Health Care

skunkushybrid

New Member
michael moore did not give the whole picture to american lifestyle. He still lives in the states doesnt he? the thing that some of us in the health care field don't like about socialized medicine is that it limits the doctor's income. I beleive the one doc they interviewed in the movie only made 90K pounds. Which isnt alot for the amount of education he has
Exactly. If he wanted to work as a private doctor he could and make more money. Some doctors just prefer to work for the government... find it more rewarding, would you believe...
 

ccodiane

New Member
I didn't mean the country as a whole. I meant only in regards to this subject.

and in regards to this subject, America sucks.:mrgreen:
Originally Posted by skunkushybrid I'd just never looked at the US health system before, never imagined something so vital could be run with so little compassion.

Yeah, I can see you have really strengthened your weak position since yesterday, the first time you "looked at the US health system before"! hahahahaah:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen: This is absolutely, positively, patent lib. "I watched "Sicko" 2 days ago and now I'm an expert on the US medical field today!" Yay! You are a shining example of what it is to be ignorant.
 

bongspit

New Member
wow...ccodiane you gone over 1000 post!!!:roll:
not many post about the marijuana culture...maybe you would be more comfortable at....www.myrepublicanblog.blogspot.com/
 

ccodiane

New Member
Exactly. If he wanted to work as a private doctor he could and make more money. Some doctors just prefer to work for the government... find it more rewarding, would you believe...
Not a chance. Shortages of beds, staff, and supplies doesn't make one "love their job". Quite the opposite actually.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Originally Posted by skunkushybrid I'd just never looked at the US health system before, never imagined something so vital could be run with so little compassion.

Yeah, I can see you have really strengthened your weak position since yesterday, the first time you "looked at the US health system before"! hahahahaah:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen: This is absolutely, positively, patent lib. "I watched "Sicko" 2 days ago and now I'm an expert on the US medical field today!" Yay! You are a shining example of what it is to be ignorant.
and what am I ignorant of? Instead of shouting and screaming like a little girl, why don't you instead take the tim to explain to me my misconceptions.

Maybe tell me that little kids don't die because they can't get the health care... that'll be a good start.
 

ccodiane

New Member
and what am I ignorant of? Instead of shouting and screaming like a little girl, why don't you instead take the tim to explain to me my misconceptions.

Maybe tell me that little kids don't die because they can't get the health care... that'll be a good start.
Because you started off insulting my country. Thats not how it works. "Your mommas a fat bitch, whats the Capitol of California?" Sacra..............What the fuck did you just say!!!
 

ccodiane

New Member
Remember this? Your very first post. Unbelievable. Your first post since watching "Sicko" the night before. And "Sicko" somehow conveyed all of this to you?


I watched the film sicko last night. I cannot believe how money oriented your Government really is.

You're all brainwashed too.

Little kids are left to die. If they did that to us in our country, I know we'd have a revolution.

You can't even vote for Clinton as she is now paid by the med ins companies too.

Wow, you guys are suckers. Money money money. Little pices of paper that aren't worth shit...

Oh well, so long as it isn't you, right... next time though, it could be.
 

ccodiane

New Member
wow...ccodiane you gone over 1000 post!!!:roll:
not many post about the marijuana culture...maybe you would be more comfortable at....www.myrepublicanblog.blogspot.com/
But every one, at least most, pertinent, even on the Marijuana culture!
 

Inneedofbuds

Well-Known Member
wow...ccodiane you gone over 1000 post!!!:roll:
not many post about the marijuana culture...maybe you would be more comfortable at....www.myrepublicanblog.blogspot.com/
no, there he would be surrounded with like-minded people, which would be the opposite of what he wants; to stand out like a soar thumb and grab attention.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Remember this? Your very first post. Unbelievable. Your first post since watching "Sicko" the night before. And "Sicko" somehow conveyed all of this to you?
Yes, it did.

Now argue against it if you can. As well as taking in the words of my first post you must also consider the thread TITLE. Which is the subject in hand. Yes, the film sicko did convey all of that to me in regards to the US health care system.

You got anything substantial to say or are you going to continue kicking and screaming like a bitch?
 

Inneedofbuds

Well-Known Member
I watched the film sicko last night. I cannot believe how money oriented your Government really is.

You're all brainwashed too.

Little kids are left to die. If they did that to us in our country, I know we'd have a revolution.

