Anyone make $$$ at Casino's?
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thedoc08
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Yup, that's where I started out live, and when I drive from NY to Florida to play at the softest poker room in the world (Gulfstream Park) I make more money at 2/5 nl than 10/25 nl because the game is exponentially softer. I think it has something to do with the wealth to old age ratio in South Florida (old people that are about to die with a lot of money, but don't have anything to do because they're old and slow so they like sitting for long periods of time socially interacting with other players). I was playing 2/5 for a night with a guy on my immediate let that had recently purcahsed a 2010 Ferarri California, and just had so much love for the game that he was determined to start at the low limits and work his way up, rather than sitting down at a 25/50 nl and getting his dick smashed. He wasn't too bad, but his biggest leak was giving too much credit to TPGK without looking at board texture, and I stacked him a few times.
every single game in the casino is designed to give the house an edge.
the only game that the player can actively manipulate the edge is Blackjack.
other than that, every game in the casino is designed to make you loose money, and more often than not, that's what happens.
the only game that the player can actively manipulate the edge is Blackjack.
other than that, every game in the casino is designed to make you loose money, and more often than not, that's what happens.
thedoc08
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Yeah, saw the movie 21, but that's card counting, I think MIT also developed a strategy to beat blackjack without counting cards, or at least reduce the house edge to 0.
Timmy22
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Man you guys know your shit! Ive tried counting while I was just watching a buddy play. Its not easy. Im sure with alot of practice it would be like second nature like basic strategy is to a player. Even if I could I dont think I would have the balls to actually sit down, play and do it.
cliffey501
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I dont think I made it up.I was introduced to this by a friend.And whats with all the hostility Im just giving the dude some betting strategies.All you have had to offer was a bunch of flaming.You need to get a life friend.Your not as smart as you think you are.
i start with a bankroll of 600
Thats American roulette.European Roulette is 2.7%
Ths dependant on a number of factors IE cards left in the deck,how many decks are used, last shuffle, number of players at the table.
Thats partly right Except it would happen 1 in every 47 sets of 6 not 1 in every 47 spins.so lets say you get by with 20 sets of 6 6wins at 100$ =600x20 sets =12000 so long before your luck runs out you should run.I use this system till i build a buffer and then I gamble.Ive never came out in the Red and thats a fact.
thedoc08
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Yes in the movie, MIT card counted, but I believe one of their game theorists also developed a system to play without card counting that reduced the house edge to 0, if not swing it in the players favor.
As for the other tard that keeps posting with a $600 bankroll, please tell me what your initial bet is with the Martingale system, and I will tell you the mean day or turnover that you will go broke.
thedoc08
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Martingale is a proven bad strategy. That's like my friend asking me how to drive, and I say floor it on the left side of the road (this is a real country [America] and we drive on the right side of the road). When you're trying to insult someone's intelligence, you should make sure not to confuse "your" and "you're." If you want to cry in the corner because I highlighted the faults of a proven awful gambling strategy that you walk around thinking your a genius and the only person to have thought of it, and call it "flaming," go for it. I still want you to get in a car accident where you lose arms so you can't place bets anymore.
Moving on.
You start with a bankroll of $600, and I'm assuming you start your bets at 1$, you only need an effective bankroll of $512. This gives you 10 bets. I don't feel like having this simulated, but I still think you go broke on average before you are able to have a 7th bet.
No, it is completely irrelevant of any of those factors. That is just the house edge in Blackjack. I forget what the statistics law is called, but it has to do with as numbers increase they will get closer to the statistical expectation. Sure those factors might change the short term payout, but has nothing to do with the standardized house edge in Blackjack.
In all honesty, with your gambling strategies that you try to pass off as successful, I highly doubt you've ever left a casino with more money than you came with, but don't worry, you'll get em next time.
Just remember....Martingale, Martingale, Martingale. Don't forget to chant that while you're at the table, and hopefully someone gets a laugh.
damn sounds like some of you really know what you're doing..especially the doc...
i love blackjack and i know how to play. i like to play for fun, all the other shit just makes my head hurt. when i go to a casino i'm not trying to make a living (of course i'm trying to win money tho)..but i love to drink at the table after burning fat ass blunts in my car in the parking lot or the room and play blackjack..yelling at hte dealer and having a blast. if i lose, i just figure that i paid that much for the entertainment.
i love blackjack and i know how to play. i like to play for fun, all the other shit just makes my head hurt. when i go to a casino i'm not trying to make a living (of course i'm trying to win money tho)..but i love to drink at the table after burning fat ass blunts in my car in the parking lot or the room and play blackjack..yelling at hte dealer and having a blast. if i lose, i just figure that i paid that much for the entertainment.
the only way to win at blackjack is:
1) pure luck
2) counting cards
there's no method. card counting in blackjack has been the same since the method was invented.
MIT kids invented computers to calculate odds, because the calculations are so complicated even MIT nerds can't do them all in their head before the game goes round the table.
and as far as roulette goes, the only way you can expect to win big in roulette is if you start with about 500 in cash, and you still need a lot of luck.
and i can't say this enough. casinos make money b/c they have the edge.
people who try to skew that edge in their favor end up roughed up, on a 'no-enter' list on all casinos, or broke.....
if you want to play at a casino, and really enjoy your time and not loose your hair, enter expecting to loose every dollar you put down on a table...
other than that, expecting to make yourself rich at a casino is not a smart idea, because more often than not, it's not gonna happen....
1) pure luck
2) counting cards
there's no method. card counting in blackjack has been the same since the method was invented.
MIT kids invented computers to calculate odds, because the calculations are so complicated even MIT nerds can't do them all in their head before the game goes round the table.
and as far as roulette goes, the only way you can expect to win big in roulette is if you start with about 500 in cash, and you still need a lot of luck.
and i can't say this enough. casinos make money b/c they have the edge.
people who try to skew that edge in their favor end up roughed up, on a 'no-enter' list on all casinos, or broke.....
if you want to play at a casino, and really enjoy your time and not loose your hair, enter expecting to loose every dollar you put down on a table...
other than that, expecting to make yourself rich at a casino is not a smart idea, because more often than not, it's not gonna happen....
thedoc08
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I stand corrected, MIT did not develop a system to swing the edge in favor of the player without card counting. I'm not sure if they did or did not develop this system for optimal play, which should reduce the house edge to .02% to .05%, from 5% with woman strategy, or 1.5% with typical strategy, or .5% with basic strategy.
Timmy22
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I know Smuggler! I was thinking about going over to the casino later on this morning. Ive never actually went down to the poker room and played at the casino but I would like to give it a try. I would probably just be easy picken's for those guys over there, but would like to try it nonetheless.
Basic strategy with a count is the only way you can get odds in your favour, but still they're only odds, it's always going to b e gambling.I stand corrected, MIT did not develop a system to swing the edge in favor of the player without card counting. I'm not sure if they did or did not develop this system for optimal play, which should reduce the house edge to .02% to .05%, from 5% with woman strategy, or 1.5% with typical strategy, or .5% with basic strategy.
And to the guy who said card counting has always been the same, it hasn't. There are many, many techniques and theories.
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