How Much For Your Own Supply?

snowman4839

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How much do you guys have to grow to get enough for a self-supply? I'm growing 2 plants and I'm a new smoker. I started 2 months ago and realized that the prices around here suck and so does the weed. I also didn't really like getting shit from the shady people around here. So within thinking about it over the span of like 2-3 days, I was ordering my first grow lights. I already got two sprouts. One is a shitty weed bagseed and the other is a fem'd white widow. I've heard that people make enough to self-supply with just two plants and can make upwards of an ounce a month with two plants. I'm going to have to harvest at 2ft tall. So two plants harvesting at 2ft tall. Any idea what type of yield that will get? I know that's a shitty question to ask but consider that I keep it with 4500 lumens (separate grow boxes so 4500 lumens each) of CFL at mixed color temps and keeping it at a good 78-82F. You can check out the grows in my sig. Should I be growing more or differently if I want at least a gram a day or about an ounce a month?
 

NoDrama

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A single 400 W HPS light will get you enough on harvest day to last you until next harvest. A 400 Watt HPS puts out about 50,000 lumens. Unfortunately your 4500 lumens isn't much, I wouldn't expect more than 5 grams off each plant and that 5 grams will be the fluffiest most insubstantial weed you ever smoked. Get a HPS and never look back. Anything less than 400 watts is a letdown.
 

jason1976

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gotta agree on this one. i veg with clfs and flower with 400 watt hps, htgsupply has them for 119. 55000 lumens. check it out. worth the dough.
 
I msoke alot and can go thru on oz every week if having a heavy work load week and need to think and I am growing perpetually 7 plants, then 4, always less then the legal number in case a really good strain comes around, you will have room.
 

snowman4839

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A single 400 W HPS light will get you enough on harvest day to last you until next harvest. A 400 Watt HPS puts out about 50,000 lumens. Unfortunately your 4500 lumens isn't much, I wouldn't expect more than 5 grams off each plant and that 5 grams will be the fluffiest most insubstantial weed you ever smoked. Get a HPS and never look back. Anything less than 400 watts is a letdown.
Should I really buy one 400W HPS for a single plant? Or can I get like 2 150W or 200W HPS
 

wiseguy316

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i don't use cfls except in early veg, but it can be done from start to finish with them,,but not 4500 lumens. spinning your wheels.
 

wiseguy316

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i used a 400 on one plant and pulled 6 oz's off it. u can have 6 small plants or one nice one and yield the same from a 400.
 

webb107

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i don't use cfls except in early veg, but it can be done from start to finish with them,,but not 4500 lumens. spinning your wheels.
CFLS are great for whole veg, ive had some very good results, but i do flower with a 600w HPS
 

SmokeyMcSmokester

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you can do pretty good with a 150W if you cant afford the 400..I started off with a 150 and would get very nice results. Here is one of my first journals to show you what a 150 can do, with not the best set up..
 

NoDrama

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Should I really buy one 400W HPS for a single plant? Or can I get like 2 150W or 200W HPS
Shit dude, I use two 600 Watt HPS lights for a single plant. The more light the more product. Adding more light is the NUMBER ONE improvemnt you can make to yield. More than any magical Nutrient, soil, propagation method, hydro, aero, deep water whathaveyou method. More effective than CO2 with a molasses chaser. a 400 Watt is CHEAP, and they sell the bulbs at home depot or Lowes for $17.
 

klmmicro

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I would think that you could get an ounce a month if you grow three plants. You would have a fresh clone or seedling that would take about 30 days to aggressively start to flower. Plants two and three would be flowering, one at 30 days (60 total days of growth) and one at 60 into flowering (90 days total growth). If you start the plants at 12 and 12, this scenario would have a fresh plant growing to fill in the mature plant you harvest. I guess technically that means 4 plants, but one is being cut down for drying and curing. The plants would probably not get that big, but that is dependent on strain. Either a pure or predominately Indica strain would be best as they mature rapidly once flowering. I would think that your largest plant (the one getting harvested) would be about 2.5 to 3 foot tall.

Most Indica strains will produce 1 to 1.5 ounces from a single plant when started 12/12. This is assuming you are doing a soil grow, which is the most forgiving method for beginners. There is no way to know what your exact yield will be as there are so many variables, but an ounce would be a safe bet. With a perpetual grow and no problems arising, 4 plants in rotation would keep you supplied to your desired amount indefinitely. All of this with a single "lighting source". I would aim for 300-400 watts of lighting for the entire operation.