You can't even vote for Clinton as she is now paid by the med ins companies too.

Wow, you guys are suckers. Money money money. Little pices of paper that aren't worth shit...

Oh well, so long as it isn't you, right... next time though, it could be.
In Ccodaine's defense (and I cant believe i am coming to his defense) you could have worded things a lot better. You phrase it like its an attack on American citizens personally. There are several of us that believe the same thing you do and are fighting to make a positive change. We don't like to be called suckers or brain-washed. And yes, Sicko is just one documentary, and Michael Moore is a propogandist. There is two sides to every story. You should do a bit more homework before you start throwing around insults. What could have been an intelligent observation sounds like nothing more than open critisism of the American people.
 

ViRedd

New Member
One thing you can be sure of ... if Michael Moore had a heart attack from eating all the garbage and slop that pig eats, he surely wouldn't go to Cuba or any other country that has a government monopolized medical system. He's a multi-millionaire ... millions that he's made off of the dupes who believe the anti-American propaganda bullshit he spews out on the movie screens across the world. He would use the best doctors in the finest medical facilities in the U.S. for his bypass surgery. And guess what ... he'd get the surgery the very same day he had the heart attack.

And to answer one question asked here: NO, children are NOT dying in this country because of the lack of insurance or because they're poor. We have a FEDERAL law that prohibits hospital emergency rooms from turning down ANYONE who cannot pay. Most counties have county hospitals where folks who lack funds can go to get treatment. Many doctors donate their time and expertise FREE to these patients. And on that subject, illegal aliens are overburdening our hospitals and taking care away from citizens who are here legally.

For you dupes who think America is a non-compassionate country, or that Americans in general are not a charitable people, ask yourselves where you heard that. Then ask yourselves; does that person or source of information have an agenda? There are people and organizations who HATE capitalism and will do anything to destroy it ... including lying to you. Michael Moore falls into that catagory.

Vi

 

Inneedofbuds

Well-Known Member
One thing you can be sure of ... if Michael Moore had a heart attack from eating all the slop that pig eats, he surely wouldn't go to Cuba or any other country that has a government monopolized medical system. He's a multi-millionaire ... millioins that he's made off of the dupes who believe the propaganda bullshit he spews out on the movie screens of the world. He would use the best doctors, in the finest medical facilities in the U.S. for his bypass surgery. And guess what ... he'd get the surgery the very same day he had the heart attack.

Vi
This is a question, not rhetorical sarcasm or anything. Is it possible to have both? Can we provide free healthcare for the poor while allowing the rich people to buy all the fancy shmancy stuff?
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
This is a question, not rhetorical sarcasm or anything. Is it possible to have both? Can we provide free healthcare for the poor while allowing the rich people to buy all the fancy shmancy stuff?
That's how it works in my country.

I realise my comments may have all too easily been misconstrued, but I was speaking figuratively. Obviously the majority of US citizens believe it is fine to let people die because they can't afford health care... obviously, if the majority of US citizens actually believe this is ok, then I am going to assume that the majority have been brainwashed.

I agree, my words could, if one so chose, be misinterpreted... however i believe most on these boeards are intelligent enough to realise exactly what I meant without my having to go into detail. However, there is always one...
 

ViRedd

New Member
This is a question, not rhetorical sarcasm or anything. Is it possible to have both? Can we provide free healthcare for the poor while allowing the rich people to buy all the fancy shmancy stuff?
What you're really asking is, "is there a third way?" You're looking for a way between socialism and capitalism. Its never worked before because socialism leads society down the Road to Serfdom. The best way, the most moral way, the way to establish and maintain the most freedom and liberty, is through capitalism and individual charity.

Here is one of the most important books ever to be written on the subject in the history of Mankind. I heartily recommend that you, and other's in this forum read it. Especially if you've been duped by the likes of Michael Moore.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/sandstrom1.html

Vi
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Here is my question:

Why is this so?

The U.S. is one of the world's few industrialized nations that does not guarantee access to health care, and the only developed nation that does not offer free health care.
Health care in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I mean, we are the richest and most powerful nation in the world...why the hell can't we have free health care like everybody else?

I tried to find a chart showing where we rank in the world, but could not. According to "Sicko" we are ranked like 83rd or something just above Lithuania. Is this true, and if so who calculates this? Surely there is something that can be done......:-?
 
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