weeks. 1 was practically dead and the other was sick with a
bunch of broken branches.
He knew I used to grow, so he asked me to take his plants off his hands because he was having trouble with
his girlfriend and he didn't want to take any chances.
So I did, and I had my bag of weed.
Wow.....even though it was ghetto style seedy schwagg dirt weed. I rolled that shit in a philly and that was the best blunt I had
in a looooooong time. I hacked my balls off. But it was heaven.
Anyways goin back to the plants.
The almost dead one, I ended up taking a cutting off of it, throwing a shit load of hormone on it, stuck it
a humidome for 3 weeks.
The other one, I babied the shit out of it. I ended up putting it outside because it was growing so beautifully.
It ended up a 100% fucken male, I soooooooo disappointed.
The cutting I took was growing so nice, mostly because I was giving lots of TLC.
After 4 months
It ended up yielding me about 2 z's. The smoke is soooo smooth.
One bong hit....That's all it takes for this shit.

Anyways, the guy that gave me the plants.
I gave him a slice.
 

RavenMochi

Well-Known Member
Fire is fun, pure fucking destructive fun put on this earth to play with... :fire: †LOL† Yea, I was a pyro growing up...still am, but now I'm not practicing... :cry:
 

RavenMochi

Well-Known Member
I must of been superbaked when I started this thread, cuz I hardly remember.
I'm not baked now, I'm kinda buzzed, but I very well could use puff or two

I'll be right back.....

I'm back...and,
I'm very, very stoned........about 5 minutes goes by........
yepp. I'm still stoned.
Yea, this shit I'm smokin. It's some shit I grew last summer. That's a funny story.
I sorta quit smokin/growin last spring.
Well I went 2 months with no smoke, and honestly...it sucked. I felt like as if my dog was killed or something.
I don't know, just tryin to express how much I missed weed and how it affected me without it. 2 words...It sucked.
Anyways, I made a phone call.
In 10 minutes I had a hook up for a bag......Under 1 condition.
I take his 2 plants which he totally neglected for weeks. 1 was practically dead and the other was sick with a
bunch of broken branches.
He knew I used to grow, so he asked me to take his plants off his hands because he was having trouble with
his girlfriend and he didn't want to take any chances.
So I did, and I had my bag of weed.
Wow.....even though it was ghetto style seedy schwagg dirt weed. I rolled that shit in a philly and that was the best blunt I had
in a looooooong time. I hacked my balls off. But it was heaven.
Anyways goin back to the plants.
The almost dead one, I ended up taking a cutting off of it, throwing a shit load of hormone on it, stuck it
a humidome for 3 weeks.
The other one, I babied the shit out of it. I ended up putting it outside because it was growing so beautifully.
It ended up a 100% fucken male, I soooooooo disappointed.
The cutting I took was growing so nice, mostly because I was giving lots of TLC.
After 4 months
It ended up yielding me about 2 z's. The smoke is soooo smooth.
One bong hit....That's all it takes for this shit.

Anyways, the guy that gave me the plants.
I gave him a slice.
Hell ya! thats what I'm talking about, mutually beneficial assistance...yea, I'm baked to...first time in a week....gone I love smoking when my tolerance is low..:eyesmoke:.Yea, when I first moved to this town I went a solid fucking month not being able to find a connect, so I understand, I assure you...
 

RavenMochi

Well-Known Member
fire is pure fucking fun
when you get it as hot as the sun
you can melt down a house
while getting high with a mouse
and if it blows up get ready to run....

and when you think your all done
burning the shit out of everyone
you've noticed your blunt
is out like a cunt,
roll up another until you have none....


No, it makes no sense...but I do so love fire, and I am so fucking baked and toasty....:eyesmoke:
 

jhopkins34

Active Member
the color also comes from what is being burned, you can get almost any color flame just have to have the right fuel for it
 

Dirty Harry

Well-Known Member
Fire is fun, pure fucking destructive fun put on this earth to play with... :fire: †LOL† Yea, I was a pyro growing up...still am, but now I'm not practicing... :cry:
I hear ya! I was the same way when I was young. Now I still am a Pyro but with fireworks. I have wired and wireless shooter controls and I just sit as "launch control" and press buttons.
Fire is like a paint base, and the chemicals added gives the colors. Fireworks are my paints and the night sky is my canvas.
 
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