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Heads Up

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I didn't top mine dez, it just has not grown vertically very much at all. I can't even begin to tell you how many nodes it has, it's so dense and the nodes are so close together I can't tell. The casey jones' nodes are about an inch apart at this point, which is great for a sativa dominant plant, the headband, not even a half inch between nodes and that's after a bit of stretch. The new growth comes out less than a quarter inch apart, it's an amazing little plant. My whole intention was to give them six weeks of veg which would give me plenty of time to build a good root system and to keep them in small containers to keep them small since I was only growing them for clones. So now two weeks after the transplant into two gallon containers, they still are keeping that nice tight growth pattern. They'll probably explode with stretch when I stick them into 12/12.
 
DST

DST

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Okay, hate to bump my own post, perhaps next time I should start off with an easy question, like what lights do you use for flower? lol, j/k.. Anyway, my question was probably lost in all the other waffle I speak and was missed by most, but here goes again, theres a couple of q's in there, anyone not sure just ask and I will try to clarify.

DST said:
I have just finished tinkering around with my air flow in the room. So now I have fresh air coming into the cool tubes, I have a y splitter, one side going to the cool tube, and the other that leads off to another fan to have some fresh air come into the room, (NB the fan for the cool tubes is a ruck fan and the fan for the side duct for fresh air is just a low powered one - anyone think this'll mess up the air flow going into the cool tube? Seems to be okay at the moment) Then the top of the light tower the fan exhausts back out and down through ducting that exits next to the inlet ducting. This then blows the warm air back out to my door where there is a gap to the outside.
I have effectively eliminated the carbon filter for the time being and I am considering having a carbon filter on the end of my exhaust that will take the hot air back into my house to heat the house (bearing in mind that this hot air doesn't get mixed up with the smell from the grow cab anyway)
I know you should pull through a carbon filter, but any thoughts? Perhaps another fan to draw the air from the exhaust and through the filter.....

So in brief - Outside Air>Duct>CoolTube>Fan>Duct>Outside (but I am wasting all this hot air!!!!)
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I think I have mentioned a couple of time re-circulating the heat from my lights and using it to heat my house. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
 
ENDLSCYCLE

ENDLSCYCLE

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DST said:
Okay, hate to bump my own post, perhaps next time I should start off with an easy question, like what lights do you use for flower? lol, j/k.. Anyway, my question was probably lost in all the other waffle I speak and was missed by most, but here goes again, theres a couple of q's in there, anyone not sure just ask and I will try to clarify.



I think I have mentioned a couple of time re-circulating the heat from my lights and using it to heat my house. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
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Alright DST.....First......look at the avatar.....Second.....I've noticed that your filter was always low.....If your intake is low, it just seems kinda pointless..getting rid of the fresh air right away and leaving the hot,stinky air still up top.........put your filter up top......I use the heat all year round....basement is cold....just make sure that filter is working or else your gonna know it....as for putting the filter at the end...I've done it before with success, only thing is that you're not using the prefilter first....you'll be replacing it much more often....replace it often anyway...every grow for sure....IDK....fkn baked....just got off work....kinda rambling...hope it helps
 
curious old fart

curious old fart

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DST said:
Okay, hate to bump my own post, perhaps next time I should start off with an easy question, like what lights do you use for flower? lol, j/k.. Anyway, my question was probably lost in all the other waffle I speak and was missed by most, but here goes again, theres a couple of q's in there, anyone not sure just ask and I will try to clarify.



I think I have mentioned a couple of time re-circulating the heat from my lights and using it to heat my house. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
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Absolutely. why waste what you need.

:peace:
cof
 
tea tree

tea tree

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I am hating the spider mites right now. I have been using canola oil and dipping the clones and soaking the bigger plants with sprays of it and water like the bottle directs. It is the most effective thing yet. I kills their eggs! Also I am using my 600 watt pretty nice for some clones recently rooted! used a clone dome with paper towels over the top for a few days and am now slowly lowering the light. They love it.
 
DST

DST

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Hey endlys, cof, thanks for the replies guys. I was thinking of putting a carbon filter up top in the cab and just have that to clear the air in the room. As for the air in the cool tubes, that comes from outside the cab pulling fresh air that naturally vents in from outside and then through the ducting, tubes, and back out to the same spot, the only smell that should get in that would be if I had a joint in the room (happens a lot, hah). I was checking earlier and I am not happy with the suction, perhaps I need to upgrade my fan...or check the y tubing. Will get a drawing up at some point.

DST
 
Dezracer

Dezracer

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Sorry I couldn't be of help DST. I just don't know that much about filters and junk. The exhaust from my lights keeps the whole garage warm all night long though so I think it would help heat your house a bit. It's been getting in the 40 degree range at night here lately and my garage stays considerably warmer at night. I think it may actually be warmer in the garage at night than during the day.

