13/17 light schedule ... BLUE DREAM

CapDaddy420

Member
hi first grow.. and just thought hey.. why the fuck not..

like most of us on our first grow.. we read read read and do some more reading.
so i know enough to understand what happens with the plant and why it does what it does.. so when it came to flowering ... i asked myself... like im sure we all do..
more darkness? better response?
well through my research no one person can say that all cannabis plants will or will not. it really depends on that plant.

so i will testify to a 13/17 light schedule, yes im aware that its more than a 24 hour day.. but who told these plants a day was 24 hours? well im deceiving them and telling them days are 30 hours.
i'll keep you guys updated..Photo on 2010-12-14 at 16.26.jpg
 

reject

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wow thats some heavy filosophical shit my friend, should be interessting to see what happens.
 

CapDaddy420

Member
haha im sure it crossed your mind too mann... thanks for the support.. she only has 2 more weeks before i flush.. i'll upload some more pics when the lights are on.. this pic was from 2 weeks ago. same schedule
 

Devildog93

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hi first grow.. and just thought hey.. why the fuck not..

like most of us on our first grow.. we read read read and do some more reading.
so i know enough to understand what happens with the plant and why it does what it does.. so when it came to flowering ... i asked myself... like im sure we all do..
more darkness? better response?
well through my research no one person can say that all cannabis plants will or will not. it really depends on that plant.

so i will testify to a 13/17 light schedule, yes im aware that its more than a 24 hour day.. but who told these plants a day was 24 hours? well im deceiving them and telling them days are 30 hours.
i'll keep you guys updated..View attachment 1341049

As far as I know, MJ needs 12 hours dark (general rule) to trigger and maintain flowering (of course excluding autoflowering strains). There is another thread just started asking to go the other way and reduce total hours to 6 on 12 off.

I think you would see better results with this than the other fellow would with his idea (although his theory is laid out to increase crop rotation). You still have the "minimum" 12 hours dark. And you would (most likely) benefit from the extra "day" light, allowing for more goodies to be built up ...chlorophyl production, sugars....etc.

Two interesting topics already today. Cool.

Good luck, hope it benefits you.
 

wannaquickee

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why the hell did you post this twice....making me think im fucking crazy one and now i have to copy and paste my post from earlier




are you looking to try the schedule or are you just making small talk?
it is in the genetics of plants that longer night periods trigger flowering.
12/12 simulates the hours of winter. obviously twelve hours is just a easy light schedule. if they plants were outside it will vary and also takes longer for the plants life cycle to finish. reason being is the light hours changing are abrupt.

13/17 you would have to buy some sort of timer that you can plan its whole life cycle. you would have to count the hours out for everyday to see what time your lights would go on and off..that would be constantly changing. 4 hours difference? so 2 one day and 6 the next? i assume that could stress a plant? last one was a question..
 

choempi

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Peeps don't experiment much in these types of light regimens much mostly due to the expense of the exotic timers needed. There are some weird and complicated schedules documented in threads here, but the peeps usually do them manually which can be a demanding thing to do over months.
 

CapDaddy420

Member
As far as I know, MJ needs 12 hours dark (general rule) to trigger and maintain flowering (of course excluding autoflowering strains). There is another thread just started asking to go the other way and reduce total hours to 6 on 12 off.

I think you would see better results with this than the other fellow would with his idea (although his theory is laid out to increase crop rotation). You still have the "minimum" 12 hours dark. And you would (most likely) benefit from the extra "day" light, allowing for more goodies to be built up ...chlorophyl production, sugars....etc.

Two interesting topics already today. Cool.

Good luck, hope it benefits you.
my plants are getting more than the required 12 hours of darkness. which in turn allows that chemical to be active longer resulting in more time for growth. and an extra hour of light to maybe help the buds stay dense and not fluff out by having extra darkness. also to to help get extra goods in for its longer dark period.
 

CapDaddy420

Member
why the hell did you post this twice....making me think im fucking crazy one and now i have to copy and paste my post from earlier




are you looking to try the schedule or are you just making small talk?
it is in the genetics of plants that longer night periods trigger flowering.
12/12 simulates the hours of winter. obviously twelve hours is just a easy light schedule. if they plants were outside it will vary and also takes longer for the plants life cycle to finish. reason being is the light hours changing are abrupt.

13/17 you would have to buy some sort of timer that you can plan its whole life cycle. you would have to count the hours out for everyday to see what time your lights would go on and off..that would be constantly changing. 4 hours difference? so 2 one day and 6 the next? i assume that could stress a plant? last one was a question..
i've been on this schedule tightly since 1st day of flowering.. no need for timers when u have an alarm clock to wake that ass up.. im not too lazy so i don't mind.. and yea the time alters all the time.. i might be throwin the lights on at 5pm one day and 2 days later their coming on at 7am.. makes perfect sense since the plants world is living in a 30 hour day schedule and our human world is still being ran by a 24 hour day.. so... its not really changing to answer your question. it just seems that way because the grow day is different from an actual day.. so no stress is included.. the plant would only be stressed if i were to give it less than 12 hours of darkness one day.. it would then think its vegging resulting in the plant going back to veg. and stressing out becoming a hermi. the difference between the time of light and darkness is not relevant for as long as your meeting the plant's life requirements.. who knows.. i might do a control next grow and be the first person to find out that a strain of cannabis is best grown under a 13/17 light schedule. instead of a simple 12/12 solution. why the fuck not? lets see what happens ;)
 

