The Art of The Auto

b.R.

b.R.

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thanks alot for the compliment and the help FULL DUPLEX. I ph adjusted my water and gave her 2tblspns of big bloom on the feeding and by the next morning she perked right up and grew about an inch and turned back to that lovely green we all strive for...
 
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ROLLUPKUSH

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Bighill said:
Since i see alot of people asking about soil mixes, this is what i use on my autos on the regular and for the most part i don't have to add many fancy ferts to the waterings. Aside from the boosters.

all mixes are assuming you are using a 2gal pot/bag to grow in. I also mix everything in a 80L tupperware before i put them in the bags. Soo.

Into your 80 liter / mixing container. I usually get to fill 10 bags with the soil i mix, so adjust your accordingly.

1) I put Half full of base medium, you can use coco/peat/compost what ever. I usually use a peat based product, as money only alows so much some times.
2) I will add 10/15 cups of sheep manuer. People use chicken.. Some one told me it makes your buds sweater.. dunno, but i use it. Do some reading on what you are going to add for manuer some take longer to break down.
3) If i have welcome harvest grow on hand, i add about 10 cups. About 1 cup per gallon of soil for your container. IF i have no welcome harvest i'll put in 5 or 6 more cups of sheep.
4) I try to put in about 10/15 cups of blood and bone meal, so for me i put in a half box of the stuff. Autos go into bud so soon you want your soil to be a bit heavy on the flower addatives.
5) If you have rock phosphate, this is a good time to add about 5 cups to your container. Round about 1/4 to 1/2 cup per 2/gal.
6) I'll usually add in a good bit of perlite, couldn't tell you how much, but you want enough that your soil isn't going to compact. Air pockets in the soil are KEY
7) I fill the rest in with worm castings. This stuff is the magic. It brings in microlife, micro nutes and all sorts of good stuff for the soil. Which is why it is called a natural chleating agent.
8) 1 tbs per gal of dolomimtic lime.. Crushed pls :D

If you can find GREEN SAND... this stuff is good too. 1 cup per gal.. ALSO!!! i almost forgot.. the kelp!!! i swear by this shit. 2 to 3 cups per 2 gal bag... I Love my kelp.. Roids i swear.. Even in teas... good good good.

ANYTHING that had a OMRI rating on the bottle is safe to water to an organic media. Charcole from a fire is good for flower nutes, high in PK.. Don't know what ratios tho.. sorry.. google :D


That is the base of what i grow in, some plants need you to bubble some manuer with your molasis/comp teas but for the most part you can get by with that. Plants that are heavy on cal/mag you'll need to do that yourself, epsom salt watered has worked for me. Cal/mag from botanicare is ok on micro life. Not the + one.

Also a good idea to let this sit for a week, and turn at 3 days. You want to get the microlife going in there before you plant into it. You can burn plants when you plant into orgaincs that hasn't been colonized yet. The build up is alot for a plant.
Don't plant seedlings into this.. 14 dayers at least. Or your going to grow a bunch of males.

I water with rain water when ever i can, whe it's dry i am on a RO system. I don't PH my water.. Don't even look at it unmless one is looking off. Hasn't failed me yet. Pure clean burnign goodness that STINKS!!!!!!! Organic buds have a certain pungentness to them.

There is room to move on the amounts, i haven't burnt a plant yet doing this. Have been able to up the flower addatives pretty good with no adverse affects. Even adding the bone meal to my teas durring flower.
Bh.
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can we get this n a wayyy smaller ratio??.. GOOD STUFF MAN~
 
b.R.

b.R.

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teflondummy said:
I was thinking about going with blue Himalaya when I order again. They do look nice b.R.
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i will keep posting pics every week so as that everyone can keep an eye on em if they are interested. thanks for checkin it out teflon and everyone else who peeped it....
 
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Endorium

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Posted several stages of my plants on this sticky. Mine is a hydro setup and going very well.
One thing I must ask though......I am about 8 days into flowering and they are doing great. I have a 250w cfl 2700k light with reflactor and a 90w LED UFO light. Does that ound sufficient for a small space and 3 plants?
Would love to get an oz of each plant and dont want the light to stop it reaching that.

Only problem I found with Autos is that they grow so quick and fill my space very quickly!!My grow is literally busting to get out!! God bless Auto's!!
 
Bighill

Bighill

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can we get this n a wayyy smaller ratio??.. GOOD STUFF MAN~
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Yeah i realise that was all over the place. Didn't have much time. I was just putting that together off the top of my head, i don't have it written down.

I will break it down for a 2 gal grow bag. Since that is what i use more often than not. There are 3.7 liters per 1 Gal, for anyone who is on a different measurement.


-1 gal grow medium (Peat/coco/Home Compost)
-2 cups sheep mauer (Or 2 cups "welcome harvest grow" not a poo product) For N heavy autos i'll put in 3 cups per grow bag, i have gone higher in some mixes.
-3 cups kelp. I use the dry mix that "Welcome Harvest Farms" sells. For soil mixes
-2 Tbs Dolomitic lime.
-3 cups Blood/Bone meal. You can get it just about anyware.
-Add a splash of perlite to lighten the mix up, say 3 to 4 cups? Nothing says you cannot add more/less. If your base medium has it allready you may not need much
-Fill the rest with Worm Castings.

