Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year
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Klo$etBreeder
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Damn boys im missing out on so much fucking computer!.. Well little after Xmas I'll be back on everyday atleast here ppl listen to what I have to say ol lady is so sick of listening about my diploid plant turned Triploid and back again lol along with my daily plant rants and other stuff she pretends to understand. Atleast here most understand plant biology and a great deal of cannabis.
And hic I'm glad to see you take a serious interest in breeding we need good strains in Michigan like Cali some real signature strains.
We may have to travel to the Hindu kush mountains to get some serious landrace genetics. Maybe Africa as well I'm down big summer harvest next year and plane tickets for seed
And hic I'm glad to see you take a serious interest in breeding we need good strains in Michigan like Cali some real signature strains.
We may have to travel to the Hindu kush mountains to get some serious landrace genetics. Maybe Africa as well I'm down big summer harvest next year and plane tickets for seed
Green Dave
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hic
Been doing it for 3 years or so with good results
Been doing it for 3 years or so with good results
there is a strain up in the western UP called Mulberry, Ms. Mulberry and some other fruity names. I had a bag of the Mulberry and it was some pretty dank stuff. Some guy was giving away bags of seeds at a local compassion meeting, said he got them straight from the breeder the day before and the breeder was happy to give them away.
We have our own landrace strains in Mi. you just have to look a little harder.
well jesus the whole issue of creating seeds is so you no longer have to look!, you also do not have to deal with the stander michigan assholes that think they are god. I agree michigan does have a few of it's own strains just none that have a strain made in michigan that is good enough that EVERYONE knows about it. never even heard of Mulberry, don't need too. I can make my own
Green Dave
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JC
Mulberry is from East Island seed
hic is cross breeding to make a New strain NOT renaming a current strain and taking credit for it
Thanks hic for taking Michigan to the next level
Im lookin for a strain made in Michigan for Michigan
I think hic has the next big thing comming up
Critical Bean , Jilly Mass or Black Bean,Jilly widow you make us proud hic
well it is all about no longer bowing down to those who think they are it. I am simply trying to make seeds possible for everyone that has the capacity to love.
I am no pro...but I have plenty of time to become wise in breeding.
you forgot to mention, critical alaskan trainwreck, hics'bbs BW&CM+sweetest BB i find, midnight mass, j's skunk. to name a few more!
I am not one to talk shit, if I say I am going to do it. it is already done. just takes a little time.
I am no pro...but I have plenty of time to become wise in breeding.
you forgot to mention, critical alaskan trainwreck, hics'bbs BW&CM+sweetest BB i find, midnight mass, j's skunk. to name a few more!
I am not one to talk shit, if I say I am going to do it. it is already done. just takes a little time.
delstele
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Cold Cold go away so The Michigan growers can get the state over grown with cannabis. Hows the indoor gear running? Mine is doing pretty good I switched over to Coco and I don't think I will look back. The Canna line of nutes and coco is some amazing shit to grow in. I have a test going as I type this with Blue Berry 2 in soil 2 in coco the ones is soil are chugging along wile the coco is kicking its ass explosive growth I'm getting at lease an inch or two a day under a 1000 watt halide. The 2 in soil are lucky to pack on a 1\2 inch of growth a day. If you have not tried canna coco I humbly ask that you give a go the shit rawks for growing cannabis.
There line is kida pricey but worth every penny, Peace.
There line is kida pricey but worth every penny, Peace.
Is this kinda what you got? http://www.plantitearth.com/natural-nutrients/canna-coco.aspx *link* -- thanks delstele for your scientific observation. more are needed and aways intresting to hear the outcomes of such experiments!
I am pleased to announce GD attitude has jillybean back in stock. that was quick!. I will order the final batch of seeds I think with JAN 1st weekend promo. I will be very excited to finally have them all in my posession.
I will give an indoor update very soon delstele, I am still observing the situation. I will have the grow finalized asap. right now 8cm's remain, 1ww/cm, and 4 maybe 5 BBS that were gifted to me by Green Dave!.
