1000w Master Kush/Swiss Cheese Scrog Grow

[PakChild]

id give more +rep if i could man!!! quick question.... does the swiss cheese have as much resin as the others? among them all is there a big difference in overall quality/height/flowering-time/ease-difficulty??

im trying so hard to make a decision for my closet... (prolly either blackberry, crystal, white rhino, swiss cheese, or snow white.) seems like SC would be the skunkiest too, and i love skunks but hate long flowering... thats why im so curious about your opinion thx so much!!

and hey!! i think ive burnt my plants with a lil too much molasses b4 too! plus it makes more nutes available to the plant making it burn easier too. flushing with water didnt seem to help a whole lot for me either... ive just decided not to use as much molasses (n certain plants especially)

Swiss Cheese is actually coming along quicker than anything else and it looks like it was dipped in sugar, but then again all of them are. But if I had to choose one out of the ones your thinking then I would defently choose swiss cheese cause it finishes in 7-8 weeks atleast thats what Nirvana says so thats my opinion.

 

[PakChild]

Day 141 - MK SC / Day 115 - WR WW SN VFT
Day 50 FLOWER

Well today I gave them just 10ml of BioThrive per 2L, noticed a lil bit of nute burn on em, nothing major though. Everythings starting to chunk up finally and alot of the hairs are starting to change red. Trichs are milky! looking real good.

 

[h3adshot]

subd!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PakChild]

Day 145 - MK SC / Day 119 - WR WW SN VFT
Day 54 FLOWER

I didn't water them since friday, everything was pretty dry today, 2 plants were drooping but I watered everything at 6.0 ph today. Everythings defently bulking up but the trichs are still 50/50 on clear and milky. My electric bill has been rediculous, fuckin $350, don't get how didn't pay that much when I had the lights running 24/7, but whatever I guess...


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[smellzlikeskunkyum]

Swiss Cheese is actually coming along quicker than anything else and it looks like it was dipped in sugar, but then again all of them are. But if I had to choose one out of the ones your thinking then I would defently choose swiss cheese cause it finishes in 7-8 weeks atleast thats what Nirvana says so thats my opinion.

Dude thx so much for the response your a big help... (im ordering very very soon here, i'll let you know the final decision)

THX!!! id give more +rep if possible lol!

 

[smellzlikeskunkyum]

hey real quick.... is the swiss cheese the tallest plant out of the bunch? if not what is? i just cant let em get too big on me. thx!!

 

[PakChild]

Their all medium height, and if it does get too tall on u, tie that bitch down

 

[PakChild]

I've been considering pulling off all the fan leaves to give everything better lighting and better air flow since they got less than 2 weeks left, think this would benefit them or slow things down some?

 

[Hudsonvalley82]

Only take them off if it feels like the plant wants to let them grow. Those leaves are the power plants for your bud, I remove them if the yellow badly thats about it. Maybe tuck them under some of the under developed buds to mature them.
When the plant is ready it'll pull what it needs to from the leaf and let it go. Until then, listen to the plant, if it wants its fan leaves then let it have them, its def putting them to good work if they are green.

 

[PakChild]

Day 148 - MK SC / Day 122 - WW WR SN VFT
Day 57 FLOWER

Everythings looking REAL good, a swiss cheese turned purple, pretty badass. Trichs are all milky a lil bit of amber here n there. Been flushing them for a week now, been letting them dry out before watering. The smell actually seems not as strong as it was a week ago, it smelled so strong you could smell it 30 yards away outside, not good. Next time I gotta make sure I take better precautions with the odor. Some are so top heavy that their falling down. I got the dehumidifier running, it feels so hot/warm n stuffy in there, humidity has been at 50%

 

[PakChild]

