I have a question for everyone, or anyone...lol

missnu

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Ok,

I got a feminized Amnesia Haze seed and I have planted it and it has the first little leaves and then it got the next 2 leaves and everything is a good color and what not, but suddenly the main leaves are pointing straight up, I think this is caused by too much heat, so I have moved my light a little farther away, because while it is a CFL it gets really hot and has burnt other plants. It's a 250 watt monster of a CFl...not a 250 watt equivalent either...anyway so do you guys (gals) think this might fix my problem...oh, and can I start using nutes at like 1/8 strength...I think I might be getting ahead of myself but in getting the hydro setup ready I added a dash...I think I might change out the water and not add any nutes at all, since I read that this particular plant is a light feeder...or should I leave what I have and not add more...? I am torn...lol. Anyway this isn't the first time I have grown, but it is my first real deal as the others were kinda like practice runs with bagseeds, anyway just let me know whatcha think. I will post a pic in a few...Hopefully that pic will be there
 

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missnu

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wow...I feel so unloved...I know the thing says I am a stranger, but really I don't think I'm all that strange....lol.
 

mouthmeetsoap

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That's a small pic, but when seedlings are that young and the leaves are still that small, they tend to stick straight up. I wouldn't be worried about unless that cfl is like one inch away.
 

missnu

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Thank you guys! It is still pointing up but I'm just going to let it point up...lol. I am sure it will all be ok. I just can't wait til it is ready to go into the DWC bucket. Uggh the waiting!
 

BackToBasics

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for heat you should have the light about 8-10 inches away from the plant, somtimes too much light can kill the plant
i wouldnt add any fert till the plant has a couple more fan leaves, because you can burn the roots and kill it.
 

missnu

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Well,

I put a coupl drops of nutes in the bucket, but the plant won't be ready to move into the bucket for another week or so...I start the seed in coco grow and when it gets a couple inches then I move it into the DWC...but I am just not so sure about this plant...the cotyledons are now turning yellow, and one has a definite burnt look to it, and the leaves are still pointing up, but they still look good, the roots are growing alright, but the actual plant part hasn't grown a bit, but I think that is normal...Damn time lapse vidoes on youtube...lol. I watch those vids and then look at my plant and I always feel like it isn't doing enough....but it just can out of the ground like 3-4 days ago...although it did grow kinda strange...when it first dropped it's seed shell it had the cotyledons and then 2 normal leaves crossways right with it...so it started with the cotyledons and the 2 actual leaves from the first day...while not abnormal it just hasn't happened with any other plants I have planted yet...anyway just worrying myself about this little girlie...I am bothered by what looks like absolutely no growth, but like I said the roots are growing so there is growth, but I woudl be so much happier if some more leaves would come in already! Sheesh! doesn't this plant know that when I look at it 12 times a day I am expecting a change...?! Anyway enough rambling and uselessness for this morning...
 

r3dn3ck

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I'm not seeing a problem... move the light far enough away that you don't feel the heat on the back of your hand at the height of the top of the plant. A bigger pic may be helpful. Can't really see much detail on the leaves.
 

missnu

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Well,

The cotyledons are dying and the rest isn't growing at all...our well water is perfect ph, and I haven't used any nutes yet, but it is sure starting to look like this tiny non fertilized plant has nute burn. Could it be that there is something in our well water itself that is making the plant do poorly? I don't know but imma get a few gallons of bottled water and see if that helps. I'll try to post some larger pics at some point. I really really hope that I can get this plant set right. Poor plant!!! Oh and another side not kinda question, I dropped the other day and since it is in coco it just fell out, could the trauma of being essentially transplanted at 3-4 days out of ground have caused these issues ya think? I don't know but weird to have nute burn with no nutes...at first I thought it was just getting too hot, but like I said the cotyledons are yellow and dying. Anyway again I cease my rambling for now...
 

missnu

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As of today the next set of leaves are actually starting to grow and the main leaves and what not look nice and green, although they are still sticking up, less so since moving the light, but the cotyledons are yellowing more and more, I know they don't really matter all that much and are supposed to fall off, I just thought it was too soon for it to happen, but oh well. I'll just keep chugging along and hope it all turns out alright. Thanks again to everyone that replied, and to those that viewed and didn't say anything "fine then..." lol.
 