5 of 5 bbs popped GD, one is however having a hard time coming outta the shell.. I played with it as much as I could trying to get that shell off, anymore and I would have killed it.
this getting the seed shell of those tiny seedlings is usually no prob, but once in a while I get a stuborn one. I really think my wife should be doing it for me, she is more steady then I, and patient.
ya know those girls are one hell of a good shots, they are more gracefull I think. Truth be known my wife could out shoot me and she has only shot a .22 about 30 times. I have shot it 1000's go figure?
I will give an indoor update very soon delstele, I am still observing the situation. I will have the grow finalized asap. right now 8cm's remain, 1ww/cm, and 4 maybe 5 BBS that were gifted to me by Green Dave!.
5 of 5 bbs popped GD, one is however having a hard time coming outta the shell.. I played with it as much as I could trying to get that shell off, anymore and I would have killed it.
this getting the seed shell of those tiny seedlings is usually no prob, but once in a while I get a stuborn one. I really think my wife should be doing it for me, she is more steady then I, and patient.
ya know those girls are one hell of a good shots, they are more gracefull I think. Truth be known my wife could out shoot me and she has only shot a .22 about 30 times. I have shot it 1000's go figure?
delstele
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Yes thats the stuff its a 2 part system with some other root stimulators and one for P and K in the flowering stage. You simply fill you container with coco water it in good and use the root stimulater for a week the start the nute line. I have never seen roots develop so fast the beer cup I had them in was so packed full of roots in 4 days I could not believe my eyes! I'm telling you guys\gals this stuff is the only way to grow cannabis inside, IMHO Now lemme say some of there products I see no use for but the basic nute line is killa.
Check out there web pages for a more detailed explanation.. www.cannahydroponics.com
Klo$etBreeder
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Mulberry is not landrace. Landrace is a wild species of cannabis that has only be altered by the climate conditions and it's environment and nothing by man a 100% pure genetic pool untapped. Marijuana doesn't grow
Wild in Michigan due to our climate.
Hic the easiest way to clone is build an areo cloner it does the work for you with a 99% success rate there about 70$ to build but then you don't need any clone gel or root cubes nothing just Ph'd water and turn her on. All you need is a roughneck rubermaid tub gotta be roughneck. Neoprene inserts which you can order the actual ones from the areo cloner, PVC pipe, and a pond pump oh and drip irrigation sprayers. I built one in a half hour and it saves me weeks some times while waiting for clones to root in rockwool in a humidome. Clones root in 5-10 depending on strain fastest I've had is deisel at 6 days to show and 8 to dirt. They stay green the whole time you don't need to cut leaves off or back to make up for lost nute source.
The thing most michiganders don't understand is that you don't cross two plants and all of a sudden have a new strain. You have a new f1 hybrid but you need to get down to the f4 generation where you only have 1-3 phenotypes in 100 seeds and they are uniform and stable. I'm not bashing anyone here or saying your not doing something right I just am an avid grower with a good background in biology and have been amateur breeding for the last 3 yrs which by no means makes me an expert. Honestly a first timer can get really lucky cross a plant make a selection over 2 generations and have a strain. But for the rest of us it'll take years for a new "strain"
We are going to need the help of cali's genetics we need cuts of male SVK and OG Kush any kind of "legendary" strains. We need to ban together and travel to get good strains like this and start to breed. We can use seed stock sold by seed companies but what you gotta realize is seed companies will not relese the real genetics that make up their strains and the seed form of whatever strain your buying is nothing like the original clone only versions just so the ordinary grower can't breed it and make money off it. The back bone of all seed companies come from having a golden ticket strain gifted to them or accuired through their work. Basicly being in the right place knowing the right people.
I do put the great green vibes of goodness your way hic and I hole you do come across something outstanding. Lol cloning is a huge part of breeding and just the testing phase do know it's also a hell of alot easier to test a large number of plants by inlisting the help of others to sift through the hundreds of plants to find a special pheno and I'm willing to be a part of it
. Lol
I got some good genetics to start with and plan to start my own small project because it's my next step. Meticulous growing technique every detail taken to the maximum. Perfect Ph, nutes, water, soil, atmosphere, everything. I've grown long enough to where the amazement of just growing the plant and now the extreme perfection comes in
Wild in Michigan due to our climate.
