DIY 1200watt Under Current with DJ Short Bluberry, Sweet Island Skunk, Sour Diesel

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disposition84

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Sounds good, really jealous of co2 users.

If I can free up the budget enough for next round, it's definitely on the
top of my list of upgrades, along with some MH bulbs for veg/end of flower.
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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Looked like your room was a bit big for an small CO2 setup. You might want to add the cost of one of those grow tents if you want to do CO2 (under $200 on Ebay). You could do a 2 month turnaround with plants vegging and transitioning, then throw them in the tent for gassing the last 8 weeks. But we'll see if my little setup can pull it off or if bigger is really better.
 
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disposition84

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I don't really like the tents as I'm 6'3" 250 and small spaces don't really
work for me. I'm using some small co2 addatives now, but if I go co2
I want to get an environmental controller and go all out.
 
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disposition84

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Day 17 Flower:
PH - 5.8 PPM - 800 Res Temp - 61*F
RH - 35% Ambient temp - 82*

Advanced Sensi A/B
DM Zone/Silica
Greenleaf Cal Mag Bloom/Sweet Candy/Element X
Great White
Hygrozyme

Did a week 2 nute changeout today. Small trichs started showing about 2 days ago.
Gotta say thanks to greenleaf nutrients, everything has gone great so far!

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quietguy420

quietguy420

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DAMN! That sour d has so many nodes, going to be a sweet ass harvest bro. The blueberry is looking pristine too.
 
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disposition84

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RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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Those things are doing freaking AWESOME! I really like how each cola has seperated its self from the larger leaves and the plant size didn't get huge. I grew mine out too much and now it's thick as hell but not nearly as perfect looking as yours. I'm going to prune the next time to make sure they have that many colas. I thought that many would only produce wimpy buds but it looks like they are going to be long and huge.

I'll also have to check out the additives you are using. I always felt additives were a waste but maybe you do have something extra going on there. Mine are only 5 days behind yours, and these things really do start growing like mad once they shift to flowering, but I don't think mine will catch up to yours in 5 days, even with CO2.

EDIT:
Looking at the pics I now realize my plants are way too busy providing for their huge size and not enough for just flower production. I almost want to scrap these and go with the clones I have but they haven't got good roots yet otherwise I would.

Day 22 of flowering (white widows on the left, xj13 on the right which were topped once and still out grew the ww):

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disposition84

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Thanks for stopping by!

My scrog is completely out of control and a lot of the lower growth
is just going to be popcorn buds. The blueberry didn't stretch nearly
as much as the Sour D and SIS so it was very easy to maintain. I think
the key to this scrog thing might be going horizontal immediately instead
of having your screen a foot above the trunks. Gonna try it again next
go round.

The additives I'm using are from Greenleaf Nutrients http://greenleafnutrients.com/
and are made by a fellow enthusiast. They're a dry powder that you can
either mix into your own liquid formulas or mix directly into the res. It's my
first time using them but so far everything is going really great. Their prices
are really fair for the comparative products and so far customer service
has been freakin' sweet. I would definitely recommend them to anyone and
hopefully my final product will do the talking for them.

Might not be practical but could you do any side lighting? I added a bit of
HPS side lighting to mine and it's helped keep the lower growth looking at
least decent. If not practical, at least you'll have plenty of lower growth
for butter or hash :)
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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disposition84 said:
I think
the key to this scrog thing might be going horizontal immediately instead
of having your screen a foot above the trunks.
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What do you mean by this? Did you mean have the screen right above the tops or at the bottom by their trunks? I think there may be something to topping them so much that even the bottom sprouts grow to reach the top.
 
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disposition84

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I don't think heavily topping like I did with a screen above is really a functional way
at using scrog. While I got many tops like I desired, they've all become much too tall
and my lighting can't penetrate deep enough which is going to leave me with much
popcorn bud to trim.

So next time instead of going for a ridiculous amount of tops I'm going to go for topping
to get 4 main branches, and growing those out vertically. This will let the side branching
from the main colas fill in the screen and things should stay shorter overall which will give
me better light penetration.
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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The lower stuff is always wasted with an overhead light set up. You could try hanging verticle light straight down the middle and screen around that to get more of the sides and the tops at the same time. I just don't have the room for that.

