TGA SUBCOOL realeasing prob the greatest strain in the world on attitude! PLUSHBERRY

henery

Active Member
One more thing why does mj hermi then?
Simple female plants grown to long will have male flowers does this make it a hermi no!
It is just mj's way to try and preserve itself and make some seeds so it can go on living next year!
So in short if you believe mj can change its sex at the end of the life cycle why do you find it so hard to believe it can be done at the start of life answer that dude!
 
You cannot tell sex from a seed!!!
They can be either sex that is one of the ways mj keeps itself alive in the wild!
Dwc you can make any food mix you want soil would be harder to do this high nitrogen thing!
Anyway I am done trying to teach people who don't want to learn and quoting other growers just shows your ignorance!!!
You will never know it all so just keep an open mind, you stop learning if you are close minded!
Sorry for trying to help your shitty male female ratios!

What my point was in the beginning was it is not the breeder it is your growroom that determines sex of regular seed you have the same chance growing 50 50 ratio from any breeder but you can up the odds but you are not willing to learn O well!
And who the hell you are qouting this info from..You cant teach me nothing you can state a opinion and thats all kid
 

littleflavio

Well-Known Member
You cannot tell sex from a seed!!!
They can be either sex that is one of the ways mj keeps itself alive in the wild!
Dwc you can make any food mix you want soil would be harder to do this high nitrogen thing!
Anyway I am done trying to teach people who don't want to learn and quoting other growers just shows your ignorance!!!
You will never know it all so just keep an open mind, you stop learning if you are close minded!
Sorry for trying to help your shitty male female ratios!

What my point was in the beginning was it is not the breeder it is your growroom that determines sex of regular seed you have the same chance growing 50 50 ratio from any breeder but you can up the odds but you are not willing to learn O well!
im all ears by all means...all im saying is that un-experienced growers might get mis-informed by giving them advice to start feeding for the first 3 weeks of its seedling form from seeds.

ima quote what you said bro in red letters:

post#36 and feed high Nitrogen fert you will be surprised If ya follow all this it is not uncommon to have 90% female ratio's!Hight nitrogen promotes females!
Cooler temps promote females!
This is of coarse all in the first three weeks of growth from seed!

post#41 and feed high Nitrogen fert you will be surprised If ya follow all this it is not uncommon to have 90% female ratio's!

post#60Dwc you can make any food mix you want soil would be harder to do this high nitrogen thing!


dont know anything much about dwc but im growing in soil, and i think majority of people are growing in soil. so thanks for clarifying that one. and still im scratchin my head...
 
You cannot tell sex from a seed!!!
They can be either sex that is one of the ways mj keeps itself alive in the wild!
Dwc you can make any food mix you want soil would be harder to do this high nitrogen thing!
Anyway I am done trying to teach people who don't want to learn and quoting other growers just shows your ignorance!!!
You will never know it all so just keep an open mind, you stop learning if you are close minded!
Sorry for trying to help your shitty male female ratios!

What my point was in the beginning was it is not the breeder it is your growroom that determines sex of regular seed you have the same chance growing 50 50 ratio from any breeder but you can up the odds but you are not willing to learn O well!
Im qouting words out of a mj book not another grower...Just like you read high nitrogen gives you more females i read you can tell sex from seed....
Does it make sense????????????????
 

Brick Top

New Member
Ok..No i never tried TGA or even been to california,nor have i been to the uk...But judgeing by your avatar pic id say what the hell do the old know about the young???

Let's see now ... what might an old guy like me know about someone who is young? Hummmmmm .. well old guys like me were once young and over the many decades of our lives we have met many young people and other than things like dressing different than we did or liking different music than we did .... they are still just the same as when we were young.

As for my avatar, that is a picture of the late Alan Ford, the actor who played Brick Top in the movie Snatch. Since I use his name it only seemed fitting to me that I use his picture too.




In almost every post i have read from you it has way to much thought put into it..it's fucking weed,not life!
I apologize for not being the typical room temperature IQ Beavis & Butthead youth that apparently you would prefer to read the mindless inaccurate ramblings of.


Before you point fingers and make judgement apon sommething i wrote or started or accuse me of advertiseing for sumone ask me directly!!!

I am so sorry that I confused you with possibly being another of Subs little bubblegummer groupies who worship him like a rock star.


..No where in your incoherant RAMBLE' did you say anything worth reading...

That is your opinion and your opinion only. To me your; "
TGA SUBCOOL realeasing prob the greatest strain in the world on attitude! PLUSHBERRY

coming soon!!!" was as absurd of a thread to start as any I have ever seen .. well no, make that the second worst. Tafbang's Leaning Tower of Pisa 8 plants in a picnic basket thread was the worst I have ever seen.

