the favorite trich color for chopping

[GeeTee]

it is a nightmear flushing wiv that much water cos im up in a loft and ave to take buckets up there so it does take a while ive done it ure way b4 and wen i checked the run off at the final flush i still had a not normal EC (0.9) so i choose to give it to them to wash them clean, and they seem to like it

bro look go smoke a bowl and think bout it, if your harvesting soon and u dont have nute burns or problems with your plant then what the fuck does the soil runoff color got to do with anything? it does not affect taste or smell. people that tell u it will b harsh and shit but i dont see a fucking difference and thats running the same strains, so unless you just like to see a nice clear runoff then i dont see no point

 

[Brick Top]

bro look go smoke a bowl and think bout it, if your harvesting soon and u dont have nute burns or problems with your plant then what the fuck does the soil runoff color got to do with anything? it does not affect taste or smell. people that tell u it will b harsh and shit but i dont see a fucking difference and thats running the same strains, so unless you just like to see a nice clear runoff then i dont see no point

Cannabis plants are genetically coded to basically eat themselves, to self flush, as their life cycle ends. They switch from the soil as being their primary source of moisture and nutrients to it being secondary and the plants themselves as being primary, but they will still take in some moisture and nutrients from the soil.

When plants basically 'eat' themselves they not only use up stored nutrients, as in carbohydrates, but lose chlorophyll too. The less of each there is in a dried and cured harvest the smoother better tasting it will be.

Depending on if growing in soil, and growing totally organic or with chemical nutrients, or growing hydro, flushing is of more of less importance and the timing of it is different, but in all cases flushing will result in a smoother tastier smoke.

 

[GeeTee]

Cannabis plants are genetically coded to basically eat themselves, to self flush, as their life cycle ends. They switch from the soil as being their primary source of moisture and nutrients to it being secondary and the plants themselves as being primary, but they will still take in some moisture and nutrients from the soil.

When plants basically 'eat' themselves they not only use up stored nutrients, as in carbohydrates, but lose chlorophyll too. The less of each there is in a dried and cured harvest the smoother better tasting it will be.

Depending on if growing in soil, and growing totally organic or with chemical nutrients, or growing hydro, flushing is of more of less importance and the timing of it is different, but in all cases flushing will result in a smoother tastier smoke.

yes bricktop most of what you said can be achieved by just normal watering using straight water or water+molassas but you do not have to leech with 3xs the amount of pot size. also i grow with mg soil and products and ime it does not affect the smoke in any way and thats with clones of the same plant. the ash is always white when burned. if you want a smoother smoke dry your buds a lil more and itll be smoother, the more water content the harsher your smoke will be

 

[Brick Top]

yes bricktop most of what you said can be achieved by just normal watering using straight water or water+molassas but you do not have to leech with 3xs the amount of pot size. also i grow with mg soil and products and ime it does not affect the smoke in any way and thats with clones of the same plant. the ash is always white when burned. if you want a smoother smoke dry your buds a lil more and itll be smoother, the more water content the harsher your smoke will be

No offense intended, but you have a lot to learn.

 

[GeeTee]

No offense intended, but you have a lot to learn.

none taken, but your right i do have alot to learn im probably 1/2 your age and i intend to learn something everyday till i die so thats alot of learning. anyways what i posted is from my experiences and what ive tried. you dont have to agree but i will be doing whats best for me

 

[scott1M]

i think everyone works wiv wot works best for them.. but flushing the pots properly so the plant uses the stored energy left in the leafs.. the leafs die off as they get the life sucked out of them by the buds
wen i use to do it ure way my leafs would never really died back and stayed green till i harvested them, so they must have been feeding still from the pot to keep that sort of life going on.. and the bud was abit harsh...so i wash the pots clean wiv loads of water

 

[scott1M]

its good practise

 

[Brick Top]

none taken, but your right i do have alot to learn im probably 1/2 your age and i intend to learn something everyday till i die so thats alot of learning. anyways what i posted is from my experiences and what ive tried. you dont have to agree but i will be doing whats best for me

By all means do what you feel most comfortable with. But keep in mind that not all growing/harvesting/curing information has come from the accumulated experiences creating individual beliefs of people growing in basements, spare rooms, closets, shed, greenhouses, backyards or fields or woods.

