PF tek - Shotgun Terrarium - GT & Cambodians Cubensis

[skolar182]

I tried a bulk grow on rye berries and it was much more unforgiving... half of my jars had contamination, but the ones that didn't turned out fine. If I ever grow again it'll be PF Tek again just because of how easy it was. On my 3rd time through, I purposely used no gloves and no sterilization chamber and I still have a 100% turnout. (NOT RECOMMENDED, I consider myself lucky and live in an overly clean house).

If I have any recommendation for you, it's go on amazon.com and buy some 5ml or 10ml syringes. (5) B+ caps gave me (10) syringes of beautiful purple spore solution! And my 2nd turnout was HUGE.

Here's one of the monsters:

 

[skolar182]

One more thing... you don't need anything more than a standard 60 watt incandescent light to trigger pinning. I had my light on a timer of 2 hours on and 22 hours off, and that is really more than necessary. Psilocybin degrades quickly with high heat or lots of light... so the less light the better bro! Just tryin' to save you some electricity and potency

 

[dankillerbs]

FYI heatlessBBQ, you did GOOD by NOT taping up your innoc holes... The purpose of the DRY vermiculite layer under the lid is to stop contams from entering the jar. It works in the same way as other filters, and colonization would probably be SLOWER with tape over the holes... aslo, the foil comes OFF too... that is simply so the water that condenses on the lid of the pot you sterilize your jars in doesnt drip into your jars, which would get your DRY layer wet and make them prone to contam. So keep the foil off after innoc and dont use tape either, just like your doing now with excelent results! Cheers mate!

 

[dankillerbs]

Also, stick with 12on 12off with your lights. A 26 watt floro on 12 hours a day wont do much to your electric bill but it will be stellar for pinsets! Just because they will pin with short exposure to light doesnt mean it will give you the best pinset and best flushes... All the pros recommend 12 on 12 off after years of testing and experimenting so I think thats probably the way to go!

 

[skolar182]

This is one of the biggest misconceptions with cubes. http://www.shroomery.org/5131/What-is-the-best-light-source-to-use

Mushrooms are not plants so they do not require a significant amount of light so initiate pinning. Light is only required to start the pinning process, once it's begun they do not need any more light. Experts and pros say the contrary of what you're saying.

Granted, it will only save you dollars on your electricity bill but it is what it is. I think if you're doing more than 4 hours of light a day that's too much.

If you want all the accurate answers go to www.shroomery.org. It helped me through lots of grows.

 

[dankillerbs]

I always thought the misconception is that they DONT need much light to grow...? That what I always hear people saying, which is why you see people claiming that christmas lights and short duration light cycles work so well... Anyways, I am by no means saying your wrong, but I also get all my info from the shroomery... Read this....

"Contrary to outdated and incorrect information from ten years ago repeated above, mushrooms do benefit from very bright light. Even direct sunlight for a few minutes per day will help the mycelium to produce larger, thicker, meatier and heavier fruits.

While it's true that mycelium doesn't use light the way plants do, they do use it, and it's not to tell them it's time to pin. Mycelium derives energy from light. Much is to be gained by keeping your colonizing mycelium on the same light schedule from spore germination to harvest. Mycelium has circadian rhythms just like mammals, and a day/night routine of light and temperature variation provides the best conditions for growth and large harvests."
RR

 

[420God]

I'm starting to get confused. I just wrapped my tub with christmas lights, will that work and for how many hours?

 

[dankillerbs]

Also, that link you posted had nothing to do with testing different lighting schedules... He was testing different light sources and the preformance from each, not different lighting schedules...

Anyways, weak lights like christmas lights and short light schedules can get you flushes, granted you are providing the more important pinning triggers such as FAE, but it doesnt mean it will give you the best flushes possible... Most people are fine with doing just what works, instead of doing what has been proven to work better.

Read this, another quote from RR about pinning triggers...
"I've found the brightest light stimulates more pins. You need to look at pinning triggers like the instruments in a band. One instrument can be slightly off, and the band still plays the song. Often one instrument can be taken away and the music still sounds ok. However, if all are working together, it's awesome."

...and he is talking about the bightest light in the 6500k spectrum by the way.