What intelligent or interesting fact or facts did you present? None? You voiced an opinion on a strain you have never grown or smoked but for some totally inexplicable reason you felt it deserved to be described as being probably "the greatest strain in the world."

And to think that you had the unmitigated gall to say I said nothing worth reading! WOW!



Who cares what my agenda behind my post was..Im here for advice when need'd or help..
What was your agenda? Why proclaim a yet to be released strain probably; "the greatest strain in the world?


What advice were you asking for or what advice were you giving when you made your absurd proclamation? Who were you attempting to help other than SubCool?




im here to spread good news about something exciting in the industry thats new! Your attacks point out maybe a tad of jealousy .

"Jealousy?" Jealous of what? That you made an absurd claim about a yet to be released strain from a breeder that is not among the top breeders in the world? Why in the wide, wide, world of sports would I ever feel even the slightest twinge of; "jealousy" because you made an absolutely absurd claim?



I will say this, the Attitude sponsers Subcool and TGA right?

I don't know. Does Attitude actually; "sponsor" TGA/SubCool or does Attitude just offer TGA/SubCool seeds for sale just like they offer the seeds of many other breeders, breeders that are anywhere from low line Wal-Mart quality breeders to top quality breeders?



Subcool has a company right?
Apparently.




Subcool with add'd help has devolped some impressive great strains...

In your opinion and also in the opinion of some others, though at the same time a number of people hold a totally opposite point of view.



Now What have you contributed?


If you mean that as in what strain or strains have I created the answer is none. But then in my now nearly 39 years of growing I have never had any desire to breed strains. Are you attempting to say I am some sort of a failure because I have never attempted to do something I have no interest in doing?

The world has far too many pollen chuckers in it now, some are even seen as quality breeders, so why should someone who has no interest in breeding make a half hearted attempt at it just to release more mutts into the world that is already flooded with mutt strains?

But since you asked me what I have contributed allow me to ask the same of you. What have you contributed? Nothing more than a rah-rah-sis boom bah cheerleader thread proclaiming a yet to be released strain possibly; "the greatest strain in the world."

That's one Hell of an achievement to hang one's hat on.

Gosh ... I am so very, very jealous that I did not beat you to the punch and start a thread saying the very same thing before you had the opportunity to do so.
 
You cannot tell sex from a seed!!!
They can be either sex that is one of the ways mj keeps itself alive in the wild!
Dwc you can make any food mix you want soil would be harder to do this high nitrogen thing!
Anyway I am done trying to teach people who don't want to learn and quoting other growers just shows your ignorance!!!
You will never know it all so just keep an open mind, you stop learning if you are close minded!
Sorry for trying to help your shitty male female ratios!

What my point was in the beginning was it is not the breeder it is your growroom that determines sex of regular seed you have the same chance growing 50 50 ratio from any breeder but you can up the odds but you are not willing to learn O well!
Dude you asked a stupid question, apparently you didn't really want an answer. And as far as your response above, I guess your pretty much a fucking idiot. Thats right up there with one of the dumbest respones I've ever wasted my time reading.
lmao i guess i told them off....
 

Total Head

Well-Known Member
is it just me or has this forum gone completely insane in the past week or so? like more than usual. every section i go to has like 5 top beefs going on. but i must say that the premise of this thread is a bit silly. hailing a strain as the greatest in the world when no one has grown or smoked it is a little absurd. and then to attack brick top for pointing that out (who by the way has contributed plenty) is even more absurd. making fun of someone for being older and "talkin' smarty talk" is where i facepalmed. thinking that something is the bomb dot com because it's the best YOU have come accross doesn't make it so, and that's all he said. give me a break. i'm begging you.
 

Snow Crash

Well-Known Member
says the member since 2007 with 24 posts who seems to have REALLY good timing with his "resurface"...it's like the fucking twilight zone around here i swear to god. what the hell?
I feel you man. It's summer time in the southern hemisphere and shit gets kinda strange around here.
 

lbezphil2005

Well-Known Member
Did I understand what you wrote? Did you say that you attempted to germinate 50 regular seeds from TGA/SubCool and out of 50 seeds the successful germination rate was only 75% and out of that you ended up with a grand total of only four female plants?

If so that is totally 'SubCool,' as in totally un-cool. If I understood you correctly that successful germination percentage was worse than just horrible and it is by far the worst ratio of female to male plants I have ever heard of.

For your sake I really hope I misunderstood what you wrote.
I wish I could remember where I read it but there is a way to make the female to male ratio higher. It's in one of the environmental factors of where you are germing them and how. This is really going to drive me nuts!!! I read it in a forum or book somewhere, maybe frigging hightimes i can't remember now. SHIT!! I have some regular seeds I'm TRYING to get a male out of for breeding but for some reason I keep getting females.
 

Boneman

Well-Known Member
Ya'll just need to get a room :hump:

Sheesh it sounds like the coach of the Jets at the beginning of the season saying they were going to the super bowl.....Rut ro, they very well may.