There has been a great deal of actual scientific botanical research that has gone into cannabis plants, from seed through cure. Sadly extremely little of the proven facts that have been discovered ever end up being mentioned on sites like this, and what few are mentioned are normally vehemently argued against by the masses who instead believe the opinions of others that they have read or the opinions they have created for themselves.

 

[mr. green thumb 01]

To answer the question.... I start to flush when about 25% of the hairs are red. I usually flush for 1-2 weeks with clearex it has glucose and sucrose in it (sugars). I will usually harvest with 10-20% amber rest cloudy. I dont like to sleepy of a buzz. At harvest the hairs on the whole plant are usually 70-90% red. I have noticed that after harvest the trichs keep changing for some time. I have never heard of anyone harvesting with less than 50% of the pistils changed. Pistils may not be the best indication of when to harvest but they do help IMO. They contribute to the overall ripeness look of the plant and well I just cant harvest a plant unless in looks done no matter what color the trichs are IMO. You dont need a microscope to know when to harvest IMO

 

[Brick Top]

I will usually harvest with 10-20% amber rest cloudy. I dont like to sleepy of a buzz. At harvest the hairs on the whole plant are usually 70-90% red. I have noticed that after harvest the trichs keep changing for some time. I have never heard of anyone harvesting with less than 50% of the pistils changed. Pistils may not be the best indication of when to harvest but they do help IMO. They contribute to the overall ripeness look of the plant and well I just cant harvest a plant unless in looks done no matter what color the trichs are IMO. You dont need a microscope to know when to harvest IMO

Part of an article from Cannabis Culture Magazine

Harvesting in the morning ensures that your plant will be at peak THC content, as cannabis has shown THC fluctuations peaking in morning and dropping during the day. Some growers leave their lights off for several days before harvest to increase potency. This seems to have some scientific validity as light has been shown to degrade THC, hence the morning peaks. As light is the degrading factor and the plant still has the ability to manufacture THC during darkness, leaving the lights off for a day or two before harvest likely utilizes the plants stored potential for THC conversion without any opportunity for it to be degraded into cannabinol (CBN) and other breakdown products.


Your magnifying glass is your friend.



Traditionally marijuana has been harvested when the pistils die and the calyx starts to swell into a false seed pod. These days the best growers are getting much more detailed in their harvesting criteria. They take a close look at the trichomes themselves to judge peak harvest. Evidence that this is the only real way to tell peak maturity is in Sagarmatha's strain Matanuska Tundra, which ripens resin glands while most pistils are still alive and white. This seems an odd twist of evolution but proves that the pistil color and ripe glands do not necessarily have any correlation.




A small 25x or more pocket microscope, which can be picked up inexpensively at any electronic store, works well for taking a closer look at trichome development. What we are examining are the capitate stalked glandular trichomes, which will be a round gland head supported on a stalk. The coloration of these gland heads can vary between strains and maturity. Most strains start with clear or slightly amber heads which gradually become opaque when THC levels have peaked and are beginning to degrade. Regardless of the initial colour of the resin head, with careful observation you should be able to see a change in coloration as maturity levels off.


Some cultivators wait for about half of the heads to go opaque before harvest to ensure maximum THC levels in the bud. Of course nothing tells the truth more than your own head, so try samples at various stages to see what's right for you. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the bud by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, the bud will also have a larger proportion of THC breakdown products such as CBNs, which is why some people prefer to harvest earlier while most of the heads are still clear.

References:
1) Starks, Michael. 1977. Marijuana Chemistry Genetics, Processing and Potency. Ronin Publishing, Inc., Berkeley, CA pp. 17-86.
2) McParland, Clarke, Watson. Hemp Diseases and Pests; management and biological control, CABI Publishing, New York, NY
3) Pate, DW, 1994. Chemical ecology of Cannabis. Journal of the International Hemp Association 2: 29, 32-37.
4) Kutscheid, 1973. Quantitative variation in chemical constituents of marihuana from stands of naturalized Cannabis sativa L. in east central Illinois. Economic Botany 27: 193-203.
5) B?csa, M?th? and Hangyel. Effect of nitrogen on tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content in hemp leaves at different positions. 1997. Journal of the International Hemp Association 4(2): 78 -79.
6) Helen Philbrick and Richard B Gregg. Companion Plants and How to Use Them. 1996. Devin-Adair Company, Old Greenwich, CT.
7) Oldtimer1, 2001. Personal communication
Vic High, 2001. BC Growers Association. Web site and help desk.
9) Hoffman, Dr Silke. 2001. Ultraviolet radiation in the greenhouse. Floraculture International, May 2001. Ball Publishing, Batavia, Illinois. pp18-27.
? An excellent general reference is Marijuana Botany, by Robert Connell Clarke. Ronin Publishing, Inc. Berkeley, CA

 

[mr. green thumb 01]

i do not copy and past info nor do I read cannabis culture (only high times) but that was a strange quiescence. That was straight out of my head. Thats interesting about matanuska.