Hic the easiest way to clone is build an areo cloner it does the work for you with a 99% success rate there about 70$ to build but then you don't need any clone gel or root cubes nothing just Ph'd water and turn her on. All you need is a roughneck rubermaid tub gotta be roughneck. Neoprene inserts which you can order the actual ones from the areo cloner, PVC pipe, and a pond pump oh and drip irrigation sprayers. I built one in a half hour and it saves me weeks some times while waiting for clones to root in rockwool in a humidome. Clones root in 5-10 depending on strain fastest I've had is deisel at 6 days to show and 8 to dirt. They stay green the whole time you don't need to cut leaves off or back to make up for lost nute source.
The thing most michiganders don't understand is that you don't cross two plants and all of a sudden have a new strain. You have a new f1 hybrid but you need to get down to the f4 generation where you only have 1-3 phenotypes in 100 seeds and they are uniform and stable. I'm not bashing anyone here or saying your not doing something right I just am an avid grower with a good background in biology and have been amateur breeding for the last 3 yrs which by no means makes me an expert. Honestly a first timer can get really lucky cross a plant make a selection over 2 generations and have a strain. But for the rest of us it'll take years for a new "strain"
We are going to need the help of cali's genetics we need cuts of male SVK and OG Kush any kind of "legendary" strains. We need to ban together and travel to get good strains like this and start to breed. We can use seed stock sold by seed companies but what you gotta realize is seed companies will not relese the real genetics that make up their strains and the seed form of whatever strain your buying is nothing like the original clone only versions just so the ordinary grower can't breed it and make money off it. The back bone of all seed companies come from having a golden ticket strain gifted to them or accuired through their work. Basicly being in the right place knowing the right people.
I do put the great green vibes of goodness your way hic and I hole you do come across something outstanding. Lol cloning is a huge part of breeding and just the testing phase do know it's also a hell of alot easier to test a large number of plants by inlisting the help of others to sift through the hundreds of plants to find a special pheno and I'm willing to be a part of it
. LolI got some good genetics to start with and plan to start my own small project because it's my next step. Meticulous growing technique every detail taken to the maximum. Perfect Ph, nutes, water, soil, atmosphere, everything. I've grown long enough to where the amazement of just growing the plant and now the extreme perfection comes in
I have cm/mandala, mandala/tw, st/cm, cm's, and st. If any of those strains sound appealing to you KB then take them and give me a great cutting in 2 years.
I was going to start 30 seeds of CM,KB. I however thought about it long and hard and am convinced a suitible mother will be found for summer.. I however will plant a few more cm's in the summer to see if there are more phenos in these f-2's, before I make my stallion!.
I agree with ya KB, but things can be done easier then they may seem.."they try to make it sound hard" so you continue buying seeds,
kinda like church or something they tell you do, this to do that. and in reality God can be found under a F-ing rock.
I have big plans..I need big friends I agree KB soon I will have to make new friends, my old friends can't play this game. you wanna grow out some plants eh KB- I think you should wait until the vortex and agent orange f-2's are ready! but if you are ready I will not stop you.
I was going to start 30 seeds of CM,KB. I however thought about it long and hard and am convinced a suitible mother will be found for summer.. I however will plant a few more cm's in the summer to see if there are more phenos in these f-2's, before I make my stallion!.
I agree with ya KB, but things can be done easier then they may seem.."they try to make it sound hard" so you continue buying seeds,
kinda like church or something they tell you do, this to do that. and in reality God can be found under a F-ing rock.
I have big plans..I need big friends I agree KB soon I will have to make new friends, my old friends can't play this game. you wanna grow out some plants eh KB- I think you should wait until the vortex and agent orange f-2's are ready! but if you are ready I will not stop you.
well I was going back in time on our thread and I see I never took any pics of the "male hole" there were 3 males I had to choose from for the CM.. I picked the most afgan looking male "short/thick" for the f2's.. FYI Green Dave
thus the same male was used on trainwreck, and WW and ST
I chose the indica leaning mandala1 for the crosses I did with that strain. crossed TW and Blue CM
I chose the biggest pretiest ST male for F-2's and 2 crosses, crossed BlueCM and Jammy CM
thus the same male was used on trainwreck, and WW and ST
I chose the indica leaning mandala1 for the crosses I did with that strain. crossed TW and Blue CM
I chose the biggest pretiest ST male for F-2's and 2 crosses, crossed BlueCM and Jammy CM