Well I've got some pretty fucked up news. As I've stated before this was a partnership grow, my buddy had the place and I had all the knowledge. I got a call thursday from his X saying that shes worried that he was gonna stab me in the back and cut everything down and give me nothing, she said she'd hate to see that happen cause she knows how much work I've put in to this whole thing. So I went and cut down all the big buds for the most part, the deal was suppose to be 60/40 me getting 40% I agreeded to this due to him paying the electric and taking the risk. He was never there, both had a key to the place, so I went there and filled up 2 grocery bags to the max, I probably got about a pound when its dry, sucks cause I was in such a hurry that I couldn't have everything seperated by strains but I've spent enough time in there to know whats what. I'm pretty disappointed that it had to turn out this way, hes all fucked up on pills, I saw this coming. I'm not sure he even realizes that I've taken my share, he txted my buddies phone yesterday to tell me that he changed the locks and I needed to see him to get a new one or some shit, so I got my shit just in the nick of time. I put my heart and soul into this grow for me not to get anything. I wish things didn't have to come to this, people get greedy, I've lost tons of friends over shit like this and I knew this was bound to happen, partnerships DON'T work. But I will have an out door journal this year, this doesn't mean I'm done by a long shot. I take alot of pride and joy in this and love to share my experience with the rest of the people here on RIU. I'll have some pictures of what I got hanging up right now and I'll have a video demonstrating on making hash oil with my trimmings and pop corn buds.

 

[Hudsonvalley82]

I hate when stupid partner BS happens like that...bad news indeed.

Well I've got some pretty fucked up news. As I've stated before this was a partnership grow, my buddy had the place and I had all the knowledge. I got a call thursday from his X saying that shes worried that he was gonna stab me in the back and cut everything down and give me nothing, she said she'd hate to see that happen cause she knows how much work I've put in to this whole thing. So I went and cut down all the big buds for the most part, the deal was suppose to be 60/40 me getting 40% I agreeded to this due to him paying the electric and taking the risk. He was never there, both had a key to the place, so I went there and filled up 2 grocery bags to the max, I probably got about a pound when its dry, sucks cause I was in such a hurry that I couldn't have everything seperated by strains but I've spent enough time in there to know whats what. I'm pretty disappointed that it had to turn out this way, hes all fucked up on pills, I saw this coming. I'm not sure he even realizes that I've taken my share, he txted my buddies phone yesterday to tell me that he changed the locks and I needed to see him to get a new one or some shit, so I got my shit just in the nick of time. I put my heart and soul into this grow for me not to get anything. I wish things didn't have to come to this, people get greedy, I've lost tons of friends over shit like this and I knew this was bound to happen, partnerships DON'T work. But I will have an out door journal this year, this doesn't mean I'm done by a long shot. I take alot of pride and joy in this and love to share my experience with the rest of the people here on RIU. I'll have some pictures of what I got hanging up right now and I'll have a video demonstrating on making hash oil with my trimmings and pop corn buds.

 

[PakChild]

yeah it sucks, I hate fighting with people, I've just been completely ignoring him. I'm nervous hes gonna come over here n start shit. I got a 4 year old and she doesn't need to hear that shit. I got my shit drying in a safe place incase he got the balls to come in here. I had the lights unplugged cause I was planning on giving them 48 hours of darkness before chopping them but I was sooooo paranoid and he had txted my buddies phone saying for him to tell me that we need to talk cause we got 'ganja problems' or some shit so after I heard that I was in my car hauling ass over there, was so nervous that everything was already gone. But I still don't know if he knows I took my share, the plants could be dead for all I know by now, I watered them wednesday morning last and thats when I unplugged everything, hes spent probably 2 hours at the most in that room but I know he was thinking of a way to tell me that they were gone or something then he was telling his X that he was just gonna give me a lil bit and how he was gonna get a new truck. This asshole is so fucked up on xanax or however you spell it that he blacks out and forgets the whole day. Then he brings his fucked up cousin over there to and he goes through every single drawer in the house seeing what he can pawn to get cash. I'm just happy I got my share, I coulda been an asshole and taken everything but I'm not like that. This whole thing was about helping out our families and having some good smoke, hes just gonna blow all his on pills when he has a son, his wife well now X and shes pregnant on top of it. Such a fuck up, I can give a fuck less about him or his drama anymore. I just hope I never have to talk to him and that he doesn't come over here all fucked up starting shit, I've been really stessed out over all this, giving myself an alsaur. Just hate drama and confrontation, too laid back of a person for that dumb shit.

 

[PakChild]

I got everything put into jars, well 10 mason jars, a giant plastic kinda cheese puffs container with wax paper inside it cause i figured the containers pretty static and didn't want the hairs and trichs sticking to the container. But I got 15 1/2 oz's and prob 3 oz's worth of trim to make hash oil.

