My first grow, 30 days to go, yellowing dying leaves

Animal Ramble Plantation

Animal Ramble Plantation

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Dude in all reality, your plant could turn dirt brown on the very last day of flowering and straight up be fine. When that shit happened to me on my first few grows i figured out it was because i was giving them way to much light. like intensity wise, not exposure. My thought is, if the actual bud is in good health, then all is well.
 
Erdericks

Erdericks

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Animal Ramble Plantation said:
Dude in all reality, your plant could turn dirt brown on the very last day of flowering and straight up be fine. When that shit happened to me on my first few grows i figured out it was because i was giving them way to much light. like intensity wise, not exposure. My thought is, if the actual bud is in good health, then all is well.
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I hear ya there, just odd that its starting to look worse with 28 days to go..

my humidity is kinda low, but I know when budding its better to have a slightly lower humidity to avoid bud rot.
 
Erdericks

Erdericks

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Just looked in on my ladies, and yet again there is now even more yellowing leaves,. still 28 days to go, buds look fine but at this rate it wont have 1 leaf left before the 28 days is up, Could this 1 plant flower much faster than others?
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superjet

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are they burning up or locked out? maybe a flush? i had similar problems because of runaway PPMs which was causing a salt lock out and my leaves mostly mid to bottom started dropping like flies, lol, until a good flush saved what leaves i had left. actually it wasn't funny at all!
 
Erdericks

Erdericks

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Hmm, PPM was about 1800 or so sunday. But they been at these levels after 2 weeks of flowering and bloomed like crazy,
Again using botinacare nutes http://botanicare.net/
pro blend bloom and liquid karma

I can flush them, but only this plant is reacting this badly.
 
Ku$hking3883

Ku$hking3883

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looks like a little neut burn and then a little over watering. I have plant about 30 in to flowering. After a cretin time of flowering you get die off.
 
Erdericks

Erdericks

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Hmm, I can flush em, and add water to the reservoir to drop the ppm
ph has been stable

thanks for the info, I know what i'll be doing in the morning.
 
Scrogreen

Scrogreen

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The pics look good bro! As for the yellowing flower.... I do think its a little nuke burn as well as maybe not enough air flow through the middle parts. Is it the smallest plant that is losing the leaves? Im not sure if I would flush if the other plants are doing well. Maybe lower the ppm 2 1600. Just my 2 cents.
 
Erdericks

Erdericks

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Actually it's the largest She's Taking up as much room as she can and growing fast as heck, Could she be some kinda genetic abnormality?
Maybe a fast and agressive bloomer?
Could she be closer to done that I believe?
 
Scrogreen

Scrogreen

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If she is an early finisher then she will finish right around 55 days or so. Its hard to find strains that finish that fast but maybe you got lucky. Most finish between 60-70 days. How far in are you? Its very unlikly you have a plant with a genetic abnormality but anything can happen. She is a different strain then the rest also right? Different strains like differernt ppm at different times. So while the other strains like the 1800ppm she might not.
 
Snow Crash

Snow Crash

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That last picture you posted shows some severe signs.

It is either spider mites or pH spotting.

1800ppm is outrageous. I don't even know if my Hanna Gro'Chek could even verify that. That is an EC of 3.6... Much higher than any nutrient calculator I've come in contact with. Most companies suggest an EC level as high as 2.5 during parts of the grow but yours is crazy high.

To put it another way, I've fed plants at 1800ppm and had them burn up before. The tolerance to high EC is strain dependent and you got lucky not frying your plants out completely. If you are in the last 3-4 weeks of life then you definitely should be dropping your levels. I'm running about 1/3 of what you are and my plants are about as far into flowering as these plants.
 
Scrogreen

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ppm conparied to EC just depends on what scale you are on. However I do agree with 1800ppm being to high. I have been seeing that plants like the lighter side of feeding, around 1.5ec. You can go higher but I think thats the most efficient. I also agree with crash about starting to lower it because they are getting to the end of there cycle. The last week if not 2 weeks should be just clean water so you can get a clean burn when you smoke.
 
Erdericks

Erdericks

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Scrogreen said:
ppm conparied to EC just depends on what scale you are on. However I do agree with 1800ppm being to high. I have been seeing that plants like the lighter side of feeding, around 1.5ec. You can go higher but I think thats the most efficient. I also agree with crash about starting to lower it because they are getting to the end of there cycle. The last week if not 2 weeks should be just clean water so you can get a clean burn when you smoke.
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They are 33 days into flowering, with 27 days left
They were all bagseed, I believe my HUGE Momma was one of our "good" bags. I followed the Feeding schedule on my Bottles @25ml / 4l or 2tsp / gallon, But am using liquid karma to allow more nutes to be used (unlock) Nowhere does it say to cut back on bloom if using karma, and that mix gets me up to the 1800 range. I removed some nutes and added fresh water this morning, it is now down to around 1500ppm I'll see in the morning how they are dooing, Also noticed my moisture level was about 20, Added a bucket of fresh water near the fan. What moisture level should I be keeping now anyhow with the huge buds that are growing.

She has been raised on fairly high levels her whole life and never burned once. sever others did so I did lower them, that's why I did not suspect nute burn. seems she had enough and now wants lower levels, fine by me.
just worried she is an early finisher cause she is easily 4x the size of any of the others, and they are all the same age exactly..
 
Scrogreen

Scrogreen

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Do you have a x10 or x30 scope? Thats the only way you will know if they are getting close to done. For flowering the RH should be around 50%, when you have big bids you can go down to 40% for the last week or so.
 
Erdericks

Erdericks

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ph is @ 6.1 ppm is up to 1500 now, and my leaves are still yellowing and dying, yellowing leaves are starting to appear on the bud leaves now also. not sure what to do. Gonna try and flush and put them on just plain water.


23 more days till 8 weeks, tricombs look cloudy. Think I may bypass flushing and harvest this plant or at least the buds that are cloudy..
How long do they stay cloudy until they start to turn amber?
 
Scrogreen

Scrogreen

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Erdericks said:
ph is @ 6.1 ppm is up to 1500 now, and my leaves are still yellowing and dying, yellowing leaves are starting to appear on the bud leaves now also. not sure what to do. Gonna try and flush and put them on just plain water.


23 more days till 8 weeks, tricombs look cloudy. Think I may bypass flushing and harvest this plant or at least the buds that are cloudy..
How long do they stay cloudy until they start to turn amber?
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Just depents on the Plant and strain when they will turn amber but you dont want them to turn amber. A few yes but not a lot. Also Its to little to late in the game to do much of anything now about the yellow leaves. I think just leave what you got in there for another week then just go to strait water for the rest of the time. Another trick you can do is go to just water now and change your lights to 10hrs on 14hrs off. This will force them to finish a little faster and help with a little better resin. Doesnt hurt the PGE bill either!
 
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