Totally pre-mature statement in any aspect but this industry is a BUSINESS and advertisement and the methods of are the key. Thats all
 

Brick Top

New Member
I wish I could remember where I read it but there is a way to make the female to male ratio higher. It's in one of the environmental factors of where you are germing them and how. This is really going to drive me nuts!!! I read it in a forum or book somewhere, maybe frigging hightimes i can't remember now. SHIT!! I have some regular seeds I'm TRYING to get a male out of for breeding but for some reason I keep getting females.

Did it go something like this?



The environmental factors that influence the sex of the cannabis plant (or the flower in the case of hermaphrodites), are among other things:
The quantity of nitrogen and potassium of the seedbed. Humidity and moistness of the seedbed.
Level of temperatures.
Colour of the light used.
Length of daylight.
Stress, any form of stress, makes that more male individuals will originate from seed. Even the taking of cuttings from female cannabis plants may produce male or hermaphrodite cuttings.
To optimize the result, changes in one or more of the above-mentioned environmental factors for a certain period during marijuana growth, may be applied. During this time these environmental factors will deviate from the standard growing system for maximum harvest and quality, as described in nursery literature. The desired change(s) in the environmental factor(s) are started from the moment that the marijuana seedling has three pairs of real leaves (not counting the seed-lobes). This is the moment that male and/or female predisposition in florescence is being formed. After approximately two weeks the standard growing system can be reconverted to.
Of the 5 above-mentioned environmental factors the first three are the most practical:

  1. Level of nitrogen and potassium of the seedbed: A heightening of the standard level of nitrogen makes for more female cannabis plants originating from the weed seeds. A lowering of the nitrogen level shows more male cannabis plants. A heightening of the level of potassium tends to show more male marijuana plants, while a lowering of the potassium level shows more female marijuana plants. A combination of a higher nitrogen level for the period of a week or two and a lowering of the potassium level is recommended.
  2. Humidity and moistness of the seedbed: a higher humidity makes for an increase in the number of female cannabis plants from weed seed, a lowering for an increase in male cannabis plants. The same is valid for the moistness of the seedbed.
  3. Level of temperatures: lower temperatures make for a larger number of female marijuana plants, higher temperatures for more male marijuana plants.
  4. Color of light: more blue light makes for female cannabis plants from seed, more red light makes for more male cannabis plants.
  5. Hours of daylight: few hours of daylight (e.g. 14 hours) makes for more female individuals, a long day (e.g. 18 hours) makes for more male cannabis plants.
Now let me just make a few adjustments here to this. You can do whatever you want to your cannabis plants in seedling stage and early vegetative stage of growth and it will not effect your final male to female ratios. The time when things should be near perfect is in or around the 3rd to 4th week of vegetative growth.
This is the CRITICAL TIME for getting those female ratios up and up. I realized this clearly when noticing how some cannabis plants hermed because of problems that occurred around this period of the cannabis plants development. If the problems occurred before this time - no herms. So for this reason I surmised that this is when the crucial gender selection is made by the marijuana plant.
Now I believe that the genders are set in the weed seed however the environment has a massive impact on how this is expressed in the final phenotypic expression of the cannabis plants gender. There are probably many genes that govern this, however lets get into how to up these female ratios.
The Italian Society of Agricultural Genetics agrees the sexual differentiation of cannabis is strongly influenced by environmental factors such as temperature and photoperiod. Anomalies also occur in floral development like the presence of reproductive structures of the opposite sex, or the development of bisexual inflorescences (monoecious phenotype).
At the 3rd to 4th week of vegetative growth make sure that your marijuana plants are free from stress. No pests attacks, no fungi attacks, no mold, no irregular photoperiod, not underwatered, not overwatered, not pruned or topped, a cannabis friendly soil mix, not recently transplanted, no small pots. If have these basic growing conditions under control then we can move onto the real forces of female production from standard weed seeds.
N:P:K and nutrients. What this simply boils down to is that you have the right nutrients present in the right ratios. A nutrient formulation that has roughly equal parts N, P and K is great but if the P levels go up or the N levels go down you are starting to look at a flowering type food for cannabis. If you do this then your odds of producing mostly females is greatly decreased. Make sure that you get those N, P and K levels to almost run from higher to lower amounts from N to P and K.
I have noticed that equal portions of N to P an K can help with the female ratios but the higher N is certainly more helpful. So around the 3rd of 4th week of growth make sure that the ratios are good and that P or K has not gone above the N and P or else more males will occur. Obviously this means to avoid overfeeding your cannabis plants around this time too.
Never let your medium dry out completely around the 3rd to 4th week of vegetative marijuana growth. If you make sure to water occasionally, but not to overwater your cannabis plants, you will get those female ratios on the up and up. Overwatering or drying out of the medium will only produce more males. For consistent results in getting more females keeps those mediums moist.
Humidity. Now this is the tricky one. High humidity levels only promote fungi and mold development and lowering humidity levels is the way to cure most of this rot but by keeping those humidity levels up in or around the 70 rH factor will help to produce more females. If you have a low humidity grow room then you should get to hold of a humidifier. Now high humidity levels like 70rH cause the medium to dry out a lot quicker so you got to keep this under control too. Keep those mediums moist and those rH levesl at 70. This will help to improve those female to male ratios. Again, getting them on the up and up.
If you run the 24/0 photoperiod then do not allow those temps to go anywhere above 85F unless you have an equatorial strain. 75F is the best but going a little lower is not a problem for helping those female ratios. If you can get in at around 65F then those females are going to be popping up all over the place. The problem with this is that some growers like to use the 18/6 photoperiod and when the lights are off the temps drop from around 65F to 50F and even less. Try not to be below 55F because this has the adverse effect on the plants producing more males than females. Again between 65F and 75F is where you want to be during the 3rd to 4th week of vegetative growth, the preference being 70F.
Invest in a MH Light for vegetative growth. Dump the HPS bulb for flowering later. I have noticed that HPS lighting during vegetative growth simply sends those males to female ratios all over the place. With MH lamps the females are everywhere. Invest in some MH HID lights. It makes all the difference in getting those females to show more often. This is worth repeating! MH Bulbs produce more females under optimal conditions especially if they are present during the 3rd and 4th week of vegetative growth. Surprising enough you can start seedlings under HPS and it will not have an effect on those female ratios. Again the 3rd to 4th week of vegetative growth is what is important here.
No stress during the 3rd to 4th week of vegetative growth. That is all there is to it. If you got your garden growing in optimal conditions without marijuana plant stress then the impressive 90% to 95% females start to emerge from standard cannabis seed packs. I find that topping is best done at the second to third week of vegetative growth but that this is a little stressful and can lead to those female ratios dropping again. Avoid topping or pruning if you are looking to up the female count.
 

