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got2loveit

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When you left them for a week, who watered them? Perhaps they weren't watered or not properly watered....???? I recently left my plants for someone else to water, and they stunted badly even tho they were "reportedly" watered ..........
i had prepared everything and i know for a fact that they were watered at the right times cause i was on the phone... ty technology... and im also sure its not NPK def cause i had the same prob last time and i went full strenght... the only thing of the three bottles i didnt use was the catalyst... i only used this occassionally as it fffdd my lemon skunk from the first time i fed here... if you see the pics in the link you will notice that it was more severe that time... i think its a nute lockout... i.e. my soils ph must have been fffdd up first time by the amount of nutes and second time maybe from the ph down i occassionaly gave when solutions ph was high... i also havent used epsom salts nor dolomite lime nor anything else to keep my ph in line.... i have read than in soil when using biobizz nutes(not the ones i used.. cant find any real feedback on mine...) that in the fourth week you need to apply epsom salts... any suggestions??

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got2loveit

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Watch the tops and newest growth after giving it some fertilizer. The damaged leaves can't be fixed so when the problem is remedied, it'll show up in new growth first. Since there may be problems when using the stuff you have, getting a new, different fertilizer would be a good idea if you're able. Many garden centers have organic ferts in bulk by the pound. If you do try something new, you could possibly get a pound of $2/lb stuff or a mix of a few ferts, give it a try and if it doesn't work well for you, you're only out a couple bucks.
thanks for the help mother's
as i mention in my previous message i think i might have locked something up... still think i should feed??
 

Manimal

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Have you ever checked the run off ph when you feed? That could help tell you if your dirt is messing the PH up. Also, when did you calibrate you're ph pen last? I've had mother loads of issues before because my PH meter was off calibration.
 

got2loveit

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im using a cheap ph meter u determine the ph from the colour of the solution... il try to test the soils ph... maybe that will tell us something... i flushed 2 times with demineralized pure water and i think they stopped deteriorating and life comming back... and this makes me even more to believe that its some kind of lockout due to ph... how can i fix something like this besides treating with pure water???
 

Mother's Finest

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If flushing actually helped then perhaps there is/was a pH problem. Checking the pH after flushing can give a very different reading than before. The more water you run through the soil, the more pH-altering substances are washed away. If your soil's pH is 6.5 after flushing with pH 7 water, it may have been much more acidic before, probably at least 6 if not lower.

If the problems were caused by pH lockout, you'll still need to give her nutrients because she hasn't been able to make use of many recently. Because flushing is overwatering, you'll want to let the soil dry out well before giving them more liquids.
 

Mother's Finest

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We've never used Humic Acid. Whether it's from pH lockout, simply not giving them enough or some mixture of both, they seem to be nutrient deficient. If it's from the pH being off, that needs to be corrected before feeding them. As long as the soil pH still tests near 6.5 a day after fixing it, it's definately time to feed. If possible, give them a complete flowering mix containing everything they need. something in the vicinity of 4-4-6 mixed at a strong concentration.
 

got2loveit

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We've never used Humic Acid. Whether it's from pH lockout, simply not giving them enough or some mixture of both, they seem to be nutrient deficient. If it's from the pH being off, that needs to be corrected before feeding them. As long as the soil pH still tests near 6.5 a day after fixing it, it's definately time to feed. If possible, give them a complete flowering mix containing everything they need. something in the vicinity of 4-4-6 mixed at a strong concentration.
i applied some humic acid which helps buffer the ph in alkaline and acidic soils and breaks up nutes in the soil and salts and makes them available for the plant... if i see growth is omming back il brew a guano tea bat and pelecan for N... any other suggestions.... thanks for the help by the way
 

welshsmoker

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you havent got a light ingress during lights out , have you mate? that will do that, but they aint going to be ready for a while,
 
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