are my seeds worth shit? +rep

middle84

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I had a OG #18 from res priv. and it looked 100% female even was making dank buds very frosty.

I took a sample of her cause they were starting to go from clear to cloudy. and in the bud i broke up I found two mature seeds dark with stripes. Are these viable seeds or are they bunk because they came from a hermie?

can these seeds produce a viable female or will it's offspring be genetically destined to be hermie as well
 

smokecat

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I had a OG #18 from res priv. and it looked 100% female even was making dank buds very frosty.

I took a sample of her cause they were starting to go from clear to cloudy. and in the bud i broke up I found two mature seeds dark with stripes. Are these viable seeds or are they bunk because they came from a hermie?

can these seeds produce a viable female or will it's offspring be genetically destined to be hermie as well
A hermie will make hermie/ hermie-prone offspring. The pollen from this plant w/a female would make (mostly?) female plants. The seeds aren't really any good to my knowledge.
 

doowmd

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Well I've read different things on here. 1 of em is that a seed that comes from a hermie will 100% be a female. The other is thing is that is is highly likely that it will end up herming itself. I think as long as you don't stress it w/ light leaks, improper watering techniques, etc, then you'll end up w/ a female O.G. #18. PLANT IT AND START A JOURNAL! I'LL SUBSCRIBE!!
 

doowmd

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Are you positive it was a hermie? There's absolutely no way any pollen coulda' got in there?
 

upthearsenal

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To make fem seeds you take the pollen from one pistillate female that was forced to herm, and pollinate ANOTHER female with that pollen. Those seeds will be mostly desirable females.
 

researchkitty

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Is this not the same way FEM seeds are made?
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Is this not the same way FEM seeds are made?
Exactly! Hermied plants make female seeds, female seeds are ONLY made by force hermi'n a female.
 

upthearsenal

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yes i can see your logic in that, jumping in to quick i think..
It's not only logic my friend, it's knowledge gained through simple reading.

From Robert Clarke's "Marijuana Botany":

"Since then it has generally been assumed by researchers and breeders that a cross between ANY unselected hermaphrodite plant and a pistillate seed-parent should result in a population of all pistillate offspring. This is not the case. In most cases, the offspring of hermaphrodite parents tend toward hermaphrodism, which is largely unfavorable for the production of Cannabis..."

"If pollen from these few staminate flowers forming on a pistillate plant is applied to a pure pistillate seed parent, the resulting F1 generation should be almost all pistillate with only a few pistillate hermaphrodites."

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researchkitty

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Because some dildo has it in a book and you quote it you think its true? Books are usually (always) out of date, old methods, old thinking. Show me a study that compares method of hermie seeds and I'll concede. :) If you cant find shit, and anyone else cant find a real study either, then....................
 

upthearsenal

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Because some dildo has it in a book and you quote it you think its true? Books are usually (always) out of date, old methods, old thinking. Show me a study that compares method of hermie seeds and I'll concede. :) If you cant find shit, and anyone else cant find a real study either, then....................
What? Do you know who he is? This guy is a scientist man, his book has a fat bibliography and he sites many experiments, studies and, such... I don't know why you think books are "usually (always)" out of date, it's not like they stopped printing books years ago... That's a crazy mentality in my opinion, books are soild and are something I trust as far as good information.. maybe if it were 100 years old, but MJ growing, or simple botany for that matter, hasn't changed dramatically in the past ten years..
 

Total Head

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the seeds are not "guaranteed" to be hermi but they will be more likely to herm. since the mother is not a "true female" she cannot guarantee all female offspring, either. self pollinating a herm and self pollinating a true female are not the same thing as the mothers are not sexually identical. i grow out my herm seeds if the cross intrigues me, i just don't expect miracles. if i get a good plant it's merely a bonus. i wouldn't invest a whole grow in hermi seeds, that's for sure. i have a batch of hermi seeds that i have very high hopes for, but i will only grow one per round.
 

upthearsenal

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You grow out the seeds from a herm that pollinated itself? How is the female ratio? If I had a hermi and it pollinated another female that didn't herm, I might try the "cross", might as well.
 

NoobgrowerLbc

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eXperience a hermie will produce the regular seeds, with a catch, high number of male ratio, if the herm will produce herm theory is true why didnt i get any? Instead out of 12 plants i only had 3 female and the rest were male i threw the males outdoor hoping to get seeded buds and in the end. All i got was hash, becuase they werent hermies just regular males and the indoor females were pure females now i wish i had saved a male to get more seeds.
 

upthearsenal

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eXperience a hermie will produce the regular seeds, with a catch, high number of male ratio, if the herm will produce herm theory is true why didnt i get any? Instead out of 12 plants i only had 3 female and the rest were male i threw the males outdoor hoping to get seeded buds and in the end. All i got was hash, becuase they werent hermies just regular males and the indoor females were pure females now i wish i had saved a male to get more seeds.
From what I read, a herm won't solely produce herms, but mostly. Obviously I don't know why your situation happened the way it did..? You realize that your experience is anecdotal, and there are too many variables to say confidently that a herm will produce only reg seeds with a high male ratio...
 
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