I think vegging them for way less time, maybe only 2 weeks or so to get them to 1 1/2' with multiple tops, then letting the first 2 weeks of 12/12 grow them out a bit might be the best way to ensure the plants remain small enough for the light to penetrate the whole plant. That and more plants, maybe ditching these 5 gal buckets for something smaller and more compact. I keep changing my system. The set up I used the very first time I grew back in '92 still seems to have worked the best. I used just 1 plant, topped once, and a single 200 hps. When flowering I just tied the top of the plant verticle and let the side shoots bud (used CO2 then as well). That got me 6 oz. Amazing, huh?
 
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maximto

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disposition84 said:
I don't think heavily topping like I did with a screen above is really a functional way
at using scrog. While I got many tops like I desired, they've all become much too tall
and my lighting can't penetrate deep enough which is going to leave me with much
popcorn bud to trim.

So next time instead of going for a ridiculous amount of tops I'm going to go for topping
to get 4 main branches, and growing those out vertically. This will let the side branching
from the main colas fill in the screen and things should stay shorter overall which will give
me better light penetration.
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Disposition, first of all I would like to say that I appreciate your input on my thread, which will lead to a grow journal that I hope is as pretty as yours. I like what you have to say about topping, and find it very true, as my previous grows have been clandestine cabinet grows and I have made some very bushy plants. while this is necessary in a cabinet or possibly in a rotating or vertical garden, it is less necessary with the footprint that you have to work with. This will be the first time that I have a full space to work in as well so I think you will be a role model for me and soon we will be able to shoot feedback and ideas back and forth, kudos to a successful first leg of your grow. I hope to be able to come grow in colorado some time but that 9000 dollar licensing fee is a bit daunting at the moment! WAIT TILL I have a few grows under my belt!
regards,
Maxim
 
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disposition84

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Day 34 Flower:
PH - 5.8 PPM - 800 Res Temp - 61*F
RH - 35% Ambient temp - 82*

Advanced Sensi A/B
DM Zone/Silica
Greenleaf Cal Mag Bloom/Sweet Candy/Element X
Great White
Hygrozyme

The Sour D is turning out to be really great, one of the
colas is about 18" and a majority are over 12" in length and
super frosty. The Sweet Island skunk seems to be super
whispy right now but hopefully it will fill out. Blueberry has
some really nice colas forming and should fill out really nicely.

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quietguy420

quietguy420

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My gawd, they haven't even started to fill in the sides of the buds and swell and they are lookin HUGE! +rep bro keep those babies looking sweet.
BWT that blueberry canopy is going to look phenomenal in a few weeks =D
 
Stoner Smurf

Stoner Smurf

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Do you think you could elaborate a bit on how you built it and how it works? I am having a hard time telling where your air pump is hooked up to. Also how do you change your water without a central reservoir? I see the control bucket, but if you were to try and mix nutes in it, doesn't it all just flow to the rest of your buckets? Last question does your pH stay stable in all the buckets or does it fluctuate from bucket to bucket?

I like your set-up a lot, very nice.
 
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disposition84

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Thanks for all the comments :)

The system is very simple, it's comprised of 5x 5 gallon buckets connected
by 2" PVC via rubber grommets called Uniseals. There is a 3/4" barbed hose
connection on the back of the system between the last two buckets where
there is an inline pump pulling water from the back center and redepositing
the water to the epicenter (front bucket). The pump is a 495gph pump and
it keeps the nutes very mixed up. For air pumps, I just have a small 1/4" hole
in the side of the bucket where the air line comes into the buckets for aeration.

The bucket in front (epicenter) is where I can monitor my nutes/ph/temps as
well as add in and subtract the nutes. I simply have a submersible pump with
a hose that is long enough to reach the drain. I simply drain when needed and
refill, there is still a small amount of water in the bottom and if I need to get to
that the wet vac does a great job.

I mix all my nutes in a separate rubbermaid to make sure I can easily get them
exactly where I want them, and then pump it into the system once I'm ready.

PH stability seems more dependant upon nutes, my new greenleaf nutes that I
get in powdered form let me mix it with my PH balanced RO water for great results
that stay super stable. Nutes are constantly mixed, so PH is universal throughout
system.
 
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