Max Outdoor Yield

[Dj1209]

I am planning out my grow for this year in which I will be starting the plants indoors for about 2 months, I have been looking around on training techniques for outdoor plants to maximize yield but I have not been able to find any. So I was wondering what your personal opinions are. FIM,Topping,lst are any of those able to be used outdoor and if so how. Also I plan to start clones while they are indoors is that to early or should it be fine.

Links or examples tutorials for outdoor training anyone?

 

[farmerjoe420]

I am planning out my grow for this year in which I will be starting the plants indoors for about 2 months, I have been looking around on training techniques for outdoor plants to maximize yield but I have not been able to find any. So I was wondering what your personal opinions are. FIM,Topping,lst are any of those able to be used outdoor and if so how. Also I plan to start clones while they are indoors is that to early or should it be fine.

Links or examples tutorials for outdoor training anyone?

FIM,Topping,lst are all good for outdoor plants. topping multiple times through the year and tying your plants back will work great.

 

[findme]

U don't need to fim or top the plant when it's growin outside.

 

[hic]

Never think only one way is the way. do them all to the same plant but do them all gently and don't over do the topping. when it gets to the point of cutting 40 tops at a time. Dont due them all at once -EXAMPLE: cut 15 tops one day a few days later, another 15 tops to avoid too much stress.

Stress can really put a damper on yeild, The most common to what I see on the forums in the means of stress is overfertilization. Avoid as much stress as possible. That is one of the top laws for improving yeilds.

Good water, good dirt, good light,are the other key laws of YEILD. Cutting, topping, lst are not laws of yeild they are only options. "when it comes to the outdoor world"

There are several options to go over when growing but no option will ever increase the yeild as much as "overall health". Overall health of the plant can only be at it's peak if all the "laws of yeild" are met.

Options that I know of to contribute to the overall weight of the finished product. 1- rooting hormone, 2- key ferts, 3-topping/bending, 4- supercropping. numberd in order of overall impact.

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[growyurown]

Never think only one way is the way. do them all to the same plant but do them all gently and don't over do the topping. when it gets to the point of cutting 40 tops at a time. Dont due them all at once -EXAMPLE: cut 15 tops one day a few days later, another 15 tops to avoid too much stress.

Stress can really put a damper on yeild, The most common to what I see on the forums in the means of stress is overfertilization. Avoid as much stress as possible. That is one of the top laws for improving yeilds.

Good water, good dirt, good light,are the other key laws of YEILD. Cutting, topping, lst are not laws of yeild they are only options. "when it comes to the outdoor world"

There are several options to go over when growing but no option will ever increase the yeild as much as "overall health". Overall health of the plant can only be at it's peak if all the "laws of yeild" are met.

Options that I know of to contribute to the overall weight of the finished product. 1- rooting hormone, 2- key ferts, 3-topping/bending, 4- supercropping. numberd in order of overall impact.

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Yea... I've grown outdoors for years. That is exactly right

 

[troythepooh14]

i prefer fimming and tieing down..

 

[Dj1209]

So I should use a mixture of multiple techniques? So far I plan to top them using uncle bens topping technique but should I also tie them down on the four main colas to allow more light to hit the lower flowering sites. Any ideas on what I should do if strain matters its white widow and it will be grown indoors for 2 months while indoors I plan to top them and use the cuttings for cloning.

 

[NoCeilings]

If your colas get big enough, they will pull away from eachother, allowing more light to hit the rest of the plant

 

[Rollbluntz]

check out the lst guide in my sig...it can help some shows results on a smaller indoor scale.

 

[Ganga Cook]

I would go with LSTing. My first grow is gonna be outdoors this spring and I dont like the sound of pinching or cutting my babies in any way, dont want to stress the babes too much. Well happy growing and good luck bud!

 

[Dj1209]

I would go with LSTing. My first grow is gonna be outdoors this spring and I dont like the sound of pinching or cutting my babies in any way, dont want to stress the babes too much. Well happy growing and good luck bud!

Yeah I don't really want to but I only have 5 WW seeds so I figure while they are indoors ill top them and use the cuttings as clones.

Does any one know if a SOG would be effective as I wanted to do rows but now that seems like a bad idea

 

[dirrtyd]

Piece of advice it is obvious you are new and dont know much about the strain you are growing. Let that white widow go on it own outdoors and you will have a monster. Yield will not be your issue bud rot will. dirrtyd

 

[ghb]

one interesting tip i found is to put it out as soon as possible. it will start to flower then when summer comes and the light goes back up to 16+ hours of light it will reveg then when the light goes down to 12 hours again it will flower like crazy, because of the reveg you end up with thousands as opposed to hundereds of bud sites. depending on where you are this will not always be possible.

also i would recommend topping once and no more, there is no need to lst or anything else in my oppinion. indoors we lst supercrop etc to try and stop the plant having one main cola and a bunch of popcorn, because our indoor lights lose lumens the further you go from them we like to create an even canopy so all the buds recieve light. outdoors you are so far from the sun an extra 6ft makes no difference, so you dont need to worry about the low bud sites getting no light. the reason i say top once is that you will get four main colas as opposed to one, so less likely to lose your pride and joy from bud rot/ worms etc. it also opens up the plants canopy as uncle ben will tell you.

i hope it makes sense as i just typed as i was thinking it up.
good luck with the outdoor growing, i'm jealous.

