FF vs Botanicare vs Humboldt

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
I've provided all the reasoning for the products I'm including in my Hydro-Organic system.
No you haven't, you've just copied down what the bottle says or what the website says. If you really looked at the nutrient contents of your 'line up', you'd see you're doubling up. A PK booster and bigbud? It's the same thing, but I'm sure both companies appriciate the business ;). Oh I forgot you're testing Koolbloom too, how many different bottles do you need that contain the same mineral salts in the same ratios? :lol: I guess 3 is the answer.


You're a troll. Telling me I am growing bad bud, HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Trolls don't rack up 1800 posts with rep and good grow journals. Where did I say you're growing bad bud? I'm saying you're using products you don't need. Read my posts.

My avatar is a beautiful Kandy Kush x Skunk clone grown on maybe 150w of CFL bulbs between 5 plants. But you're right, I'm so obviously doing something wrong... Even with simple shit I do better than most, with the real setup I do just fine, thank you.
Post some pics of your mature flowering plants. Lets see how well a dozen additives and nutrients can do.



Peddle your Pure Blend Pro somewhere else. You're not reaching your potential because you're just a simple, simple person.
Botanicare is relevant to this thread, check the title. I'd suggest better nutes too be he wasn't asking about them. So what's your excuse?

And yes, I do need them all. If you just don't understand the purpose for each then that's not my fault homie. Time to look inwards to your own inequities rather than assuming I don't know my shit. I very, very clearly do.
YOU don't understand the purpose or maybe you do and need to use them because none of your bottles are getting the job done.

I'm over it. You're going on ignore, I fucking hate trolls, and people who would espouse bad advice to new growers. I'm 100% convinced there is a subversive group of drug dealers who purposefully sabotage peoples grows with bad advice. You, my enemy, are one of them in my book.
So you can't have an intelligent conversation about plant nutrition without getting your butt hurt and leaving? How old are you anyways?
 

NateDizity1420

Active Member
I also use the complete FoxFarm line up liquids & solubles and ive also had very good results w/ there products. But i also use Advanced Nutrients products too that Fox Farm doesnt have like, Rhino Skin, Final Phase, Bud Candy, Wet Betty. Now that ive added these additional Advanced Nutes products my overall plants health and production have increased by probably 25%
 

Snow Crash

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Homebrewer, your post count and rep don't mean shit. People who think they are the bomb because they post 8 times a day, every day, are sad. I've been on 3 forums for the last 2 years, and my total post count and rep both exceed yours when this is in consideration. I don't brag or expect the numbers alone to earn me any cred.

At the end of the day, good info is good info, and it doesn't matter if the person has an avatar and a signature and 2,000+ posts. The quantity of an individuals posts doesn't demonstrate their total word count or their quality.

I didn't use any advertising hype. I explained very plainly what each is, what it does, and why it is important. Starting to be pretty clear you're either not reading what I've written or you don't understand what you are reading. I think most rational people will see my posts and your posts and be able to make up their own minds. I could care less about advertising... I use Canna and Humboldt Nutrients after all...

And yes, given that I've established my belief that the group of growers working together to sabotage grows, it would make sense on a site like this (where rep from low level members is less valued) that you're +rep is all hype to make it seem like you know your shit. Based on the threads you've started it is pretty obvious you do not. If you're not a member of these intentional bad info givers then they are just repping you because of the bad advice they want to see more of. My rep is proper for my post count I think.

8 months ago you were here asking what curing actually does. Just 4 months ago you were asking if you only needed a single bottle of some crap nutrient.

And now your asking for my flowering pictures too? Probably wondering what bud looks like.
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Stop acting like you're the shit and save a little face homie.

PK 13/14 is a booster used only for a short period of time during a transitional period, I use it three times at 5ml per gallon around weeks 5-6.
Big Bud is the bloom booster I use during all of bloom, but I cut it out during the PK 13/14 period so as to not double up.
I bought a bottle of the PK 13/14 about 2 years ago and have about 3/4 of it left. If you've never used it then you don't know what it does or how it is used. It's your own ignorance working against you here.
I am not using Liquid KoolBloom and Big Bud together.
I am using the KoolBloom in my pure hydro garden and I will be using the Big Bud in my Hydro-Organic garden.
The reason are chelation agents including in the KoolBloom are not compatible with organics, while Big Bud is. If you knew anything about chemistry, organics, and chelation you'd understand what that means.

