The Art of The Auto

fonzirelli

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so 3'x3'x5'-250 watts cfl?? been tryin to figure it out in lumens but i keep changing my mind everyday and now not sure exactly what to do...just a square meter is all ive decided on so far. and cfls to start with...
 
Closer to harvest. First PJ has fattened up pretty well and leaves are turning yellow. Close-up of the trichs still seem to be a bit clear. I am wanting to harvest before they start turning amber (no couch lock wanted) but not sure if these are cloudy enough (newbie). Thoughts?
 

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FullDuplex

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so 3'x3'x5'-250 watts cfl?? been tryin to figure it out in lumens but i keep changing my mind everyday and now not sure exactly what to do...just a square meter is all ive decided on so far. and cfls to start with...
Im using a 250 HPS in that kind of area i havent used cfl's in quite some time. If you have the same space as i do that 250 will do wonders in there.
 

FullDuplex

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Closer to harvest. First PJ has fattened up pretty well and leaves are turning yellow. Close-up of the trichs still seem to be a bit clear. I am wanting to harvest before they start turning amber (no couch lock wanted) but not sure if these are cloudy enough (newbie). Thoughts?
Very nice Hydrolenny, nice shade of color you have there as well as size.
All i can say is that im jealous on this one.

As far as your trics go she is actually looking more cloudy to me than clear

Mossy would be a way better reference on this than me.
I just taste them till they are where i want them :)

Have you sampled her yet?
 

Bighill

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Lenny, they are looking cloudy to me mate.

Fonz, you will end up with the hid lights :D. It's about light intensity, lumens only tell one side of the story. A more intense light source is going to have more penetration power. Meaning you'll have more dense buds with a hid (mh/hps) light. Think of it like this, I bet you can't even look at a 250 NEAR as long as you could a cfl bulb. That is intensity.
I used to use those 125 watt CFL bulbs to veg with, i ended up with a 400 HM for vegging. In the end your need will drive what direction you end up, as it's a pain to cool small spaces with hid lights. Light is only good if it doesn't cook em :D

Thought i'd throw in my 2 cents.. FD this thread is mega now.. Climbs by the thousands. muhahahah
 

lowrdr

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i use the 250w cfl's and they are great if you dont have much head room as they dont run hot and u can have the plants close. but when the buds dry out they end up pretty airy even when dense on the plant. if i had the head room i would go hps for sure, the results cannot be matched
 

Endorium

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Pruned out the plant a bit in top. st over head shot I could and a shot of one the the more advanced stem's.
Any idea if I should trim more? Dont want to ver trim but want best result from the plant :)
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mossys

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All i can say is that im jealous on this one.
Me too...I'd love a sniff.
As far as your trics go she is actually looking more cloudy to me than clear
to me too.

Also..that yellowing fan leaf says to me she is ripe.
I Would def test..
also go and give her a little Bud squeeze..with your finger and thumb Pad..
not nipping..
see what she smells like..
she should smell nice and rounded..ripe.

Love the colour and build

Seems like a long time coming and a lot of work to get to this point!
Next time will be better.
The first time you are worried incase you do anything wrong..second will be a doddle coz you will feel more confident...

FD this thread is mega now.. Climbs by the thousands. muhahahah
I Think he has the AF Forum in his own thread....:leaf:

lowrdr...m8...
I saw those girls you posted.....Man..I don't know how you think you are gonna grow more and be able to Resist them...:bigjoint:
You must have some Hellish will-power.
 

lowrdr

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lowrdr...m8...
I saw those girls you posted.....Man..I don't know how you think you are gonna grow more and be able to Resist them...:bigjoint:
You must have some Hellish will-power.
lol i have been wondering this myself mate, but i have super-human willpower, i shall let u know how it goes ;)
 

John Mondello

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Artistic? ok... hats an odd quesion utta da blue! lol I think for most its more about DTH (Days to Harvest) and dwarf size (for closets) and not having to carry a veg room (saving even more space). However, if you wanna wax art... we've got that too.... have you seen some of the little "bonzai christmas trees" resulting from autos in this forum? Not to mention, these gentics allow high-speed breeding for medicinal and research. High speed breeding is key... this drastically reduces STS (Start-to-Seed) time.

If you're really opposed to autos.... dont grow em... lol
 

John Mondello

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Closer to harvest. First PJ has fattened up pretty well and leaves are turning yellow. Close-up of the trichs still seem to be a bit clear. I am wanting to harvest before they start turning amber (no couch lock wanted) but not sure if these are cloudy enough (newbie). Thoughts?

everything I've read and studied says if you go beyond 50% cloudy you're heading in the couchlock direction... those look 100% cloudy but not amber yet to me. I'd say chop her lil ass off. I did some experimentation this fall with cloudiness and same strian... I found the cleanest, least couchlock high without compromising thc content was when the trics were 50% cloudy as I've read... I'd say its time.

J
 

teflondummy

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Well the title of the thread is "the art of the auto". Whats the art?
Art is about using your medium to it's best effect. In other words produce something aesthetically pleasing that speaks to the soul. most of us can agree that gardening is an art form. Different mediums require different talents and techniques. For example oil paints and water colors are worked onto the canvas differently.
 
everything I've read and studied says if you go beyond 50% cloudy you're heading in the couchlock direction... those look 100% cloudy but not amber yet to me. I'd say chop her lil ass off. I did some experimentation this fall with cloudiness and same strian... I found the cleanest, least couchlock high without compromising thc content was when the trics were 50% cloudy as I've read... I'd say its time.

J
Yeah, looks like per feedback that it's time! Well, I'll clean her up tonight, take a few final pics, and chop her down!

Now, I still have one more PJ that is about a week behind. She's a green PJ and turned into a small shrub, but I'll chop her in a few days as well (couple days earlier than my purple one).
 
Me too...I'd love a sniff.

to me too.

Also..that yellowing fan leaf says to me she is ripe.
I Would def test..
also go and give her a little Bud squeeze..with your finger and thumb Pad..
not nipping..
see what she smells like..
she should smell nice and rounded..ripe.

Love the colour and build


Next time will be better.
The first time you are worried incase you do anything wrong..second will be a doddle coz you will feel more confident...
Thanks for the feedback Mossy! Appreciate the props on the grow! Been a fun ride! And, you are right. Next time will prob be a breeze,
 
I still have not gotten an answer. What is so artistic about growing autos?
Why are you trying to be an @$$?

My stealth perpetual grow consists of ONE 36x18x24 cab with ONE 150w HPS and I crop out at 3/4 - 1 1/4 oz on average every 2 weeks (sometimes 3 or 4 weeks if a pheno takes longer than expected to finish flowering) after altering some of my techniques to follow FDs after lurking this thread for months..... Pretty artistic IMO.

This is all done w/ 3 strains so far, PJ, Blue Himalaya Diesel and mi5.

Autos allow me to veg and flower in the same cab, keep space required to an absolute minimum and still provide myself with a constant supply of very high grade meds.
 
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