The $30,800 BCNL Big Kahuna With Cheese

arik maso

arik maso

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Brick Top said:
If on top of the price he'll throw in an 18 year old skinny big-boobed blonde hooker once a week I'd come grow for him ... at least for a year ...... or until the hooker gives me a heart attack ... whichever would come first I could not guess ... I am nearing 56 years old though so it might be the heart attack.
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^^haha that post made me smile

if you really wanna grow 50 lbs a year indoor, you might wanna start with a good outdoor season first just to see how weed grows and get that hands on experience under your belt. but hey... im not trying to be a hater. i'm sure outdoor grow space with direct sunlight is hard to come by for most people, so i totally understand your reasoning for wanting to go big indoors. i just don't think those 30k pre-fab systems are worth the price. you should try to meet a contractor/weed grower and get some help setting things up. but anyways, good luck!! i hope it all works out for you
 
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davidmilam3

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GibbsIt89 said:
ya man its not too hard, just do some homwork, and i give you credit for researching and asking questions, there is alot of ppl on this website who just post a thread about every question they have and wait for ppl to answer it for them instead of going around in the forums/threads and researching.

but dude just for example, i am a complete newb, i have learnt everything i currently know off this website and from current RIU members, i dont take anything into consideration unless it is just basic facts, other then that, to me alot of it is just trial and error/experimenting. I first started growing in january 2010.. my first plant in my appartment, long story short i jumped to 42 plants in july 2010, did alot of learning, fucked alot of things up but again, all a huge learning experience as i said before in agreeing with "starting small instead of big first now" lol. Let me get to the point tho...

here is a list of my equipment below.. i dont have EVERYTHING nessisary like ventilation mainly (intake/exhaust), but you will get the drift... with JUST this equipment i had created a grow plan of harvesting a pound a week, over a year that is 52 pounds! i haven't had the funds to get it up and running like buying high output fans etc etc but it all totally makes sense to me that i should have no problem getting 52 pounds a year.. this of course as long as i have the cycle up and running before the harvesting begins weekly for that year. There of course has to be room for error as im a newb and definetly dont think i can grow an ounce per plant, that requires knowledge of proper pot sizes (ive just bin growin in soiless mix to get the hang of things), flowering time/rooting time etc. for strains, temperature ranging, how long i veg, etc etc. etc.. i would be harvesting 16 plants a week and striving for an ounce per plant... here is my grow equipment (everything in red, i recieved from a friend for a half ounce of amazingly cured purple kush, i was VERY lucky, stuff can get hella expensive):

LIGHTING
(1) 1000 watt hps ballast (brand new)
(1) 1000 watt mh ballast
(1) 400 watt mh ballast

(2) 1000 watt hps bulbs (1 brand new)
(1) 1000 watt mh cold bulb (7200k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 400 watt mh warm bulb (3200k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 400 watt mh cold bulb
(2) 400 watt mh cold bulbs (7200k spectrum, brand new)
(2) 24 watt t5 tubes (6400k spectrum, brand new)
(2) 26 watt cfl bulbs (6400k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 45 watt LED grow panel (compared to 250watt HID)

EQUIPMENT
(1) light mover ($300, wtf! lol)
(1) RH/Temp meter
(1) water purifier (broken at the moment, bin using distilled water with 0 ppm)
(2) air purifiers
(2) ph test kits (one is drops, other are strips)
(1) dehumidifier
(3) oci. fans
(1) water pump
(5) air pumps

NUTRIENTS
(2) bottles DNF GroA
(2) bottles DNF GroB
(2) bottles DNF BloA
(2) bottles DNF BloB
(1) bottle DNF Green
(1) bottle DNF Gold
(1) bottle DNF Black
(1) bottle DNF Clear
(1) bottle DNF Enhance
(1) cont. DNF Veg fortifier
(1) cont. DNF Bloom fortifier
(1) cont. DNF Carbo logic
(1) cont. Bat Guano ("flowering period") (unopend)

