Getting CAught!!

denverm4x

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You are so right, they actually only call flags on houses with abnormal heat temps, or houses with abnormal heat temps in single rooms, or like you said, abnormal heat sets. Such as 15 heat spots in one room.
haha my buddy was just saying how he wanted to set his house up with mad hydroponic tomato plant set ups, and then when the cops bust in he would sue them.... it could work!
 

COD4

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Sorry to say it, but some of you guys/gals crack me up!!! Yes they have heat imageing. But!!! is will not tell them when there is a small grow.. Like (2) 1,000'rs and less. Your Oven, your fireplace, your hot water tank. You kiln, your........ All throw of as much heat as those lights. And stop growing during the hot summer months. When growing a small crop indoors, there is only one way to get busted.... STUPIDITY!!!!!!!

Their is not a black helicopter that circles the sky, and when he spots your house, he says,, HEY!!! that house down there has a 400 watt HPS light with 4 Mary Jane plants!!! Now they might think someone is growing, so they go check it out and say.. Holly shit. that Garage has 15 Hot spots, lined up in three rows... That must be a grow operation.

Just my thoughts on the Matter.. If this had been a real Emergency, I would have told you where to go.
Any idea about how far apart the lights would need to be until they could make out each light? For example, I assume if you have 3 lights each one 3 inches away from the next, it would look like one light. But if they were each 3 feet away from one another, they could see 4 different lights.

Question is, how far do you think they need to be separated before the imaging can make out individual lights?
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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Even at three lights. set 8 feet apart. If they notice them, they would just pass right over. They are looking for large grows that they know with out a doubt,, or at least they think so.

I can see the head lines now. Police Raid on Old Lady's Orchid grow, causes Heart Attack. Lady dies at Hospital. Family Lawyer says Metro Police better open that wallet wide.
 

LoudBlunts

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OMG!!!!!!!!! you guys dont know how or dont like to read or something


you just quoted his whole reply and you still couldnt find your answer....


to answer your question, for one..... THEY CANNOT MAKE OUT THE SHAPE

i REPEAT THEY CANNOT MAKE OUT THE SHAPE
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THERMAL IMAGING/HEAT/IR cannot see what the object is, whether it be a fucking lightbulb or a plant.


they DO however see the HEAT that the light makes..... THAT is what they catch you with.
 

LoudBlunts

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I can see the head lines now. Police Raid on Old Lady's Orchid grow, causes Heart Attack. Lady dies at Hospital. Family Lawyer says Metro Police better open that wallet wide.
actually something like that came about already.

some lady was growing some african violets or some shit and she had an indoor garden and a whole room was dedicated to it. The electric company came out and questioned her.....
 

LoudBlunts

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yall guys need to do some reading. especially if this is your hobby, learn to research instead of taking the easy way out and just asking somebody.... because you wont know for sure. You are just going off somebody's word.

RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH. damn reading never hurt anybody.


and besides.... once you land up in jail because you took the advice of some hearsay instead of researching the law on your own, you're shit up a creek.


i bet that ass wished you would have read!!!!
 

LoudBlunts

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last but not least

of course there are other "NEW" methods but most leos arent even hip to the technology nor do they have the funds.

you normally find these type of tactics used in areas of high concentration of growers (i.e. cali, tennessee, etc)

some cool links yall NEED TO READ (because knowledge never hurt ANYBODY) :

- KYLLO V. UNITED STATES
- How do authorities detect indoor marijuana crops (e.g. hydroponics)? | Ask MetaFilter
- Blindsided by the light

and if all else fails and you are still paranoid....go buy you some damn polyshield or something of the like and call it a day.
 

LiveAndLetLlive

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You could simply pump your hot grow room air into a mini freezer.
If you stick a load of bicarb or carbon into the freezer it would cool your expelled air and get rid of any smell.

This ones only 50 odd cm by 50cm or so,so you can put it in your loft and pump your expelled air into it.
Leave the lid ever so slightly ajar with something to trap it open just a smidgen so the air can escape after its cooled down a bit.

