Lets stir things up!!

NoDrama

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So how come we still haven't seen a BIRTH CERTIFICATE, you know the one that is signed by the doctor, states times and dates and weights and all that good stuff. your pictures show NOTHING relevant AT ALL. NOTHING! Your pictures are Certificates Of Live Birth, Not the same thing as a birth certificate. All babies born in Hawaii were issued a BIRTH CERTIFICATE, just like all the other states did. But for some reason they can't find Obama's.
Hey guess what? I called the Hawaii papers and told them about my birth, they printed it. A paper will print anything for anyone, that clipping from the newspaper says nothing about where he was born, all it states is that so and so who are registered to such and such address had a baby boy, that is not proof of ANYTHING. Come up with some REAL evidence, not the same lame shit that has been circulating for years and years. Grandma could have called the paper from Kenya and told them to print that little blurb so that all the folks who knew the Obama's in Hawaii would know they had a baby. The only thing the paper clipping proves is that someone asked the paper to print that they had a baby. Thats all.
 

UncleBuck

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So how come we still haven't seen a BIRTH CERTIFICATE, you know the one that is signed by the doctor, states times and dates and weights and all that good stuff. your pictures show NOTHING relevant AT ALL. NOTHING! Your pictures are Certificates Of Live Birth, Not the same thing as a birth certificate. All babies born in Hawaii were issued a BIRTH CERTIFICATE, just like all the other states did. But for some reason they can't find Obama's.
Hey guess what? I called the Hawaii papers and told them about my birth, they printed it. A paper will print anything for anyone, that clipping from the newspaper says nothing about where he was born, all it states is that so and so who are registered to such and such address had a baby boy, that is not proof of ANYTHING. Come up with some REAL evidence, not the same lame shit that has been circulating for years and years. Grandma could have called the paper from Kenya and told them to print that little blurb so that all the folks who knew the Obama's in Hawaii would know they had a baby. The only thing the paper clipping proves is that someone asked the paper to print that they had a baby. Thats all.
like i said, no amount of evidence will satisfy those too obstinate to acknowledge it.

it says "certification of live birth". it is the short form and meets all the requirements to prove US citizenship, i.e. the main requirement to be president.

i'm sure that your theory is correct, that he was born in kenya and they phoned hawaii newspapers to make it look legit so that more than 40 years in the future, he could run for president. :dunce:

this thread is complete FAIL.
 

NoDrama

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like i said, no amount of evidence will satisfy those too obstinate to acknowledge it.

it says "certification of live birth". it is the short form and meets all the requirements to prove US citizenship,
It might be enough to get you the presidency, but it wouldn't get you a driver license.


  1. Acceptable Documents for Proof of Name and Birth Date: Including 18 years old

    1. U.S. Territorial Driver's License (expired/valid with photo).

    2. U.S. Passport only.

    3. U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Document/Card.

    4. Alien Registration/Refugee ID Card.

    5. State of Hawaii ID Card w/photo.

    6. Military Documents: Consular Report of Birth and U.S. Military issued Certificate of Birth (SF-240/SF-545).

    7. State Certified Birth Certificate with both parents listed or State Certified Birth ID Card
http://www1.honolulu.gov/csd/vehicle/dlrequirements.htm
 

UncleBuck

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It might be enough to get you the presidency, but it wouldn't get you a driver license.



  1. Acceptable Documents for Proof of Name and Birth Date: Including 18 years old

    1. U.S. Territorial Driver's License (expired/valid with photo).

    2. U.S. Passport only.

    3. U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Document/Card.

    4. Alien Registration/Refugee ID Card.

    5. State of Hawaii ID Card w/photo.

    6. Military Documents: Consular Report of Birth and U.S. Military issued Certificate of Birth (SF-240/SF-545).

    7. State Certified Birth Certificate with both parents listed or State Certified Birth ID Card

http://www1.honolulu.gov/csd/vehicle/dlrequirements.htm
what i presented you is sufficient to obtain a passport.

*yawn*

[insert birther joke here]

i think obama may be intentionally withholding his long form right now because it makes people like you appear foolish.

i reserve that i may be wrong, and you correct. it is a possibility at least, and i can not rule it out.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
But let us be clear, what you provided is NOT a birth certificate, it is a Certification of live birth. A birth Certificate has Doctors signatures. A certificate of live birth is not an official document of birth, anyone can get one, even if you were born in an entirely different country, all it is is proof that you were born, because without proper documentation you do not exist, the fact that you are alive does not mean that you were born, you have to have paperwork to prove you were born and didn't just appear from a ball of clay.
 

bunnyface

Well-Known Member
Hey,,
just as a point of veiw,,dont you have agencys and organisations in the U.S that arnt party related(so it dosnt matter whos in the power the FBI, NSA ,CIA,AFT etc. all still work regardless.)
surely if he wasnt a U.S. citizen one of your agency would of background checked and checked again to make sure he is allowed to do the job? and is who he says he is?
Surely your all powerful 'big brother' of a government could of found out.
hey thats an idea,,, Hell he could be bin laden with plastic surgey!!!! ha,that would explain why we havnt seen him(on those videos) in years!!!
ha,take it easy.
 

undertheice

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don't you have agencies and organizations in the U.S that aren't party related
hell no, i can't think of a nation that does. everyone in government is beholden to someone and everyone is washing everyone else's back. even opposing forces usually maintain a tacit agreement that the chain of power must remain unbroken. even party allegiance is secondary to maintaining the status quo.
 

UncleBuck

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But let us be clear, what you provided is NOT a birth certificate, it is a Certification of live birth. A birth Certificate has Doctors signatures. A certificate of live birth is not an official document of birth, anyone can get one, even if you were born in an entirely different country, all it is is proof that you were born, because without proper documentation you do not exist, the fact that you are alive does not mean that you were born, you have to have paperwork to prove you were born and didn't just appear from a ball of clay.
a certification of live birth from the state of hawaii is sufficient to prove citizenship and obtain a us passport.

derp dee der.
 

canuckgrow

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All I know is US citizen or not out of all the presidents in my memory he is the only one I would smoke a joint with.
 

RawBudzski

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so true. Obama is the only pres I would go out and pull hoes with. could you imagine if he were single rolling around in that Armored Car. Obama kicks ass and if you Honestly Hate him in your heart your white.
 
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