TRAY/CLONING/SOIL
(1) cloning tray with 7inch tall dome
(90) 1"inch rockwool cubes
(50) rapid rooters
(1) bottle cloning gel
(1) bail of Pro-mix HP (originally was using the Bx, but get more feeds in with HP indoors)

this is a list i just stole from my current grow thread in my signature where ive listed my equipment (made things easier then retypeing everything). I of course wouldnt be using my air pumps or water pump cuz id be doing this in soil/pots at first just becuz i already hav all that stuff. Here is the grow plan (each line is a one week period):

-root
-root, root 2nd
-veg LED, root 2nd, root 3rd
-veg LED, veg 2nd, root 3rd, root 4th
-flower 1000watt HPS,veg 2nd, veg 3rd, root 4th, root 5th
-flower 1000watt HPS, flower 2nd, veg 3rd, veg 4th, root 5th
-flower 1000watt HPS, flower 2nd, flower 3rd,veg 4th, veg 5th
-flower 1000watt HPS, flower 2nd, flower 3rd,flower 4th, veg 5th
-flower 1000watt HPS, flower 2nd, flower 3rd, flower 4th, flower 5th
-flower 1000watt HPS, flower 2nd, flower 3rd, flower 4th, flower 5th
-flower 1000watt HPS, flower 2nd, flower 3rd, flower 4th, flower 5th
-flower 1000watt HPS, flower 2nd, flower 3rd, flower 4th, flower 5th
-HARVEST, flower 2nd, flower 3rd, flower 4th, flower 5th
-HARVEST 2nd, flower 3rd, flower 4th, flower 5th
-HARVEST 3rd,flower 4th, flower 5th
-HARVEST 4th,flower 5th
-HARVEST 5th,


This of course would run continueously, just didnt want to keep typing it out for 52 weeks lol.. but as you can see after about 12 weeks i would begin harvesting every week. ALSO as you can see i am only using:

-CFLs/T5s - cloneing
-LED panel - Veg
-1000watt HPS on a 6' light rail with light mover - FLOWER

Your probly curious about my LED panel as there are so many different kinds/pricing etc. etc. I dont know shit about LEDs i just picked this little panel up that measures 1'x1'x2", runs 45 watts, 45 1watt LEDs dual spectrum red&blue so i could technically flower with it if i wanted to but i only veg for 2 weeks under it with this cycle.. i purchased the LED panel for $140 just as an experiment to see how well they do..

HOPE THIS WASNT TOO MUCH TO COMPREHEND & I HOPE IT HELPS

GibbsIt89
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Wow, that was very helpful. Thank you very much for the time. I will probably refer back to this post numerous time. Thank you.
 
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davidmilam3

Member
arik maso said:
^^haha that post made me smile

if you really wanna grow 50 lbs a year indoor, you might wanna start with a good outdoor season first just to see how weed grows and get that hands on experience under your belt. but hey... im not trying to be a hater. i'm sure outdoor grow space with direct sunlight is hard to come by for most people, so i totally understand your reasoning for wanting to go big indoors. i just don't think those 30k pre-fab systems are worth the price. you should try to meet a contractor/weed grower and get some help setting things up. but anyways, good luck!! i hope it all works out for you
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I really don't have an option for outdoors. Wish i did. That's a good idea. I'm actually talking to some different growers i know now. I'm about talked out of the BCNL system. Thanks
 
GibbsIt89

GibbsIt89

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davidmilam3 said:
Wow, that was very helpful. Thank you very much for the time. I will probably refer back to this post numerous time. Thank you.
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NO PROBLEM bro, thats what we are all here for, im 21 and just learning, i have come a long way, just need to put things into practice to get the hang of things and to dial everything in correctly. Right now i have 3 LST'd kush mothers at my friends under a 1000watt MH (forgot to metion that, you would need to have your mothers under something continuously vegging so you can take clones as often as possible, in my case id need to take 16 clones every week lol!). The 1000watt MH will definetly ensure 16 new clones every week are available, probly more becuz they are all topped and LST'd.

i was able to take 17 clones, a good 8 were hardcore rooted so i transplanted them to 6"x6"x6" pots under my LED.. just waiting for the rest to root then i will be starting a new grow.
 
