TheJointProject
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just time right now my friend. sit back and smoke a bowl and just think of how cool their gonna look in 2 weeks.
Variety Grow - Perpetual, "Mini" ScrOG's, DWC in a Cabinet (First Timer)
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Oh believe me! Those are the attributes which got me AND the girls to this point in the first place. You don't know how many times I pack a bowl, pull up the workbench to have a sit, put on my sunglasses (need to think about using sunscreen...seriously), and sit and watch every leaf flutter in the breeze always with the thought "another millimeter longer". And then I'll sit back all of a sudden and proclaim Holy Shit! I built this!
Fuckin' A' Man 
Time to start thinking about another chamber!!
It's Winter in So Cal and there's no better time to turn up the Watts and GROW!
gumball
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No, you need to start thinking about an outdoor next spring!! Did you see the outdoor california blue dream buds cruzer101 pulled from his greenhouse? MASSIVE!! Don't know if you can do outdoor, but maybe.
Can you take a full frontal picture of your entire cab next time your out there?
Can you take a full frontal picture of your entire cab next time your out there?
Hell GB, I'm an old man! It's hard to get a 9 foot tall cabinet all in one pic without having to lay flat on the garage floor and shoot up! I have HiLoft hanging shelf units which drop down 2.5 feet below the ceiling which blocks a good full frontal shot. Right now it's lights out in the middle cab. The top cab is my current 250w MH chamber (which is currently turned off) and the bottom one is planned to be another flower chamber; doors cut and everything.
Winter seems to be solving my air temp problems at the moment. Right now all it would take is to purchase another 400w CMH ballast/bulb and 2 more drink coolers and four more clones and I can be flowering in that top cab in no time. So the question is should I conservatively sit back and see how this one goes or should I go big and get #2 fired up?
I have HiLoft hanging shelf units which drop down 2.5 feet below the ceiling which blocks a good full frontal shot. Right now it's lights out in the middle cab. The top cab is my current 250w MH chamber (which is currently turned off) and the bottom one is planned to be another flower chamber; doors cut and everything.Winter seems to be solving my air temp problems at the moment. Right now all it would take is to purchase another 400w CMH ballast/bulb and 2 more drink coolers and four more clones and I can be flowering in that top cab in no time. So the question is should I conservatively sit back and see how this one goes or should I go big and get #2 fired up?
gumball
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I would slowly work on the next cab. Gives yu something to tinker with so you don't have to just watch the current flower chamber, and the end result will be more space. Just don't get to carried away, KISS! I think I would stay with the 250 watt until your sure it is a good environment with that wattage. Once all environments are stable then I would look into the 400 CMH for the top cab. Just some food for thought, but we know if your grow is going smoothly you will have a lot of downtime to tinker. I am glad your grow is going smoothly!
Awesome shot, thanks for that. I will look at it on my big computer at home and see if I can come up with any ideas for ya!
Awesome shot, thanks for that. I will look at it on my big computer at home and see if I can come up with any ideas for ya!
Well GB you've given me a thought. Remember that 20 year old film cannister of beans? What were you saying about planning for a spring grow? Didn't I recently hear my wife asking me about how we can plant something to screen out the AC compressor in our California natively landscaped backyard, that happens to be facing south at 34* latitude? Do you think 6 sq ft, 3 ft high with a 250w MH bulb would be enough to vegetate some seedlings? Hmmm, I'm not sure. That damn universe keeps buzzing in my ear....
gumball
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I think that would be a great veg chamber, and it will make your wife uber happy!! Anytime you can please your spouse and yourself at the same time is a win for the whole team. I think those beans would work great for this too. You don't want to many flower cabs, after all you will at some point find a strain which you want to keep 
Dans idea with the frig is great too, but you seen what happened to Dan, he is a frigoholic!! Just kidding Daniels, your frigs are and will be epic for years to come. Especially when we talk you into doing a vertical flood system in one of 'em
Dans idea with the frig is great too, but you seen what happened to Dan, he is a frigoholic!! Just kidding Daniels, your frigs are and will be epic for years to come. Especially when we talk you into doing a vertical flood system in one of 'em
Danielsgb
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Get your first FREE light proof, fully cleanable chamber, Pimp it out & I bet you want another too. I'm closer to a Freezerholic nowDans idea with the frig is great too, but you seen what happened to Dan, he is a frigoholic!! Just kidding Daniels, your frigs are and will be epic for years to come. Especially when we talk you into doing a vertical flood system in one of 'em
.That RDWC does look so tempting. Someday Gumball, someday.
