dont forget about serious seeds
i have read simon from serious, george cervantes, shantibaba from mr nice all said that you would at least need a bunch of seeds to like really find that phenomenon mom that would get you going with your breed. ill buy 5 seeds from dr greenthumb and ask him to start from scratch with that and start to breed with the 5 seeds i bough from him, and see how it goes from there.
heres a small concept i would like to compare. shantibaba created...white widow, great white shark, el nino, white rhino all fuckin legend. simon created white russian, ak47, chronic all fuckin legend. and this are the guys who stated that you need more than 5 seeds to find the real gem. dr greenthumb created what? endless sky? chumaluma? im pretty sure he would say the same thing.
much respect to doc green...believe me, i wish i can get hes strain. not that i cant afford it. its just impractical. im actually envy from people who got hes shit. i regret that i diddnt get hes cheese when it was still $200 for 10 seeds, and im sure ill regret it in the future for not buying the 5 seeds for $150 when he jacks the price again.
i know he offers s1 no doubt, but id also like to see him post on hes website how he ended up getting seeds from a clone only strain. what he did and how he did it.