GibbsIt89

GibbsIt89

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davidmilam3 said:
I really don't have an option for outdoors. Wish i did. That's a good idea. I'm actually talking to some different growers i know now. I'm about talked out of the BCNL system. Thanks
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GOOOD, i was worried for you man, i mean $30,000? FUCK THAT lol.. i can appreciate your understanding of what you would be bringing in money wise after you got things going but still, can't say i would ever do that, i would slowly buy equipment overtime and make sure it was what i would need down the road so i wouldnt be spending extra money on upgrading.

and thats too bad i was really looking forward to a little trip lol
 
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john petrucci

Member
Maybe I am just paranoid, but am I only one that thinks there is something strange about this? This sounds like a set up. What grower that claims they have experience wants to drop 30k on BCNL products like its nothing and just start up a 50lbs a year operation right off the bat? I just googled some recent busts in Texas and this came up http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2010-12-10/authorities-arrest-three-marijuana-bust .
I mean no disrespect to davidmilam3; I just wanted to point something out to people considering getting involved in this.
 
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davidmilam3

Member
john petrucci said:
Maybe I am just paranoid, but am I only one that thinks there is something strange about this? This sounds like a set up. What grower that claims they have experience wants to drop 30k on BCNL products like its nothing and just start up a 50lbs a year operation right off the bat? I just googled some recent busts in Texas and this came up http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2010-12-10/authorities-arrest-three-marijuana-bust .
I mean no disrespect to davidmilam3; I just wanted to point something out to people considering getting involved in this.
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If you read the entire thing, i claim to have minimal experience. If you actually go and look at the system i was talking about and read the entire thread, i believe you will understand why I was interested.
No disrespect takin. Other than i hate cops. lol nothing against cops, i guess i just got pulled over one to many times with unpaid speeding tickets back in the day and have a little resentment built up.

Anyways, definitely not a set up. About to check out your link though.
 
mrbill

mrbill

Active Member
Interesting Post....FYI I'm a Proud Bloombox owner. I've own mine since 2007 and usually run 2-3 cycles a year. Like most folks here I read much more than I post. That doesn't make me stupid or others "smarter." You'll find growing to be an education you can't buy at Harvard. But the Bloombox DOES take a lot of guess work out of the equation. The system runs flawlessly. The only thing I've added to my unit is a water chiller to keep my rez temps at 66 degress. (I've posted pics of my setup and yield on other posts). I don't sell. What I grow is for me and family - and everyone is pleased. I'd suggested you start with a Producer/Bloombox and add from there.

With regard to BCNL Customer service. They are second to none!! Just today my ballast crapped out. It was 20 days out of a 3 year warranty. BCNL is shipping me a NEW ONE at no charge. I got no grieve from them. Just a desire to please their customer - me!

Final thought..yes you can grow "cheaper." In fact you can stick a seed in the grown and it will grow - after all this a weed! But the Bloombox/Producer will ensure you get top quality product with little to no effort and pretty Stealthy too.

Beware of those that might hate what they can't afford. Many football fans hate the New England Patriots and it's not because they lose. Good luck with whatever your final decision is.
 
Ronjohn7779

Ronjohn7779

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mrbill said:
Interesting Post....FYI I'm a Proud Bloombox owner. I've own mine since 2007 and usually run 2-3 cycles a year. Like most folks here I read much more than I post. That doesn't make me stupid or others "smarter." You'll find growing to be an education you can't buy at Harvard. But the Bloombox DOES take a lot of guess work out of the equation. The system runs flawlessly. The only thing I've added to my unit is a water chiller to keep my rez temps at 66 degress. (I've posted pics of my setup and yield on other posts). I don't sell. What I grow is for me and family - and everyone is pleased. I'd suggested you start with a Producer/Bloombox and add from there.

With regard to BCNL Customer service. They are second to none!! Just today my ballast crapped out. It was 20 days out of a 3 year warranty. BCNL is shipping me a NEW ONE at no charge. I got no grieve from them. Just a desire to please their customer - me!