DONKEYkong922

Active Member
says the member since 2007 with 24 posts who seems to have REALLY good timing with his "resurface"...it's like the fucking twilight zone around here i swear to god. what the hell?
oh g, i wonder where's the irony there, wow dude.

btw, perhaps you're also contributing to the atmosphere yourself. considering the ridiculous antics of japanfreak, and w/e ensued around him, you may want to take what i said lightly and with a smile, and if that's too hard; try toking up and perhaps you'll see the humor.

"give me a break. i'm begging you."

-listen to yourself.
 

Total Head

Well-Known Member
oh g, i wonder where's the irony there, wow dude.

btw, perhaps you're also contributing to the atmosphere yourself. considering the ridiculous antics of japanfreak, and w/e ensued around him, you may want to take what i said lightly and with a smile, and if that's too hard; try toking up and perhaps you'll see the humor.

"give me a break. i'm begging you."

-listen to yourself.
i wouldn't have bumped the thread if i didn't see the humor but thank you for pointing it out. but back to you. now why exactly would someone who has less than 30 posts in 3 years make a grand reappearence on a beef thread? dropping names no less. i think that's a better question but what do i know?
 

DONKEYkong922

Active Member
i wouldn't have bumped the thread if i didn't see the humor but thank you for pointing it out. but back to you. now why exactly would someone who has less than 30 posts in 3 years make a grand reappearence on a beef thread? dropping names no less. i think that's a better question but what do i know?
i've been around this forum for quite awhile, and have seen many people come, go, and stay. in my lurking i've also noticed personalties, yours included, and yet you assume because i don't have 1388 posts, like yourself, that i'm sub-par to you in some way and that i can't be "dropping names no less".

and though, you find it necessary to point out my lack of posts in connection to my "grand reappearance", haha wow dude again, i don't assume that because you have so many posts that your say in any matter is more important than the next guy seeking a respectable forum.

and so back to me, you noted something about beefs, i decided to lighten up the thread a little at the expense of "dropping the name" of a banned user. ooooooohhhh big deal. i'm sure i wasn't just trying to stroke my ego by doing so *cough* but continue with your bad attitude and obvious superiority complex.

and btw this is not a beef thread as you stated it was, nor should any beef threads exist, they only occur because of retardation. so stop trying to note^ things about other users, myself included, to comment on, besides what it is they say^^^^ and the only reason you did that was because there was nothing else about me for you to troll on. are you done?

i refuse to out-retard myself with you anymore. doesn't mean i'm out of a conversation but i'm not going to respond to "beef thread" "less than 30 posts in 3 years" "grand reappearence" "dropping names no less" "you're going to pop a cap in my ass" bs that you tried to bring up. (i think bricktop will recognize that last quote from a certain movie)
 
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