I'm as sold on these fridges/freezers as I am on these CMH.
Daniels
I'll make you a deal. You setup a DWC cooler in your freezer and I'll go by a freezer and do the same thing!Get your first FREE light proof, fully cleanable chamber, Pimp it out & I bet you want another too. I'm closer to a Freezerholic now
That RDWC does look so tempting. Someday Gumball, someday.
I'm as sold on these fridges/freezers as I am on these CMH.
Daniels
That is after I fill out these two empty chambers. 
Danielsgb
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Did you two PM each other to draw me to the Dark Side?I'll make you a deal. You setup a DWC cooler in your freezer and I'll go by a freezer and do the same thing!
Daniels
gumball
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im right there with you pal!! if my wife ever finds a job I can build an outdoor building and maybe I can find a fridge to retro for out there.Get your first FREE light proof, fully cleanable chamber, Pimp it out & I bet you want another too. I'm closer to a Freezerholic now
That RDWC does look so tempting. Someday Gumball, someday.
I'm as sold on these fridges/freezers as I am on these CMH.
Daniels
gumball
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LOL, no really i did!Did you two PM each other to draw me to the Dark Side?OK, I'm in. My hydro may be a Ebb & flow, or DWC. I'll work on it once spring is here so temps cooperate. No need to Buy a Freezer. Craigslist should get you a free one.
Daniels
gumball
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here you go. hope you dont mind me posting up your thread JSG, thats funny those are my initials!!!! the thread was started beginning of the year, but its still going 
Jigfresh's Grow #3 - Flooded Tube Vertical - Querkle, Odyssey - 1000w
Jigfresh's Grow #3 - Flooded Tube Vertical - Querkle, Odyssey - 1000w
Huh? I thought you were Darth Vader and I was Luke! Boy it's no fun when there is no dark side!Did you two PM each other to draw me to the Dark Side?OK, I'm in. My hydro may be a Ebb & flow, or DWC. I'll work on it once spring is here so temps cooperate. No need to Buy a Freezer. Craigslist should get you a free one.
Daniels
If you get to choose your Hydro method, then I get to choose whether I do a fridge, freezer (as long as I can justify it as such
) or PC case. OMG I just looked over at my wife who has no clue about the ramifications of what I'm typing right now. Obi wan, it's me Luke. Trust your feelings! Let go! Let go!
Hmmm, have you been dipping into that Blue Dream a bit too much?you know, i found a thread the other day that had a 1000 watt, i think, vertical in a space not much bigger than your freezer. i think it was hydro. where was that damn thread now
be right back
Oh man I love it when people post in my thread as long as they don't mind reading the long winded drivel I sometimes espose.here you go. hope you dont mind me posting up your thread JSG, thats funny those are my initials!!!! the thread was started beginning of the year, but its still going
Jigfresh's Grow #3 - Flooded Tube Vertical - Querkle, Odyssey - 1000w
And besides as long as you give me rep you can hijack all you want! i can be bought. 
So how close together in the phone book are we? My youngest has my initials too and my oldest has my wifes. Kinda worked out that way.
Danielsgb
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You two are the Sith. My soil is how they grew for hundreds of years.Huh? I thought you were Darth Vader and I was Luke! Boy it's no fun when there is no dark side!
If you get to choose your Hydro method, then I get to choose whether I do a fridge, freezer (as long as I can justify it as such
Hmmm, have you been dipping into that Blue Dream a bit too much?
Oh man I love it when people post in my thread as long as they don't mind reading the long winded drivel I sometimes espose.
Luke: "Vader... Is the dark side stronger?"
Yoda: "No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive."
Luke: "But how am I to know the good side from the bad?"
