HOLY FUCKIN CRAP!! (please help me)

[TheAngryLiberal]

I just made a humic acid concentrate using 8 oz of water soluble humic acid and mixed slightly less than 1 oz to 1 gallon of water plus my big bloom. I am about to water my week old seedlings with it because the directions say I can. I can't find any other info, someone please tell me if I shouldn't do this. Thanks.

 

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seedlings do not need anything but water. dont do it.

one of the most common things with new growers do wrong is over ferting

do not feed until there is at least two sets of normal leaves. and even then i wouldn't i usually wait until i start flowering to nute them but i only veg for a week and the soil i use doesnt have that much nutes in it. it all depends on what your set up is. soil, plant vigor or growth, veg time ect. all have an impact on when you should nute.

 

[reggaerican]

i secont that dont do it!!!

 

[boati]

Real good advice from the 2 above.DONT!

 

[TheAngryLiberal]

are you guys sure anyone have exp with humic acid? I've been researching and hear its really good for tomato seedlings, the concentration I have is even less than the amound for seedlings on the instructions and its not really a nute per se.

 

[withoutAchance]

fuckin do it then hummer all night long

 

[DST]

Humic acid and mycorrhizae are beneficial to plants root system. Bottom line, they enable nutrients to be delivered to the root and subsequently enable the plant to become sturdier, stronger, and less immune to problems, all comes down to nutrients being chelated easier. However, saying that, I would give your plant a bit of a chance before adding these elements to your grow. Like the other guys have said, wait until you have developed at least 2 sets of true leaves!

 

[stickybob]

id only use a very weak formulex and rhizotonic solution when you get some more leaves, its more about root building in the early stages, good roots, good plants

 

[Total Head]

while big bloom is not very concentrated and can be used throughout the whole grow, a week old might be a bit early. but stop listening to generic "overfert" info. big bloom is not so much a "fert" as it is a soil conditioner. it's not going to burn anything and can be used on young plants. that being said, you still want your root system to be somewhat established before you add things to the soil. i would personally wait a week unless you have multiple plants or your plant is freakishly vigorous. the humic acid and big bloom should be a nice combo.

 

[Hudsonvalley82]

Dude, wait until you transplant for all that crap, get roots first, then feed them. Not the other way around. When you dig out you hole for transplant, sprinkle some mycorrhizae in there, as well as mix it throughout the soil. Then hit everything with some humic acid, and a tablespoon of molasses per gallon. That should set everything off well enough. Seedlings are best left to their own devices IMHO.

Also, although its too late now, I use a smaller pot (8oz cup) for my seedlings, usually transplant in 10 days from seed when the roots just start to push against the cup, then they explode with all the new room, the nutes, and the mycorrs. Again, that is just me, there are a million roads to the same destination.

 

[TheAngryLiberal]

so I should use microbes first? when should I start using that?

 

[Hudsonvalley82]

You could use them mixed in the starting soil (which is best to do prior to adding seed), there are liquid versions, however it is best to wait until transplant, cuz those microbes need food to and will need the molasses and nutes to thrive. In turn they make easily absorbed nutrients for your plants. Most microbe granules come with some fertilizer as well to feed the critters. I'd just wait until the transplant, and although I may get yelled at, I would take them out of those pots during the transplant, I know they say to plant them directly in the soil, they are still an obstacle never the less. Give it a week until the roots hold on to the soil better. If the plants look like they need nutes, give them a VERY diluted feeding, and only if it is a last resort. Wait for the plants to tell you what to do.

 

[cindysid]

I have to disagree with those who maintain that humic acid is not beneficial, much less damaging. I would also recommend that you do some research. Not to be a smarty pants, (yeah, I'm a chick), but humic acid improves germination and produces more viable seedlings. It helps produce strong root systems and overall plant health. If you haven't tried it, you should. It is not a fertilizer, but when you do add nutes it will the plant absorb and use them. Definitely do not use the Bloom though. With the humic acid, you shouldn't need it until at least 2nd leaves.

 

[43Hitman]

I have to disagree with those who maintain that humic acid is not beneficial, much less damaging. I would also recommend that you do some research. Not to be a smarty pants, (yeah, I'm a chick), but humic acid improves germination and produces more viable seedlings. It helps produce strong root systems and overall plant health. If you haven't tried it, you should. It is not a fertilizer, but when you do add nutes it will the plant absorb and use them. Definitely do not use the Bloom though. With the humic acid, you shouldn't need it until at least 2nd leaves.

Good info Cindy, I'll definitely have to do some research into humic acid. +rep

 

[TheAngryLiberal]

yeah I think cindy is right i did the humic acid anyway and the seemed to respond well, definitely didn't hurt them.

 

[KuLong]

I use seaweed for germination and seed (root) growth.