Molasses. A double edged sword?

[anonymuss]

and please stop asking about molasses and hydro thats just stupid.

 

[applepoop1984]

and please stop asking about molasses and hydro thats just stupid.

oh yeah well, some company thought it would be profitable...

 

[Medi 1]

while were stating the obvious what r ur thought on fire? is it hot? but seriously guy, if u read all my posts on this thread ud see i stated "carbohydrates" nuff said. so 4 divided by 16 , well my mayeb my math was off a little

so why the poke then if you admit your info was wrong...dont get it. all i was trying to do was point out that total should read 16.54 not 5.85. if its so obvious why did it take this long to catch on???
and feed the plants 5 ml of fire each week....lol...jk
now you say 4 devided by 16...what are you talking about, theres just over 16g of sugar/carbs. no division there or other numbers.

 

[applepoop1984]

so why the poke then if you admit your info was wrong...dont get it. all i was trying to do was point out that total should read 16.54 not 5.85. if its so obvious why did it take this long to catch on???
and feed the plants 5 ml of fire each week....lol...jk
now you say 4 devided by 16...what are you talking about, theres just over 16g of sugar/carbs. no division there or other numbers.

lol youfool. haha jk. im dyslexic i understand... anyways 16 CALORIES equates to about 4 grams sugar lol sorry for the confusion. i underestimated the calories per teaspoon im not very good with math. so ti shoudl be about 17 or so calories per tsp my mistake!

 

[Medi 1]

its ok. im not even talking about the calories at all. look at the amounts of each form of carb/sugar and add them up. its not what that post says is the total sugar. total sugar shows 5.85 but if you add them up its 16.54. and im not talking about calories per spoon either...lol

 

[applepoop1984]

lol youfool. haha jk. im dyslexic i understand... anyways 16 CALORIES equates to about 4 grams sugar lol sorry for the confusion. i underestimated the calories per teaspoon im not very good with math. so ti shoudl be about 17 or so calories per tsp my mistake!

anyways theres about 4 calories per 1 gram sugar . its nto exact but its a good rule of finger and this isnt rocket science lol

 

[applepoop1984]

its ok. im not even talking about the calories at all. look at the amounts of each form of carb/sugar and add them up. its not what that post says is the total sugar. total sugar shows 5.85 but if you add them up its 16.54. and im not talking about calories per spoon either...lol

again nto rocket science. 1 gram of sugar plus or minus isnt too big of a deal. just dilute it to the strength that hydroponic nutrient companies dilute it to. i dont use hydro but im sure theres better ways of making molasses derived hydro ferts as opposed to 5$ for a bottle of miracle gro all purpose molasses

 

[applepoop1984]

i see what u were asking. well u haev to look it says sugars and carbs right? Complex carbohydrates are also known as starches. Simple carbohydrates are also called simple sugars. so u see they're 2 different sources of calories. yay i managed to include calories, carbs, and sugars all in the same post this time

 

[Medi 1]

what again....lol. mg dont make molasses they make bad nutes. and theres a huge diff rom 16 gram sugar to the 6 it says is the total. not just 1 gram out its out huge. your obvioulsly not following what im talking about, you ke3ep reffering to calorie numbers and ive not said 1 word on calories yet. all the diff forms of sugar in it im talking about..and how do you know us nute co dilute molasses to. we dont say that on any bottles

 

[Medi 1]

again..nothing to do with calories here.

 

[Medi 1]

ill try this again...lol

below is a list from what you posted on all the forms of sugars in this bottle...ok?

Carbohydrates
8.31 g
Other carbs
2.46 g
Monosaccharide
2.09 g
Disaccharides
3.68 g

now add those amounts together and tell me its still 5.85g as it says it is. its not, its over 16. least it used to be when i went to skool unless they changed how math works

Sugar- total
5.85 g

 

[Medi 1]

the sachrides alone are more than what they think is a total sugar count...in grams of sugar not calories

 

[applepoop1984]

ill try this again...lol

below is a list from what you posted on all the forms of sugars in this bottle...ok?

Carbohydrates
8.31 g
Other carbs
2.46 g
Monosaccharide
2.09 g
Disaccharides
3.68 g

now add those amounts together and tell me its still 5.85g as it says it is. its not, its over 16. least it used to be when i went to skool unless they changed how math works

Sugar- total
5.85 g

complex carbs and simpel are 2 different things. ur comparign sugars to starches its nto going to work. advanced nutrients sweet leaf states they dilute to 20% molasses.