CapDaddy420

Member
Peeps don't experiment much in these types of light regimens much mostly due to the expense of the exotic timers needed. There are some weird and complicated schedules documented in threads here, but the peeps usually do them manually which can be a demanding thing to do over months.
2 words... alarm clock..

and not being lazy to get that ass up!
 

buddwasher

Active Member
all i will say is the large european legal grow green houses spend shit loads to get it right and they use 24 hrs on for vegging and 12/12 for budding so i'm gonna keep following them till someone says otherwise
 

CapDaddy420

Member
all i will say is the large european legal grow green houses spend shit loads to get it right and they use 24 hrs on for vegging and 12/12 for budding so i'm gonna keep following them till someone says otherwise
what if i were to say otherwise?? and i didn't spend a million dollars trying to figure it out but simply common sense. do i have not the credibility they have? what if my blue dream has a thc content of 28% and there's didn't reach 21... then what? will you swear by the capdaddy? i didn't think so... none of that shit means anything mann.. and EVERY cannabis plant is different it would be impossible to have a set regiment on all cannabis plants... this is what lead me to my experiment.
 

choempi

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2 words... alarm clock..

and not being lazy to get that ass up!
Thats why i said, manually, and that is not too demanding and don't think you are the first to do this. There are much more complicated schedules then this one. There is an epic thread of a 4 on 6 off from like 3 or more years back. And that dude found out it had been experimented with back in the 80's! Peeps just repeat things mindlessly, without researching. The 4 on 6 off is to shorten the cycle by like 10 days or so, and it does work, but yield is a bit lowered, and is a big pain in the ass. Props for trying the 13/17, but don't think you are doing something that hasn't been done over the last 30 or 40 years.
 

CapDaddy420

Member
Thats why i said, manually, and that is not too demanding and don't think you are the first to do this. There are much more complicated schedules then this one. There is an epic thread of a 4 on 6 off from like 3 or more years back. And that dude found out it had been experimented with back in the 80's! Peeps just repeat things mindlessly, without researching. The 4 on 6 off is to shorten the cycle by like 10 days or so, and it does work, but yield is a bit lowered, and is a big pain in the ass. Props for trying the 13/17, but don't think you are doing something that hasn't been done over the last 30 or 40 years.
yepp never said i was the first to try?? lol and never said it was difficult...i just think its different lol... and yes i have read of cycles like mine which gave me the idea lol but ok.? just stated i could be the first to possibly prove it for a strain.. thats all . which has not been done.. thanks for all this info factoid stuff tho.. a 4/6 schedule never crossed my mind to be efficient.. cool
im sure my 13/17 sched. will do great and be superior to a 12/12 cycled blue dream.. but im optimistic ^_^

~never mindless~
 

Devildog93

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It's ultimately YOUR plant and YOUR time put into this so you are GOD in your room. This seems like a safer route than trying a 4/6.....that just seems ridiculous.

Hope it works for you. I live by the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" motto. But I am more than happy to see other people trying, and to read about their results.

Good luck. Hope it is worth it in the end.
 

choempi

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It's ultimately YOUR plant and YOUR time put into this so you are GOD in your room. This seems like a safer route than trying a 4/6.....that just seems ridiculous.QUOTE]

The op doing that was like totally messed up from the sleeping schedule he had, timers are made to do this but they are like a couple bills
 

Devildog93

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It's ultimately YOUR plant and YOUR time put into this so you are GOD in your room. This seems like a safer route than trying a 4/6.....that just seems ridiculous.QUOTE]

The op doing that was like totally messed up from the sleeping schedule he had, timers are made to do this but they are like a couple bills

I would find that 4\6 to be a nightmare......I smoke a good bowl and I am out for that many hours, and sometimes wake up like WTF just happened???? That's alll it would take to mess up a schedule like that if he didnt' have a timer that could work. I know you can purchase on/off cycle timers. They do run on a 24 hr clock though, but you can have multiple on of times within that 24 hr period. Even vary the intervals if so desired. Generally cheap at like Wal-Mart or Canadian Tire type stores. Usually fairly inexpensive, and I had a digital one at one point for my lizards heat stone and UV light.

There are cheap ones like I had, as well as more expensive ones. The one I had was rated for 1000 w out the plug, but I think a friend used one of these cheap ones, and nearly burnt his house down. The timer was all burnt looking, slightly melted.
I think for one rated for grows would be pretty pricey.

But that being said, the OP's adjusted hours are not nearly as drastic as a 4/6.

I do hope it works for you. Good luck.
 

golddog

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You better hope you have a stable Blue Dream clone... or it will Hermie.

You said this was you first grow? You sound retarded. :bigjoint:
 

choempi

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You better hope you have a stable Blue Dream clone... or it will Hermie.

You said this was you first grow? You sound retarded. :bigjoint:
concern troll

hermies are gonna get you!

Hahaha. Lighten up Francis, your ignorance is showing.
 

Shrubs First

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Sounds pretty sophomoric. How cute.

You might be the first to prove it for a strain? You're so intelligent and creative.
 

CapDaddy420

Member
Sounds pretty sophomoric. How cute.

You might be the first to prove it for a strain? You're so intelligent and creative.
lol hey i reach for stars not gutters ... why not right? anything could happen.

but i don't think im being sophomoric? if you mean im somewhat overconfident and immature? but if you do please point out so i may correct my self in life.
 
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