 

[hic]

I would go with LSTing. My first grow is gonna be outdoors this spring and I dont like the sound of pinching or cutting my babies in any way, dont want to stress the babes too much. Well happy growing and good luck bud!

as you can see, a guy that has not grown yet is trying to give advise? WTF? do not tell someone to do something if you have not tried it yourself! F-ck lst, F-ck topping it dude, learn how to make the plant happy first. After you have mastered how to make a plant happy and healthy. Then play with the options

 

[hic]

If you get too much stuff on the table your first years you will become "jack of all trades, master of none" in the future!

 

[Dj1209]

one interesting tip i found is to put it out as soon as possible. it will start to flower then when summer comes and the light goes back up to 16+ hours of light it will reveg then when the light goes down to 12 hours again it will flower like crazy, because of the reveg you end up with thousands as opposed to hundereds of bud sites. depending on where you are this will not always be possible.

also i would recommend topping once and no more, there is no need to lst or anything else in my oppinion. indoors we lst supercrop etc to try and stop the plant having one main cola and a bunch of popcorn, because our indoor lights lose lumens the further you go from them we like to create an even canopy so all the buds recieve light. outdoors you are so far from the sun an extra 6ft makes no difference, so you dont need to worry about the low bud sites getting no light. the reason i say top once is that you will get four main colas as opposed to one, so less likely to lose your pride and joy from bud rot/ worms etc. it also opens up the plants canopy as uncle ben will tell you.

i hope it makes sense as i just typed as i was thinking it up.
good luck with the outdoor growing, i'm jealous.

So if I tied down the 4 main colas it wouldn't have much of a point? The only reason I was going to was because someone said it promoted the growth on more bud sites and made the buds larger due to the hormones in the plant trying to make a dominant bud. If that's the case I will just top them and let them go

 

[hic]

So if I tied down the 4 main colas it wouldn't have much of a point? The only reason I was going to was because someone said it promoted the growth on more bud sites and made the buds larger due to the hormones in the plant trying to make a dominant bud. If that's the case I will just top them and let them go

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Topping can and does promote more bud sites. More bud sites usually means smaller but yes more tops. Topping and LSTing only work effectively on certain strains. Some strains prefer to grow that real big top and yeild no better or even worse if topped.

Lst and topping will however produce no actual real benefit if your plant is in poor health. Lst yes is used to promote lower growth while keeping that top big bud or a couple big buds without sacrificing the size of that golden top.

The title of the tread was maxing yeild, my answer is get your plant growing healthy. After you know your plant is happy, experiment. I learned awhile ago about topping and lsting.. and I tell you there is more to learn after you learn about it.. after year 3 or 4 of doing it, you look back at your first year and say damn I thought I knew it all.

Experiment, and find out what you like and roll with it!. Pic above is trainwreck topped and a little lsting took place on that one. If I would have took a pictures of all my other grows from the past I would be able to show you what "years of experiance'" can do in the way of INCREASING YEILDS. lol

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[Dj1209]

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Topping can and does promote more bud sites. More bud sites usually means smaller but yes more tops. Topping and LSTing only work effectively on certain strains. Some strains prefer to grow that real big top and yeild no better or even worse if topped.

Lst and topping will however produce no actual real benefit if your plant is in poor health. Lst yes is used to promote lower growth while keeping that top big bud or a couple big buds without sacrificing the size of that golden top.

The title of the tread was maxing yeild, my answer is get your plant growing healthy. After you know your plant is happy, experiment. I learned awhile ago about topping and lsting.. and I tell you there is more to learn after you learn about it.. after year 3 or 4 of doing it, you look back at your first year and say damn I thought I knew it all.

Experiment, and find out what you like and roll with it!. Pic above is trainwreck topped and a little lsting took place on that one. If I would have took a pictures of all my other grows from the past I would be able to show you what "years of experiance'" can do in the way of INCREASING YEILDS. lol

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That plant is beautiful how much you get off of her and what strain is that it looks really bushy.

 

[hic]

Not sure what it yeilded.. I usually just smoke all my shit. So I do not even use a scale anymore. If someone close to me wants a bag I "eye it up" and give it a quick weight with the wrist, so it's heavy.

Trainwreck is the strain

 

[Dj1209]

Not sure what it yeilded.. I usually just smoke all my shit. So I do not even use a scale anymore. If someone close to me wants a bag I "eye it up" and give it a quick weight with the wrist, so it's heavy.

Trainwreck is the strain

I hoping for a pound out of my plants in total I've always wanted to have a pound of some bomb shit I can't wait to see what I get I'm gonna be takin hits non stop.