 

[applepoop1984]

what again....lol. mg dont make molasses they make bad nutes. and theres a huge diff rom 16 gram sugar to the 6 it says is the total. not just 1 gram out its out huge. your obvioulsly not following what im talking about, you ke3ep reffering to calorie numbers and ive not said 1 word on calories yet. all the diff forms of sugar in it im talking about..and how do you know us nute co dilute molasses to. we dont say that on any bottles

organic Choice is a line of organic products manufactured by Scott's Miracle-Gro. The All-Purpose Plant Food in liquid form is derived from sugar beet molasses and can be used on outside plants and container plants. The dry All-Purpose Plant Food contains chicken litter and feather meal and can be used on outside plants. "

they most certainly do use molasses

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[Hudsonvalley82]

First, nutritional data never mentions nitrogen as it is not a recorded nutrient for humans, everything listed on there (your link) is a mineral. Nitrogen is not a mineral.
Secondly the reason my link had nitrogen is that it is referring to cattle feed and nitrogen levels are necessary to claim in order to make sure it agrees with the fermentation microbes in cows stomach(s)

Thirdly, I dont think I ever claimed anything will swell your buds or what not. If you want to swell you buds (if that is even an achievable goal) then swell your soils cultures. Microbe shit = swelled bud. Best microbe food = herbivore/insect(ivore??) shit and molasses.

I think everyone else touched on whatever retorts I might have had...

These are 'daily values' for humans, not plants. Fertilizer percentages are by weight which greatly skews those percentages.

Here is a link to the nutritional value and with some simple math, you'll reach the same percentages that I originally quoted.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/5573/2

In regards to your 'quote from another forum', I was hoping for a link to a Schultz plant food product that verifies your statement above. Even if a few products are in-fact 'derived from molasses', I can promise you that they'll be of greater value to plants which doesn't mean you can get the same results using whatever molasses you guys buy.

At the end of the day, facts are facts and molasses simply doesn't contain the minerals or properties that contribute to 'fatter buds with more thc'.

 

[Medi 1]

and again sugar is sugar no matter the form. from surcrose to glucose and many many others. its still a sugar no matter how its sliced. need to total all forms. and as i said mg has multiple law suits against them for the lies they make on labels, and advanced...well i think he speeks for himself on over exagerted lies, is the reason right now agriculture is telling him to pull his shit off shelves till he tells the truth on whats in them.
but at least bnow i see why you where going a diff direction than i was trying to talk about,. also mg was made to grow veggies n tomatoes so the ellemnts arent in good ballance to what we need for best results. some of the lawn fert claims organic but yet it will kill a dog if it licks the grass after treatment. dont sound organic to me. dont believe all what you read on labels

 

[Medi 1]

want swelled buds look at what triacantonol can do for your grows..another form of sugar, very expensive process but a couple of us do it for the nutes we sell.

 

[applepoop1984]

and again sugar is sugar no matter the form. from surcrose to glucose and many many others. its still a sugar no matter how its sliced. need to total all forms. and as i said mg has multiple law suits against them for the lies they make on labels, and advanced...well i think he speeks for himself on over exagerted lies, is the reason right now agriculture is telling him to pull his shit off shelves till he tells the truth on whats in them.
but at least bnow i see why you where going a diff direction than i was trying to talk about,. also mg was made to grow veggies n tomatoes so the ellemnts arent in good ballance to what we need for best results. some of the lawn fert claims organic but yet it will kill a dog if it licks the grass after treatment. dont sound organic to me. dont believe all what you read on labels

and yet again and again SUGAR IS NOT A STARCH. it is a sugar lol. ur combinign the num,ber for STARCHES and the number for SUGARS. saccharides are traditonally sugars. tomato is an "acid lovign plant" liek pot,
back to the sugars, only thingi saw upt here that were sugars were label as saccharides or something. starches and other starches are not sugar.

 

[Medi 1]

and again i didnt say shit about starhces...yiu did and tomatoes have nothing to do with what we grow. its hops that is the closest related plant. what i listed are all sugar not just starches
i didnt list starches...all sugars in diff forms

 

[Xare]

The most effective use of Molasses is food for your Symbiotic Micro-herd.

If its being used for any other purpose its economically unsound.