I don't run a bloom macro nutrient like Sensi Bloom, Tiger Bloom, etc. I just run the Canna Coco A+B from start to finish for the baseline nutrient levels and then I use PK supplements to dial the bloom nutrient levels and ratios for each individual strain I grow. Big Bud x Mr. Nice, Kandy Kush x Skunk, Lemon Skunk, Cole Train, Blue Mystic, Sharks Breath, OG18 x Skunk, Sensi Star, Wappa, Motavation, Chronic, Sour Kush, Sour Cream, Warlock, Ice, and Mindbender. They all need slightly different ratios, and understanding that simple truth bridges the gap between good bud and great bud.

I don't like being stuck in ratios. Sometimes my plants need more potassium, sometimes more phosphate. Having a little variety in the nutrient ratios allows a person to fine tune their garden. If your bottle of nutrients works at the perfect ratio for your strain, at all times of growth in all phases, then you got really fucking lucky. I don't find this to be the case and having some flexibility allows for better results.

I suppose you would have me cut out what? My fulvics? My organics? My bloom nutrients? My Magnesium? My silicon? All because you just don't understand their place, and in this ignorance you place too much faith in your single bottle.
 

homebrewer

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Looks like you should add another 12 bottles to your collection. Apparently doubling-up on nutes doesn't make them work twice as good ;).

















 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
I love how you have a total meltdown when it's obvious that I've been at this longer than you. I grow on a bigger scale and I produce a better product. It happens man, relax and maybe learn from people like me. I also enjoyed your PM to me, it was so funny I even showed my girlfriend who can also grow better than you ;).
 

Auzzie07

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I use botanicare in the dirt. Pure Blend pro grow and bloom along with liquid karma. I also throw in Sweet when I'm not feeding with the PureBlend formulas. Both plants below are the results.

In regards to Humboldt, I called them and asked them a few questions about a product of theirs and they literally told me to 'google it'. That is unacceptable and for that I will tell you to steer clear of a company who doesn't know their own products.
I remember someone on here saying that the Humboldt area was laughable at the Cannabis expo in California (Forget which if there are multiple - which I'm assuming there is since it's the holy land for cannabis). Apparently these guys don't know what they're doing. They weren't too keen to answer questions, or be sociable with those around. This is all second-hand, but either way, this is not the first time I've heard this about Humboldt.
 

jas6118

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To get back to the original subject....I used botanicare pro grow/bloom/sweet for my first two grows and was told by some on this site that it was one of the best cfl only grows they had seen to date. For my breakout grow Nirvana Master Kush, Reserva Privada #18, TGA Jack the ripper (sampled a popcorn bud last night at day 48 and got pretty loaded) 3RD dimension, and Magus Warlock, I am using the entire line of botanicare product...so far so good.

I have never had an issue of overfeeding except for one plant out of my master kush strains and I always follow the aggressive feeding schedule. The people at the hydro store want me to use canna products, but its so expensive.
 

Tamerlane

Active Member
well Im pretty much gonna go with homebrewers advice and get some dynagro... few of my friends who grow professionally also use Supernatural. So Im going to look into that nute line as well.

thanks for all the replies. HB ty for advice
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punit

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Just want to ask a simple question and hopefully get a few simple straight forward answers. What are some organics nutes that i could try without having to buy a shelf load of bottles? I have only been growing for about 2yrs. so i am new to this,but i have been getting some good results so far...got my buddies going crazy over the end results! I started with FF(BB,TB,GB) but then swithed to Botanicare(Pro Soil,Bloom,Liquid Karma,Cal-Mag) with Farfards Professional Potting mix soil. Both were good products,just liked the Botanicare nutes a little better. Grew same strains at the same time,just fed some FF and the others Botanicare nutse!
 

punit

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Im never seen them before,are they new? May i ask,how do you fit them into the normal feeding schedule that FF has for the other nute's(BB,TB,GB) i had?
 

josefontes

Member
using humboldt's oneness and ginormous right now - so far so good. they're only their first week into flowering and are sitting in ocean forest soil so they've only been fed a couple times now.

personally i wouldn't let one dumbass sales rep keep me from trying a product at all, smart employees are hard to come by, especially ones that are willing to answer phones all day.

here's a little shot of one of the indica house strains, bushy and healthy; would be willing to throw up some more if anyone's interested in the oneness.


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