You would also have to cut a hole in the front of it for your air piping to fit in though.:blsmoke:

Zanussi ZUC053W Mini Freezer, White - John Lewis
shyt, i just explained why this wouldnt work then i clicked on something and when i went back my explanation was gone. but to keep it short. this is a bad idea dont do it. it doesnt make sence if you understand how cooling things (fridges, ac, dehumidifiers, etc) work. it wastes electricty and creates more heat to be brief. no offence m8, not trying to knock ya, but just in case someone thinks this is a good idea, its not.smoke it easy, and God bless, all.:peace:
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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shyt, i just explained why this wouldnt work then i clicked on something and when i went back my explanation was gone. but to keep it short. this is a bad idea dont do it. it doesnt make sence if you understand how cooling things (fridges, ac, dehumidifiers, etc) work. it wastes electricty and creates more heat to be brief. no offence m8, not trying to knock ya, but just in case someone thinks this is a good idea, its not.smoke it easy, and God bless, all.:peace:

Live and let is totally correct here. I have a little Education on how this all works myself. And for every BTU taken out of a room, or Refrig, One BTU needs to be released,, BTU= British Thermal Unit which is Heat.. Not only is the heat just being moved from one place to the other, but more heat is being produced to move it.. so in reality you are maoking even more heat, and useing more electricity.


If you want to grow big to get rich, then do not cry when you go to prison. Myself. I grow for myself, and have a M&M card. What a bitch it was to get, but well worth it.


last but not least

of course there are other "NEW" methods but most leos arent even hip to the technology nor do they have the funds.

you normally find these type of tactics used in areas of high concentration of growers (i.e. cali, tennessee, etc)

some cool links yall NEED TO READ (because knowledge never hurt ANYBODY) :

- KYLLO V. UNITED STATES
- How do authorities detect indoor marijuana crops (e.g. hydroponics)? | Ask MetaFilter
- Blindsided by the light

and if all else fails and you are still paranoid....go buy you some damn polyshield or something of the like and call it a day.
As for this statement, I rest my case.. the guy growing had 100 plants. And the other people got snitched on.
 

natmoon

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shyt, i just explained why this wouldnt work then i clicked on something and when i went back my explanation was gone. but to keep it short. this is a bad idea dont do it. it doesnt make sence if you understand how cooling things (fridges, ac, dehumidifiers, etc) work. it wastes electricty and creates more heat to be brief. no offence m8, not trying to knock ya, but just in case someone thinks this is a good idea, its not.smoke it easy, and God bless, all.:peace:
Mini freezers do work actually and they cost 17.50 a year to run.
They are 50cmx50cmx50cm very small,they do not have a detectable heat sig.
When the air is pumped in and you have only a very slight gap in them the air will not escape until a certain pressure is reached.
In all reality i dont usually say anything that i dont actually know about,unlike some people.:mrgreen:

The original poster knocking me may even be a police dude as i know it works as i know people who do ;)

Average annual energy costHow much the appliance costs to run a year (average)
£17.50
 

LiveAndLetLlive

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Mini freezers do work actually and they cost 17.50 a year to run.
They are 50cmx50cmx50cm very small,they do not have a detectable heat sig.
When the air is pumped in and you have only a very slight gap in them the air will not escape until a certain pressure is reached.
The original poster knocking me may even be a police dude as iknow it works as i know people who do ;)