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

Read this, another quote from RR about pinning triggers...
"I've found the brightest light stimulates more pins. You need to look at pinning triggers like the instruments in a band. One instrument can be slightly off, and the band still plays the song. Often one instrument can be taken away and the music still sounds ok. However, if all are working together, it's awesome."

...and he is talking about the bightest light in the 6500k spectrum by the way.

"Contrary to outdated and incorrect information from ten years ago repeated above, mushrooms do benefit from very bright light. Even direct sunlight for a few minutes per day will help the mycelium to produce larger, thicker, meatier and heavier fruits.

While it's true that mycelium doesn't use light the way plants do, they do use it, and it's not to tell them it's time to pin. Mycelium derives energy from light. Much is to be gained by keeping your colonizing mycelium on the same light schedule from spore germination to harvest. Mycelium has circadian rhythms just like mammals, and a day/night routine of light and temperature variation provides the best conditions for growth and large harvests."
RR

very very nice info.

I LIKE!

thank you mr. D!

so yes, im going to stick with the 26 watt daylight 6500k CFL
@ at 12 hours on and a 12 hours off

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

yo mr. dankillerbs!!!

what size drill bit should i use on my terrarium (plastic tote)???
and how far apart should the holes be drilled on each side, bottom, and top of box?

keep in mind, im going to be using a few terrariums that fit 6 cakes each.
the plastic totes are already elevated a few inches off the ground AND fit 6 cakes perfectly...
so i decided these will do! =]

and i want to make sure i get the best pinset i possibly can...
i know cubensis are tropical and cold shock is not necessary. and i also know cubez grow in almost any temp.
but since i am incubating at 75-76 degrees F...
where should i keep my temp. when i want to initiate the best pinset possible???

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

Psilocybin degrades quickly with high heat or lots of light.

this is very true but not when they are initiating pinset or growing my bruv.
you want to keep your DRIED mushies out of heat, light, and air(oxygen)
cuz like said above....it will degrade the potency.... QUICKLY.

 

[dankillerbs]

Make your holes with a 1/4" drill bit, and space them about 3 inches apart on every side of the tub. Then fill with 4" of wet drained perlite. Then just mist and fan your terrarium at least 3 times daily or more if you can.

Also, temp drop is not a pinning trigger for tropical species, so you dont need to drop the temp... also dont worry if the light raises your temp a few degrees either because they will be fine in the high, low, or mid 70's.

So where are the totes gonna be chillin?

 

[StonerReekingHavok]

you say you can fan it up to 3 times a day or more...?

how much more can be fanned? and how much is too much?
obviously if its fanned more itll need to be sprayed more but moderately. correct?

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

just knocked up 8 jars last night with cambodian spores.

the 12 golden teachers are lookin' better and better.
will be birthing next week.

should i dunk and roll? or just dunk?

 

[dankillerbs]

Dunk and roll...you can bake your verm for about 15 min at 300deg to be safe before you roll. Then roll in verm, toss in terrarium lit by 12/12 lighting, wait 30 min after verm roll and then mist cakes good and the verm will stick nicely. Continue to mist and fan regularly. Keep in mind it's recomended that you leave cakes in the jar for 5-7 days after they appear fully colonized for the mycellium to consolidate it's hold on the substrate. They won't fruit within that week anyways if you birthed them immediately, so it's best to leave them in the jar for that time so you can hit em with all the pinning triggers at the same time once they are actually ready to fruit.. This hobby will sure teach you patience.

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

yes. i agree.
patience comes with growing anything.
specially cannabis....but its worth it.

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

UPDATE!!

today is day 24 into incubation with the golden teachers.
and it is day 4 into incubation with the cambodians.

images listed are from last night.
GT to the left.
Cambos to the right.

golden teachers most def. take a while to colonize.

next update will for sure be birthing.

anyone got anymore extra tips before i buy my terrariums?
and where can a get the finest misting sprayer available??

thanks all.

p.s. sorry for the poor lightening in one of the images. they are incubating in a closet. haha

-BBQ

 

[purple stanky]

hell yeah heatless lookin good.
birthing is not far off from what i can see. =)

 

[cartman]

Gonna be watching this thread closely and taking notes from heartless and dankiller. Just got my B+ and Cambodian syringes from ralphs the other day. Gonna noc em up early january.

 

[purple stanky]

hes not heartless hes a pretty chill guy hahaha but he is a HEATlessBBQ