Will fish emulsion work in soil?

Dizzle Frost

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I bought some fish emulsion as a foliar feed..i was wondering if it works in a tea when watered in the soil. Ive heard it doesnt...just wanted to hear your opinions. SHould i stick with foliar only? is it a waste to water with?

this is 5-1-1 Muskie Emulsion by Green Earth

thanks
Dizzle
 

Mother's Finest

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You'd get better results in the soil than as a foliar feed with that particular fertilizer. Fish Emulsion is great stuff but it's harsh on the plant when compared to most other organics. Foliar feeds work best when performed with a mild to light fertilizer that is easily absorbable by the plant. Maxicrop is the only fert we use regularly for foliar feeds.

Don't add F.E. to fertilizer teas until after they are made. F.E. mixes easily with water and so will only get in the way of the absorbtion of other nutrients when steeping tea. Make tea from solid organic ferts, filter insolubles out and then add easily soluble ferts to the mix.
 

Dizzle Frost

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You'd get better results in the soil than as a foliar feed with that particular fertilizer. Fish Emulsion is great stuff but it's harsh on the plant when compared to most other organics. Foliar feeds work best when performed with a mild to light fertilizer that is easily absorbable by the plant. Maxicrop is the only fert we use regularly for foliar feeds.

Don't add F.E. to fertilizer teas until after they are made. F.E. mixes easily with water and so will only get in the way of the absorbtion of other nutrients when steeping tea. Make tea from solid organic ferts, filter insolubles out and then add easily soluble ferts to the mix.
Awesomeness! thank you.....Mothers Finest. I just mixed 3ml /litre of water and used it that way.


this stuff STINKS! lol made the whole room smell like a river but its going away now thank goodness :)
 

phenix white

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well i had great results with it before well my first grow! i used fertilome fish emulsion 5-1-1. but bad thing is its high in acid and metals mecury is found in all fish emulsion...i will say this the tatse is fishey in the end bro lol but it is good if u find the right fish produced kinda fert.
 

Mother's Finest

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Some brands of F.E. have virtually no smell because of a substance (i believe an oil) added to the mix that coats and binds odors. These brands are usually labeled as "not organic" because of the unnatural additive. In my experience, the additives have no detrimental effect and they should not prevent a grow from being considered "organic."
 

snew

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Don't add F.E. to fertilizer teas until after they are made. F.E. mixes easily with water and so will only get in the way of the absorbtion of other nutrients when steeping tea. Make tea from solid organic ferts, filter insolubles out and then add easily soluble ferts to the mix.
I've been putting my FE to my tea the day before thinking the micro-herd might benefit from organisms FE. You feel this may not be beneficial but may get in the way of absorbrion? Could you elaborate on that a little I would like to know why.
By the way I like your handle. Is it from the old group? 1st concert I saw they opened for.
 

Mother's Finest

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We have an analysis of multiple organic fertilizers, including Fish Emulsion, at 1/2x, 1x, 2.5x and 5x concentrations, originally found online. It gets messed up when we try to post it here and takes awhile to get it reorganized, so I'm not going to go through all that right now. The point is that if you look at the ppm of each nutrient under each concentration, the numbers don't go up linearly. The Fish Emulsion analysis, for example, lists ppm's at 34, 33, 35, 39 for Calcium at each of the four concentrations. Adding ten times the first concentration only increases the tested dissolved calcium content by about 14%. The 1x concentration even tested at less Calcium than when mixing half as much F.E. in the water. So how is this happening?

Take three coffee mugs full of exactly equal amounts of pure water and mix a TBS of salt in one and a TBS of sugar in another. Out of the three mugs, which will you now be able to dissolve the most extra salt in? The one that has only pure water. The fact that one of the other two has no salt in it is irrelevant to the question. The dissolved sugar will affect the amount of salt you can dissolve. The same thing also happens when mixing fertilizers. Even if you haven't yet put any Potassium in the tea you've been steeping Nitrogen and Phosphorus in all day, if you try to dissolve some K in what is currently a mud of other ferts, you won't get nearly as much to dissolve or get it to dissolve as quickly as if you had put it in pure water.

Some fertilizers dissolve very easily in water and don't require any more time than it takes to stir them to do so. The more easily a substance dissolves, the less other substances in the water will affect its dissolution. Because of this, growers should always start a nutrient mix by steeping the hardest to dissolve fertilizers first; the ones that take many hours to get all the good stuff out of like Guanos & Meals. Filter insolubles out next because if you wait until later, you'll lose some of the ferts you put in next when you do filter it. Now put in Maxicrop, any salts, soluble vitamins, pH adjusters; anything that doesn't need hours to steep. None of these last amendments should leave solids behind that need to be filtered out. Ferts that do that are only used in the first step.
 
Outdoors,you can use an FE tea after the first 3-4 weeks for nice boost of growth and bushiness. Plus it's easy to carry in if you have nearby water sources,say a creek or a spring. Take bleach/milk jug with you and you can mix it on the spot.

I always went light on the mix,about a 1/3 of what is recommended,as I feel it promotes stretching between the nodes at the prescibed doses. The plants got the weak tea about once a week,depending on the rain,and when I felt it was safe to check my patches.

I'd stop using it entirely come early/mid-July,as that's when the male plant starts stretching on it's own getting ready to flower.The pre-flower stretch of the males was the way id'ed the boys before they started to flower,and felt confident to go ahead and cull them,as with my grows I never liked to check the plants more than I had to.

I can really only reccomend it for pure guerilla grows. If your plants are near the house, or indoors, you're much better off using a manure tea. I like steer manure,but you can go with whatever floats your boat.
 

Cannabis Krew 420

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yes last year i used bat guano and worm castings in the soil and added fish emulsions to every other water, it worked great the plants loved it and grew huge
 
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