3lions

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Its normal, really. cotyledons will die as soon as they have done their job which is in essence once you have the first set of leaves :-) I always want my plants pointing upwards, the way I grow anyway, when they are like that I consider them bang in tune and a great guide for when to water etc
 

missnu

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As of today the leaves have assumed a normal angle, but this plant is growing so slow! And it looks like it is still getting some sort of nute burn...The tips of the leaves are very slowly yellowing, which I know will continue until the leaves die...I really need to get some bottled water....lol. How lazy am I that I still haven't gotten any bottled water...
 

3lions

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You dont need bottled water particularly, just the right ph which is vital. Also let the water stand for 12 hours or so first for the things like chlorine to dissipate :-)
 

cj7420

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I really need to get some bottled water....lol. How lazy am I that I still haven't gotten any bottled water...
what i do is go down to my city recycle center ( the ones who pick up your garbage and recycling ) and get the free 1 gallon " oil jug " they offer. They look the same as a 1 gallon milk or water jug, they have a screw on top only difference is the plastic is a thicker ply. The one's i got from them are brand new, But i will give them a really good once over and a cleaning.
After that i use a Brita water filter http://www.brita.com/?locale=us ( any walmart, target ect has them) I will fill the jugs up a head of time. i never add any nutes because you never know what tomorrow may bring. i just check the PH and keep them in a dark area so they will stay at room temp. ( its said cold water has the same effect on a plants roots as it does with certain part of a mans body ) i will check the PH and add nutes as needed just before watering. just an idea so you dont have to always leave your house to buy filtered water.
 

3lions

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I have never used in ten years+ bottled water, always tap water. And check the ph after adding any nutes, not before ;-)
 

cj7420

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I have never used in ten years+ bottled water, always tap water. And check the ph after adding any nutes, not before ;-)
You are right Lions. But with tap water you local water district or water company will add or can add things like chlorine and fluoride. not even to mention whats in your pipes after years of use I.E Rust being one of the bigger ones.

Missnu said he use's well water which in most cases is 100% non filtered, Wells can be affected by numerous bacteria causing sources. From decaying organic matter to animals defecating in the water supply, from lawn fertilizers to septic tanks, wells are completely vulnerable to contamination.

There is no real winner between the 2. but if im going to spend the money to do things right. i might as well start from the ground up

Missnu also Well water is notorious for high levels of nitrogen, iron, sulfur, lead and calcium or magnesium. you dont even want to know the filters we had on the ranch i lived on to battle whatever is in well water.
 

3lions

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Well many of those microbes will be useful to the plant anyway to be fair. High Chlorine not so much but it soon disappears. Rain water is also great.

Always think back to nature, if it works in nature it will work fine for your own grow, as far as I know there is no filtered water naturally. Just common sense really. Personally I think buying water is unwarranted and unneeded cost and of no benefit to 99% of people. As with CJ above tho there are always exceptions and maybe they have water that wouldn't even be fit to drink yourself.

If you are going to spend another few hundred per grow on water then its clearly better to buy a reverse osmosis or good filtering system to stick on your own taps at home as to lining the pockets of water thieves, who sell to paranoid folks and keep wrecking the planet adding more plastic bottles. :-)
 

missnu

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You dont need bottled water particularly, just the right ph which is vital. Also let the water stand for 12 hours or so first for the things like chlorine to dissipate :-)
Well, the ph is perfect, and we have well water, so no chlorine...and yet the plant shows signs of nute burn, so I assume the ppm of our well water might just be too high.... It is off of an underground spring, so a lot of silt and such. Going to try the bottled water
 

missnu

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Our well water is pretty bad, by that I mean the at home filter systems end up costing too much in filters...they get clogged too soon...lol. The outside filter that you're supposed to change once every 6 months, we have to change every month and a half or the washing machine hose gets clogged with silt. I am pretty sure there is too much iron for one, who knows what else...so for me bottled water would actually be cheaper.
 
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