Average annual energy costHow much the appliance costs to run a year (average)
£17.50
ok your right about everyting buddy. yes i am a cop, two your method would work, three lol.. your funny.
what do you mean by "as i know it works as i know people who do"? like you know people that use this method to remove the "heat singature" from their lights? what would lead you to belive im a cop anyway? because im "knocking" you? i was being polite.
"In all reality i dont usually say anything that i dont actually know about,unlike some people.:mrgreen:" you were refering to me no? ok so tell me what you know about fridges besides they make things cold? without googleing it. lmao
you know what, i guess it could cool your exhust heat and not build up any more heat in your house if you placed the ass end of the fridge in a window like an AC would be. but i guess i was thinking inside the box. lol
hey man whatever you decide to do i wish you the best of luck. i wasnt trying to be a dick. i could be wrong about my logic, i dont work HVAC. i was just trying to be helpful not judmental, we all get judged in the end anyways. God bless man.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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ok your right about everyting buddy. yes i am a cop, two your method would work, three lol.. your funny.
what do you mean by "as i know it works as i know people who do"? like you know people that use this method to remove the "heat singature" from their lights? what would lead you to belive im a cop anyway? because im "knocking" you? i was being polite.
"In all reality i dont usually say anything that i dont actually know about,unlike some people.:mrgreen:" you were refering to me no? ok so tell me what you know about fridges besides they make things cold? without googleing it. lmao
you know what, i guess it could cool your exhust heat and not build up any more heat in your house if you placed the ass end of the fridge in a window like an AC would be. but i guess i was thinking inside the box. lol
hey man whatever you decide to do i wish you the best of luck. i wasnt trying to be a dick. i could be wrong about my logic, i dont work HVAC. i was just trying to be helpful not judmental, we all get judged in the end anyways. God bless man.

Well I have an Engineering degree and do a lot of designing on heating and cooling of large structures, and What NatMoon say is so very, very wrong. Yes you can cool down the air comeing out of the room. But those BTU's will be released from the cooling system at the condenser and it has to be dispursed somehow. or the system will stop working.. Sorry Natmoon, this is just how these systems work. You can not make or destroy energy, and heat is an energy. So if what you say is correct.. Then Instein was an idiot.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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Mini freezers do work actually and they cost 17.50 a year to run.
They are 50cmx50cmx50cm very small,they do not have a detectable heat sig.
When the air is pumped in and you have only a very slight gap in them the air will not escape until a certain pressure is reached.
In all reality i dont usually say anything that i dont actually know about,unlike some people.:mrgreen:

The original poster knocking me may even be a police dude as i know it works as i know people who do ;)

Average annual energy costHow much the appliance costs to run a year (average)
£17.50
Natmoon,, Sorry bud, but I have to say, you do not know what you are tlaking about. Your buddies have you full of shit. You believe to much of what your buddies tell you.


HAHAHAHA.. EDIT!!!!!!!!! O just noticed Natmoons link to the usage of that system.. that AVERAGE usage did not have some stoner pumping hot air into it.
 

LiveAndLetLlive

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Well I have an Engineering degree and do a lot of designing on heating and cooling of large structures, and What NatMoon say is so very, very wrong. Yes you can cool down the air comeing out of the room. But those BTU's will be released from the cooling system at the condenser and it has to be dispursed somehow. or the system will stop working.. Sorry Natmoon, this is just how these systems work. You can not make or destroy energy, and heat is an energy. So if what you say is correct.. Then Instein was an idiot.
cheers m8 for backing me up. for a moment i was thinking "well I must be wrong because he doesnt say things that he doesnt know about first" or whatever it was. lmao, i was trying to be nice about it and he just made himself look like more of an...... well you can fill in the blanks. hey whatever works for him, different strokes for different folks, whatever floats his boat. anyways ya thanks mr.lord dangly. much obliged. God bless everyone
 

mountainSpliff

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A guy I know got caught with about 30 plants in his back yard. He spent the weekend in a cell and got a $250 fine. Apparently the evidence went "missing". But that's here in South Africa. He got caught because he has a big mouth and doesn't know how to keep it closed.
 

natmoon

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It never ceases to amaze me how people make sock accounts to back themselves up and pat themselves on the back and have conversations with themselves.
I seriously recommend that you seek a shrink and i hope you get better in time:blsmoke:
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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First off, it would be nice if people had even the most basic of understanding of something before they tell someone.. HEY!! This works for sure!

That little cooling the air in the Mini Frig thing would only use up elect. and make even more heat then before. Making it even easier to bust the person.

Unless you went to the Land of OZ, and got that hot little witch of the north to make you a MAGIC mini frig. Or maybe if you just clicked your heals three times, and said I am sure this work, I am sure this works, I am sure this works.
 

natmoon

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Hmm your so properly educated,clever and doing an advanced degree that you call it a mini frig thingy.:roll:
 
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