Final thought..yes you can grow "cheaper." In fact you can stick a seed in the grown and it will grow - after all this a weed! But the Bloombox/Producer will ensure you get top quality product with little to no effort and pretty Stealthy too.

Beware of those that might hate what they can't afford. Many football fans hate the New England Patriots and it's not because they lose. Good luck with whatever your final decision is.
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Sounds like you work for them...Or are totally brainwashed by shit marketing.
 
mrbill

mrbill

Active Member
Ronjohn7779 said:
Sounds like you work for them...Or are totally brainwashed by shit marketing.
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I don't work for anyone... So unless you have something useful to add to David's post...Shove it!! You are excately the type of Moron I refer to when I say "Beware of those that might hate what they can't afford." I see you have been here on RUI for 18 months and you have over 900 posts, compared to my 3 plus years and 25 posts! Again, Moron, keep it relevant, if you are in fact capable of posting anything useful.
Peace...
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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mrbill said:
I don't work for anyone... So unless you have something useful to add to David's post...Shove it!! You are excately the type of Moron I refer to when I say "Beware of those that might hate what they can't afford." I see you have been here on RUI for 18 months and you have over 900 posts, compared to my 3 plus years and 25 posts! Again, Moron, keep it relevant, if you are in fact capable of posting anything useful.
Peace...
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Do you have any pictures of your grows?
 
mrbill

mrbill

Active Member
NLXSK1 said:
Do you have any pictures of your grows?
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I do...and as I mentioned in my earlier post above: ("I've posted pics of my setup and yield on other posts"). Just use the search feature and type Bloombox or Producer or BCNL or "grow box" and you'll find plenty of pics - including a couple of mine - from Owners of these Boxes who are satisfied. For everyone else that might read this please remember not everyone is looking to be a "dealer" or wanting to harvest 15 pounds a day! In my case, it's mainly for a legal medical MJ patient who is also a family member. The Bloombox to us is God sent. I make no apologies to anyone for owning one.

davidmilam3, feel free to message me if you have any questions for me.
 
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davidmilam3

Member
mrbill said:
I do...and as I mentioned in my earlier post above: ("I've posted pics of my setup and yield on other posts"). Just use the search feature and type Bloombox or Producer or BCNL or "grow box" and you'll find plenty of pics - including a couple of mine - from Owners of these Boxes who are satisfied. For everyone else that might read this please remember not everyone is looking to be a "dealer" or wanting to harvest 15 pounds a day! In my case, it's mainly for a legal medical MJ patient who is also a family member. The Bloombox to us is God sent. I make no apologies to anyone for owning one.

davidmilam3, feel free to message me if you have any questions for me.
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Yes, I definitely have some questions for you. I'm a little tied up at work right now, but I will get them to you asap. Thanks
 
Goose42

Goose42

Member
Ronjohn7779 said:
Sounds like you work for them...Or are totally brainwashed by shit marketing.
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agreed. this whole posts seems like a marketing research ploy gone south because we are all too high lol. Anyone with 30k to spend a grow op would never even look at the fuckin box, let alone be involved in a 10 page thread about it.

IDK about your situation MR bill, my two cents is dedicated to the dude who started this thread
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Goose42 said:
agreed. this whole posts seems like a marketing research ploy gone south because we are all too high lol. Anyone with 30k to spend a grow op would never even look at the fuckin box, let alone be involved in a 10 page thread about it.

IDK about your situation MR bill, my two cents is dedicated to the dude who started this thread
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David seems legit, he isnt pushing the system. I went back and read Mrbills posts and he isnt pushing the system either.

Maybe we are all to paranoid :P
 
Goose42

Goose42

Member
NLXSK1 said:
David seems legit, he isnt pushing the system. I went back and read Mrbills posts and he isnt pushing the system either.

Maybe we are all to paranoid :P
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fair enough. i def get paranoid when i see a stoner with 30 grand and excellent grammar. Thats like the hippie (cop) wearing dress shoes lol
 
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