Hotphyre's Perpetual Grow
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HotPhyre
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Your crazy bro!How are the plants doing bro?
lol there doing pretty good, stretching like a champ, see what my problem was the first time i ran plants there was only 3 in there, and they were excellent besides my hermi problem. well when i threw 6 plants in there i wasnt getting enough air to them so fucked up my yeilds this time already since i gave them a ton of air and it cant reach lower than 65F in temp, they are showing so much better signs of water uptake and growth comapre to my last grow.
rasputin71
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Do you PH check your water/nutes/runoff? I finally got a meter and sure wish I would have got one sooner. I have been 'making it rain' (supposed to be 5.6ph) with 7.9ph water. 
rasputin71
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Me too, mostly. I use Pro-Mix soil, General Organics full line (everything but the Sub-Culture M & B so far), Bat Guano, and Hygrozyme. I used Sweet last round, and am undecided it about for this round, but I just got some Snow Storm and Purple Maxx to use with Gravity on the 'rain' days in flower.
I was surprised how much my liquid nutes bring down my PH. Feed days I have probably been pretty close to the low 6's, but flush days must have been torture for my plants in the past.
I was surprised how much my liquid nutes bring down my PH. Feed days I have probably been pretty close to the low 6's, but flush days must have been torture for my plants in the past.
kingofqueen
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What's more for the money with Earth Juice ? I'm thinking about switching to Botainacare's organic line from the Age Old . The age old bloom liquid is 5-10-5 though decent flowering ratio .
HotPhyre
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Well earth juice is 23 bucks for the gallon, and bio bizz average is 25 bucks for 32 fl.oz. They also have less additives needed, they have ther basic grow and bloom, but they have a complete organic micro nutrient supplement also organic rooting hormone, and so far ever forum I read said in organics it in the top rated with the rest.
kingofqueen
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So it's a value with mironutes included . I have seen some grows with it on here . I'm not running enough plants to worry about nute cost too much . I'm just going to finish with the Age OLd . I like there products ,nutes have micros included also .It's around 13 bucks for a quart . I'm still leaning towards Botainacare , I like their organic line . They have liquid and granular nutes , I think they even have organic bloom boosters too.
HotPhyre
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So here is a little lay out of both companies:
bio Bizz- Grow-32floz. -25 usd
Bloom-32floz.-25usd
Fishmix-32floz.-25usd
Topmax(BloomBooster)- 18floz- 30usd
BioHeaven(aminoacid)- 18floz - 30usd
*also need to add epson salt to waterings.
EarthJuice- Grow- 1gal.-25usd
Bloom-1gal.-25usd
Catalyst(BloomBooster)-1gal-29usd
MicroBlast(all micro nutrients)-1gal-34usd
so for about 110 buck you can get total earth juice line up and for 130 you can go with bio bizz but you get about half the amount of nutrients since you pay for smaller bottles with bio bizz.
This is what i plan to do once i run out of nutes here in about 3 weeks or so.
bio Bizz- Grow-32floz. -25 usd
Bloom-32floz.-25usd
Fishmix-32floz.-25usd
Topmax(BloomBooster)- 18floz- 30usd
BioHeaven(aminoacid)- 18floz - 30usd
*also need to add epson salt to waterings.
EarthJuice- Grow- 1gal.-25usd
Bloom-1gal.-25usd
Catalyst(BloomBooster)-1gal-29usd
MicroBlast(all micro nutrients)-1gal-34usd
so for about 110 buck you can get total earth juice line up and for 130 you can go with bio bizz but you get about half the amount of nutrients since you pay for smaller bottles with bio bizz.
This is what i plan to do once i run out of nutes here in about 3 weeks or so.
rasputin71
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Have you looked at the General Organics line? I am using their full line except for the sub-culture m&b mixes. I might try those soon but they are ~$70 each and I haven't researched them yet. All of these quarts are about $16 at my shop except for BioBud which is about $35.
I use all of these pictured and their BioMarine and DiamondBlack liquid fertilizers (I use pro-mix), along with Hygrozyme. I also used Gravity last time and will be adding the rest of the HCO line (SnowStorm and Purple Maxx) to my 'rain day' waterings.
I use all of these pictured and their BioMarine and DiamondBlack liquid fertilizers (I use pro-mix), along with Hygrozyme. I also used Gravity last time and will be adding the rest of the HCO line (SnowStorm and Purple Maxx) to my 'rain day' waterings.
HotPhyre
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Right now i use bio bizz, everything but the grow, lol. i use fish mix in replace of the grow in flowering. but you can use all three if you wanted.
I do it to cut done costs of nutes.
Howard Stern
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That's interesting, I only see one of the ferts that have a high P rating for flowering. I am using the FF nutes and the finishing ferts all have a ton of P in the NPK. I think the Cha Ching is around 50. I am liking the FF ferts but I have been on the fence about switching ferts..... It is expensive to try new nutes though. I read on here that you can write the fertilizer companies and tell them you are thinking about switching ferts and they will mail you some free ones to try and get you to switch over so maybe try that?
rasputin71
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I top my pro-mix with Bat Guano at Day 0 and Day 30 of flower currently and will probably add the sub-cultures to the mix for soil micronutes. http://www.generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/subculture.html
The GO line will likely not save you any money. I recently saw that also. People got the entire GO line of quart bottles for $25 shipping.
HotPhyre
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Well i will email them right now!!
Howard Stern
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Yeah I am thinking about mailing Advance Nute for some free shit. I hear good things about them and I really don't want to shell out 3-400 on nutes as a "test"
HotPhyre
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Well i was just on the earth juice website and all they have is a retail store list no contact info or any way to contact them personally, lol
Howard Stern
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This is what I wrote to AN I will let you guys know what they say if anything. I am all legal and stay within the law so if they rat me out I am fine! And if they do I will be on the forums here stomping around crying!
LOL Hey there my name is EDIT and I am currently using Fox Farms Ocean forest Soil and their 6 products Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, Grow Big, Open Sesami, Cha Ching, and Beastie Bloomz. I have been kicking around the idea of switching up my fertilizer line to you guys but that is a big expense to do a test. Is there anything that you guys send out to prospective customers like me to try out? I would like to do a side by side on a couple of plants to see if yours is better. If not that is cool, it never hurts to ask. Also I don’t know what lineup you guys offer that would replace what I am currently using. If you need any info from me please feel free to ask. I could write down the N-P-K info of all the FF stuff I am using if that would help you guys give me info on what I can replace my FF nutes with in your line.
Oh and I went to a hydro store and wanted to try out your CarboLoad product. Well the guy talked me into buying bud candy instead. Does the Bud Candy work just as well as CarboLoad? Or should I have bought the CarboLoad alone to help my plants pack on weight?
Thanks