There are plenty of other things you can add, and i do when they are around to use. I try to get as many different micro nutes for the soil life to feed on as i can.
Recently my wife bought some "apple waffers" for the horse. There is copper/alphalfa/Iron/Molasis... More than i can remember off the top of my head. I am planning on grinding a few up, to "add" to a mix.


Hate to fill in another page with the same info...
Thought this might be easier to work with.

The thing to remeber with organics is you aren't feeding your plant, you are feeding the micro life in the soil. When they feed it breaks down the "food" into parts the plant can actually use (Chleating agents).

It's all big talk but really it's just lazy mans growing.. Put'er all in compo the shit and water..
The best part is you can reuse this mix, put your trim back into the 80L rubbermaid with the root balls, let sit for a few weeks. And your good to go again, nothing to "dispose" of. :lol:

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FarmingNinja

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Bighill said:
Hello mate, i use my 600 when ever i can, you will love the results. You can get rock hard nugs, if the genes are rite.

I have run 60 under a 600, well packed in there. I didn't run that many again, as getting in to watter them and check for nanners is a bloody mission. 4 per sqft is a good rule of thumb for smaller autos. I feel an average of 12-18 grams per plant is not reaching too high. I use 2 gal grow bags alot but i feel a 1gal air pot will do MORE than enough. Too often i break up the root ball and it isn't even to the edge of the bag.

I can get a lb from 20 autos under a 600, with other 12/12 clones going at the same time.. This is also after i have selected what phenos to work with for at least 3 generations. First grow from the seed pack your going to see variation in phenos.
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sounds good. thanks for the knowledge
 
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FarmingNinja

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while i'm here i may as well ask...

has anyone grown autos in hempy buckets? i had been thinking of trying them out and i assume i still can with the autos but just thought i'd check. there was a guy on another site who just used perlite,osmocote plus and watered with tap water in a side by side hempy grow against perlite and fancy nutes. the oc+ outperformed the good stuff. i think it was a 12/12 from seed photo grow though. just thought i'd experiment with it and if it works save some $$$.
 
KuLong

KuLong

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Bighill said:
-1 gal grow medium (Peat/coco/Home Compost)
-2 cups sheep mauer (Or 2 cups "welcome harvest grow" not a poo product) For N heavy autos i'll put in 3 cups per grow bag, i have gone higher in some mixes.
-3 cups kelp. I use the dry mix that "Welcome Harvest Farms" sells. For soil mixes
-2 Tbs Dolomitic lime.
-3 cups Blood/Bone meal. You can get it just about anyware.
-Add a splash of perlite to lighten the mix up, say 3 to 4 cups? Nothing says you cannot add more/less. If your base medium has it allready you may not need much
-Fill the rest with Worm Castings.
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Thanks for the share. This thread moves so fast I miss many good post.

I probably missed it somewhere...

But do you add any ferts to this mix or is it a make and grow recipe?

I am looking for a mix for autos that I can just water after putting the soil together.
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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"I have smiled at a few of them..I think we have the same humour...
I keep thinking you must have children in the house..
because I'm sure that is where I got mine."

not ib the house... but i have children.. and in my head they're always near me... yes... definetly makes me smile... i'd agree.. we have similar sense of humour and way of thinking... :)

took me almost an hour to get caught up here... damN!

cant be pleased enough about how great this thread is... all great contributes and vibes!

thank you all for your advice / sharing experience!

J
 
mossys

mossys

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Weeell..I got to feel like a teenager all over again last night....
no..I didn't hit a rich seam of Viagra bud..before you all ask..:-P

The bloody bank messed up my money..by the time it was sorted..
the tabaconists had shut..

and I was left poking through the dregs of my rolling tin for a smoke..
there was old bud..twigs..broken seed..dog hair..
(and belly button fluff...:o..where the hell did That come from..)

It was like smoking a gardeners bonfire....:eyesmoke:

I was first in the queue for the tobaconists this morning..
so excuse me while I have a nicotine rush..

Don't plant seedlings into this.. 14 dayers at least. Or your going to grow a bunch of males.
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Now That is the most important bit of information while we are talking about the medium we are growing in.

Start thinking about the plants as Humans...
Germs..babies..
Sex..teenagers..
Ripe..all Woman....:weed:

and Feed accordingly.

Putting germs into pre-fert is like feeding a baby a beef-steak..
far too strong for them.
Babies need a bland diet...or they will fail to thrive.

@ Teenage..they sex..and it is a process that requires a lot of energy..so they need a bit food..
think about how much teenagers eat..
And..like teenagers...IF you have males and females in the same room..
you are gonna get a pregnancy.

All Woman..needs a bit of feed..
But..
the work has already been done in the teenage years..(veg to sex..)
so she only needs a Bit of enhancement to make her Glow.

That is why I use plain compo..
I germ straight into soil in the finish pot..and I have no transplant.

BUT..any of you hybriders out there..
if you ever want to blow open your male selection %..
germ into pre-fert.
 
mossys

mossys

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shroomy m8..
I cannot wait to see how they do on your conditions..
no squiggly tap-roots either...yet...:-P

(that was the funniest thing I have seen on them yet..)

P.S. are they going indoor or out..?
 
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