 

[Brick Top]

i do not copy and past info nor do I read cannabis culture (only high times) but that was a strange quiescence. That was straight out of my head. Thats interesting about matanuska.

I do copy and paste info when it comes from a reliable source, and as in this case has very impressive references behind the information. It tends to carry a whole lot more weight than someone's personal opinion and or personal belief.


If nothing else do consider the sources for the information. I believe they know a tad bit more about cannabis plants than anyone here does.

References:
1) Starks, Michael. 1977. marijuana Chemistry Genetics, Processing and Potency. Ronin Publishing, Inc., Berkeley, CA pp. 17-86.
2) McParland, Clarke, Watson. Hemp Diseases and Pests; management and biological control, CABI Publishing, New York, NY
3) Pate, DW, 1994. Chemical ecology of Cannabis. Journal of the International Hemp Association 2: 29, 32-37.
4) Kutscheid, 1973. Quantitative variation in chemical constituents of marihuana from stands of naturalized Cannabis sativa L. in east central Illinois. Economic Botany 27: 193-203.
5) B?csa, M?th? and Hangyel. Effect of nitrogen on tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content in hemp leaves at different positions. 1997. Journal of the International Hemp Association 4(2): 78 -79.
6) Helen Philbrick and Richard B Gregg. Companion Plants and How to Use Them. 1996. Devin-Adair Company, Old Greenwich, CT.
7) Oldtimer1, 2001. Personal communication
Vic High, 2001. BC Growers Association. Web site and help desk.
9) Hoffman, Dr Silke. 2001. Ultraviolet radiation in the greenhouse. Floraculture International, May 2001. Ball Publishing, Batavia, Illinois. pp18-27.
? An excellent general reference is marijuana Botany, by Robert Connell Clarke. Ronin Publishing, Inc. Berkeley, CA

 

[mr. green thumb 01]

I do copy and paste info when it comes from a reliable source, and as in this case has very impressive references behind the information. It tends to carry a whole lot more weight than someone's personal opinion and or personal belief.

If nothing else do consider the sources for the information. I believe they know a tad bit more about cannabis plants than anyone here does.

No one was saying otherwise....

 

[fatboyOGOF]

i always found this part a bit confusing:
"Some cultivators wait for about half of the heads to go opaque before harvest to ensure maximum THC levels in the bud. Of course nothing tells the truth more than your own head, so try samples at various stages to see what's right for you. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the bud by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, the bud will also have a larger proportion of THC breakdown products such as CBNs, which is why some people prefer to harvest earlier while most of the heads are still clear."


he says ""Some cultivators wait for about half of the heads to go opaque before harvest to ensure maximum THC levels in the bud" am i misreading or is he stating that at 50/50 clear/cloudy thc is at it's peak in trichs?

because he then says:
"While you may be increasing the total THC level in the bud by allowing half of the glands to go opaque..." which unless i'm misreading this seems to indicate that THC levels increase as the trichs turn cloudy. seems to be contradictory with the first statement.

if indeed THC levels peak when the trichs are 50/50 clear/cloudy i find it amusing that most growers prefer their trichs mostly cloudy to mostly cloudy with varing percentages of amber, which would seem to mean that most of us like less thc and more cbd in our bud. english is my first language so if i'm missing something key in what this gentleman said, please let me know what it is. no flowery language, just the facts!

i didn't notice who the author of the above is but i have seen it quoted on 4 different boards. now i have to go figure out who he is.

i also read cervante's med grower's bible saying to cut when 50% are opaque (not exact quote but too lazy to find it). i thought he was referring to half cloudy and half amber but going by this article, apparently not. although he did contradict himself a few times in this book. fucking stoners.

for a long time i harvested when the trichs were 1/2 clear and 1/2 cloudy but only because my genetics are so good i needed weaker weed to be able to kick back and smoke all day.

thank goodness i've been doing this for a long time and i know what i like!