yes but i thought you were the proponent of the pyramid system. No matter what system you use in roulette, the house will always be a ~5% favorite in the long run (in us tables with 00). The problem with martingale and pyramid systems is that in a losing streak, you end up requiring larger and larger bets just to break even and when you do, you end up back from where you started. Depending on the system and the casino, you might end up hitting the table limit before you can recoup your losses. The only way to come out ahead is to quit while on a winning streak but if you keep your betting units small in order to keep from going broke on a losing streak, your winnings will be very minimal. I have played with these systems on simulators and most of them suck. I would much prefer to use a betting system where i make bigger bets when i'm freerolling, hoping to catch a winning streak and quit. The pyramid and martingale system doesn't let you win nearly enough to make up for the risk.