@ tea tree - Interesting approach to mites.

@ everyone else - have any of you used or heard of the Earth Juice lineup of nutes? I use their rooting powder and when at a nursery today I noticed they've got a much bigger hydro section than they used to and are carrying what looks like it should be everything this company makes, lol. There's two different sets of nutes that have different analysis claims and there's a product for good root structures, PH down, molasses and a flower booster additive. I'm really curious about it because it's supposed to be all organic like the GH stuff and it's relatively inexpensive.
 
Dezracer

Dezracer

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DST said:
Hey endlys, cof, thanks for the replies guys. I was thinking of putting a carbon filter up top in the cab and just have that to clear the air in the room. As for the air in the cool tubes, that comes from outside the cab pulling fresh air that naturally vents in from outside and then through the ducting, tubes, and back out to the same spot, the only smell that should get in that would be if I had a joint in the room (happens a lot, hah). I was checking earlier and I am not happy with the suction, perhaps I need to upgrade my fan...or check the y tubing. Will get a drawing up at some point.

DST
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I took my filter out of the cooling for the lights due to low suction/air movement. I have the filter propped up on a 2x3 shelf so the top of it is right at the ceiling and the fan is connected to it directly. The fan is actually outside the room above the ceiling. Not having the restriction of the filter in the cooling of the lights is the only way my fan would be enough to cool both lights. It's either 250 or 300 CFM, don't remember for sure and it's working pretty good but the top cooltube still gets too hot to touch for more than a few seconds. The bottom is soo cool that you could lick it if you were so incilned, barely warm.
 
las fingerez

las fingerez

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DST said:
I done that and then managed to re-infect everything from my outdoor....I wish I had somewhere else to dry as I had to dry my outdoor in the grow room, this brought my PM and my Mites back with evengance. I have once againe moved everything out of the grow room, cleaned and now back again.

I have just finished tinkering around with my air flow in the room. So now I have fresh air coming into the cool tubes, I have a y splitter, one side going to the cool tube, and the other that leads off to another fan to have some fresh air come into the room, (NB the fan for the cool tubes is a ruck fan and the fan for the side duct for fresh air is just a low powered one - anyone think this'll mess up the air flow going into the cool tube? Seems to be okay at the moment) Then the top of the light tower the fan exhausts back out and down through ducting that exits next to the inlet ducting. This then blows the warm air back out to my door where there is a gap to the outside.
I have effectively eliminated the carbon filter for the time being and I am considering having a carbon filter on the end of my exhaust that will take the hot air back into my house to heat the house (bearing in mind that this hot air doesn't get mixed up with the smell from the grow cab anyway)
I know you should pull through a carbon filter, but any thoughts? Perhaps another fan to draw the air from the exhaust and through the filter.....

So in brief - Outside Air>Duct>CoolTube>Fan>Duct>Outside (but I am wasting all this hot air!!!!)
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someone please correct me if i'm wrong but regards to ur Y section, both fans would have 2 be the same or negative pressure will come into play messing things up
 
Dezracer

Dezracer

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I think you're right. I originally was going to connect both of my fans to a 'Y' connector thinking it would double the amount of air going through the tubes but after some research discovered it won't so I went with one and put the other on the filter. I was going to put the filter at the ceiling height and draw the air down through the cooltubes and out of the room at floor level with the 'Y' being just after the lower cooltube.
It would increase the flow through the tubes but doesn't double it. I think the filter may have made me end up with about the same amount of cooling I have now but not sure.

My two fans are identical though.
 
3eyes

3eyes

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For those that are having problems with mite have you tried plant vitality plus? It comes in an aluminium bottle with a ghost buster on the front, i've used it with good results it's also a foliar feed but i wouldn't recommend using it to much as the little fuckers might get immune to it or if your well into flower try spray safe by Canadian express, that stuff melts the little wankers and you can spray and smoke the bud the same day with no ill effects.
 
1badmasonman

1badmasonman

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DST sorry i skipped your post man. Only thing i can recommend is putting the Y splitter at the very top of your cool tube. I did this when i had the vert setup for that breif bit and it seemed to work well. Just an idea. I dont know if the exhaust had any MJ smell to it though, The room didnt smell and the filter was getting good suction through it, ??? Anyways i think your idea sounds like it would work. Good luck with it bru. 1BMM
 
1badmasonman

1badmasonman

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Headsup RE to your question. My headbands are very compact too like Dez was saying. I did top mine and a few larger shoots for clones. But that is about it. I have just let them grow. I imagine they are vegged for 6 weeks now. Ill have to go back and look. I really like the structure of the HBs. Nice and tight yeah thats how i like em lol.
 
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