One thing to consider, my scenario above is contingent upon you having a steady supply of feminized seeds. You are only germing one every 30 days, so your cost would be cheap. Cheaper still would be cloning, but this brings up a whole new set of variables and learning. Seeds in soil will get you started as you learn better propagation and grow methods.
 

IXOYE

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My 250w is proving to be decent for three plants. I would have gone bigger if heat wasn't an issue though as the price diff between the 250 and 400 wasn't all that substantial. But as per your question, it depends on how much you smoke!
 

klmmicro

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People pointing out using HID systems for your grow are right now the money. I have grown 2 plants under a single 400 watt HPS that yielded almost 3 ounces per in soil. My 600 watt HPS produced the same yield, but on 5 plants for a total of about 10 ounces dried and cured.
 

Snow Crash

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My usage is at least 2 grams, and up to 3 grams per day.

I thought a 400w would be enough. I was wrong.

Now I run a 1000w system and everything is gravy. Pulling a pound (456+ grams) from a 1000w with a healthy canopy and plants is pretty easy. I aim for 3 harvests a year, 500 grams per harvest, and that leaves me with enough "extra" to pack some fat blunts and make a little hash.

Seems to me like there is never "too much." It's a lot like money.
 

Turtle Koi

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A single 400 W HPS light will get you enough on harvest day to last you until next harvest. A 400 Watt HPS puts out about 50,000 lumens. Unfortunately your 4500 lumens isn't much, I wouldn't expect more than 5 grams off each plant and that 5 grams will be the fluffiest most insubstantial weed you ever smoked. Get a HPS and never look back. Anything less than 400 watts is a letdown.
agreed came outta my mouth
 

Turtle Koi

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My usage is at least 2 grams, and up to 3 grams per day.

I thought a 400w would be enough. I was wrong.

Now I run a 1000w system and everything is gravy. Pulling a pound (456+ grams) from a 1000w with a healthy canopy and plants is pretty easy. I aim for 3 harvests a year, 500 grams per harvest, and that leaves me with enough "extra" to pack some fat blunts and make a little hash.

Seems to me like there is never "too much." It's a lot like money.
For reals? Will get another 400W this weekend. What u think 800HPS? or 400HPS and 400MH?

tanks
 

Turtle Koi

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For reals? Will get another 400W this weekend. What u think 800HPS? or 400HPS and 400MH?

tanks
I use an ounce a week by the way, and have 14 plants at the moment but thinking of having a perpetual 10 plant grow with separate flow and veg rooms. Will I get enough?? I dont want to give a single dollar more to this stupid drugwar. Thanks

tk
 

Snow Crash

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So, you're on at least 4 grams a day.

Figure if a start to finish grow takes 120 days from seed to harvest, you need to make sure you're getting 480 grams every harvest. I'm in about the same boat. Technically a 1000w system is a little over kill but it allows for mistakes to be made without forcing you to go dry. If you harvest more than you plan on then fantastic. Two 400w systems means you'd need 240 grams from each of those. Totally doable.

If you start running clones for a 70 day clone to harvest that'd be 5 harvests per year and you'd only need 280 grams from each harvest. So with the right setup, dialed nutrients, high yielding strain, and some luck, you could get all you need from a 400w system for flowering and a clone tent on the side. Just depends on how you want to do it.
 

Turtle Koi

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So, you're on at least 4 grams a day.

Figure if a start to finish grow takes 120 days from seed to harvest, you need to make sure you're getting 480 grams every harvest. I'm in about the same boat. Technically a 1000w system is a little over kill but it allows for mistakes to be made without forcing you to go dry. If you harvest more than you plan on then fantastic. Two 400w systems means you'd need 240 grams from each of those. Totally doable.

If you start running clones for a 70 day clone to harvest that'd be 5 harvests per year and you'd only need 280 grams from each harvest. So with the right setup, dialed nutrients, high yielding strain, and some luck, you could get all you need from a 400w system for flowering and a clone tent on the side. Just depends on how you want to do it.
You've got it pretty clear mate. Nice lirol formula you got there. Rep up from a newie lol! Will let you know how it goes. Will finish up my cloning-veggin lirl room soon will send you pics. Definitely adding 400 watts more. should I go half and half mh/hps or only hps since it is the flowering room?

-ppreciated
 

NoDrama

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wow you guys smoke alot, takes me 2 weeks to go through an ounce and thats sharing with a couple people once in a while too. I been smokin for 26 years now.
 
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