Yoda: "You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive.
UB or RiddleMe is my Yoda. Be patient and learn to read them.
I think Gumball is deep in the Blue Dream
tonight.I'll go DWC but my lights are fixed, so reservoir issues make me wonder. Here I am planning ahead. A mini-DWC in my PC just isn't as much fun, so talk the wifey into an Appliance.
Really jsgamber, PC's were so September.
Daniels
gumball
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This was a funny morning read!! No blue dream last night as I am trying to save the last bit, it was number 2 I think, and blue can, bud light blue.
Luke, I think the flooded tube would really be ideal. That grow of Jigfresh was pretty good, huh. And it is so modular, you can add an elbow and start flowering more soon, or remove and veg less longer! DWC is cool, but something about flood and drain attracts me. Maybe cause the roots aren't in the water 100% of the time and its more like the make it rain technique. But if you go DWC, I don't think you'll have rez temp problems because you have an intake on the very bottom and then about a foot or so up from there.
Anakin, PC's are great, and I have seen many people pull great harvests from them, but your legal. So bump up the space and get a minifridge at least. You already dealing with them with your cooling, so I am sure you have thought of how to re-engineer it into a grow chamber. Plus they are insulated.
We are aways away in the phone book Gamber, I'm Go, so a good bit away.
I'd pay ya this week, but I gotta pay some others first, then I will pay you off
Luke, I think the flooded tube would really be ideal. That grow of Jigfresh was pretty good, huh. And it is so modular, you can add an elbow and start flowering more soon, or remove and veg less longer! DWC is cool, but something about flood and drain attracts me. Maybe cause the roots aren't in the water 100% of the time and its more like the make it rain technique. But if you go DWC, I don't think you'll have rez temp problems because you have an intake on the very bottom and then about a foot or so up from there.
Anakin, PC's are great, and I have seen many people pull great harvests from them, but your legal. So bump up the space and get a minifridge at least. You already dealing with them with your cooling, so I am sure you have thought of how to re-engineer it into a grow chamber. Plus they are insulated.
We are aways away in the phone book Gamber, I'm Go, so a good bit away.
I'd pay ya this week, but I gotta pay some others first, then I will pay you off
I think they are recovering from shock. I've sprayed them at lights on with ThriveAlive Green and they are a bit greener than they were last night. SOG #1 is still droopier than the others but all are a bit perkier. All of them want to stand up when I lift the screen so they remain turgid.
Should I remove the fully yellowed leaves or leave them on?
I'm hoping the first two nodes recover and produce stems. If they do, who thinks I should top the plants below the 3rd node? Since I have nothing to do for 6 hours I've been reading a bit more and all my favorite scroggers have been doing this method to get 4 colas (with success). Again I would have to make sure all main growth stays under the screen.
No roots below the netpots yet. I might pick out some hydroton pellets and go snooping around just to see.
Low temps during lights out were around 64* so I hope that wasn't bad.
Currently I am stalled at 17/7 on my way down to 12/12. What should I do at this time? Go back to 18/6, 24/0 or stay 17/7? I'm thinking if I'm going to top them, then I should probably veg them some more and get their roots established. So my vote is go back to 18/6.
Any other thoughts? What would you guys do next?
Blue Dream
Skywalker OG #1, #2 and #3
Should I remove the fully yellowed leaves or leave them on?
I'm hoping the first two nodes recover and produce stems. If they do, who thinks I should top the plants below the 3rd node? Since I have nothing to do for 6 hours I've been reading a bit more and all my favorite scroggers have been doing this method to get 4 colas (with success). Again I would have to make sure all main growth stays under the screen.
No roots below the netpots yet. I might pick out some hydroton pellets and go snooping around just to see.
Low temps during lights out were around 64* so I hope that wasn't bad.
Currently I am stalled at 17/7 on my way down to 12/12. What should I do at this time? Go back to 18/6, 24/0 or stay 17/7? I'm thinking if I'm going to top them, then I should probably veg them some more and get their roots established. So my vote is go back to 18/6.
Any other thoughts? What would you guys do next?
Blue Dream
Skywalker OG #1, #2 and #3