Oh yea and it was all buds, sizes averaged 1 foot, some were 2 foot, only got 2 jars full of popcorn stuff. And most of the buds weighed about 20 grams a piece. so pretty damn good! everything sparkles too, and I got a couple colas that look real reddish orange as you can see in the picture. I had my one boy help me out with drying this and i told him to make sure he put a fan on in the room, well i think he had it blowing under them and kinda dried them too fast, their a lil dryer than i'd like, the stem doesn't snap off so its not really that dry, but now their in jars and i'll burp em for an hour every 6 for the next couple weeks, i got one lil jar that i'm smoking on for now and everything is REALLY good, gives me that paranoid rush feeling though but the smell is kinda peppery for the most part, nice and fluffy after you've put it through a grinder, not getting that many trichs through the silk screen in the grinder but i think thats just cause it isn't dust dry, but overall I'm very happy with the outcome, coulda gave it another week though if it wasn't for all the bullshit going on.

 

[PakChild]

I'm having trouble with this camera, the flash is like way to bright, blurs the picture. I'll get it figured out though and get better pictures later today.

 

[Hudsonvalley82]

Nice Pull!

 

[PakChild]

I made some hash oil using butane. Went to the hardware store and bought a 1 1/4" stick of pvc piping with a cap made a 2' long extractor pipe. Put my trimmings in the freezer after they were dried. I DID NOT grind up my trimmings because I've heard from alot of people you get more chrolophyl in it and makes your oil more black. The cans of butane I bought were from Kmart and they did not come with a tip for me to spray it, so I got a real skinny drill bit, drilled the whole way through the cap then got another drill bit that was a tad thicker and drilled just a tad down so I would be able to push that can down and have it spray in the extraction tube. But I completely filled the tube then put 2 coffee filters on the bottom and used a shoelace to keep it tied on then I spray 4 cans of butane through it and let the butane drip into a glass cooking tray which sat in warm water. I didn't weigh out how much the stick holds, I still got more to run through, but I did 2 seperate runs and probably got about a gram, it looks like mustard. Its a pretty different kind of high, I've been smoking it with bud in a bowl, don't really know a good way of smoking it straight but it gives me more of a rushy, energetic, clear head high. Ya can taste the butane though, I've gotten slabs of this black hash before that tasted the same way, not too big of a fan of that taste but it does the job. I'll put some pictures up later

 

[chb444220]

great grow man... sorry 2 hear bout that shit happening man.. ahd sumthin similar happen 2 me... i have a friend that ive known for a while.. adn he knew i was growing. adn wanted to try it himself. he had a lil mini cfl setup.. but wen he got his taxes.. he wanted to upgrade to a 400 watt HPS soo i ordered it 4 him and everything. and gave it 2 him. but he only had 1 plant going that i think was gonna end up being a hermie. cuz he had no timer. he just turned the lights on and off wen he would remember. =/

but anyways.... he was onew of like 2 or 3 ppl who knew i was growing adn where it was grown and what not.. and one day. after work. he wanted to come by adn grab a lil bud.. soo i told him i was runnin late adn id be home in like an hour.. welll... ym gf came home 1/2 hour later adn said sumthing broke in thru MY window... took all my weed. her laptop. and her $300 necklace i had JUST bought her for Valentines Day (it happened the night b4 V-Day)... and took all my lil samples as well... i ahd a collection of lil mini paint jars... and i was collecting 1-2 small buds from each grow i had ever done.. just to be able to look and compare the way the buds looked and the smell adn what not. i didnt ever plan on smoking them. jsut htought it would be cool to have a sample from every grow.. adn i had about 7-10 of them.. those were taken too..

i think he was in the house wen my gf came home... cuz my laptop was right on the floor. and he didnt take that... adn my/her ipod as well.. and i had a plant that was ready to be chopped... and he didnt touch that.. i feel like she came home and he just took off running without finishing what he came there to do... i text him adn told him wat happened... adn he was jsu tlike damnnn mann.. that sucks. id be pissed... idk i feel like he's be a lil more upset ya know? tehn i didnt hear from him for a week 1/2.. adn he used to text me daily or every other day... then he text me a couple times like hey. watsup? but i jus tnever wrote him back. adn now i havent heard from him for weeks.......... kinda strange right. it had 2 b sum1 i knew.. cuz they came in thru MY window only... soo they musta known I had sum good shit in my room. i got a nice lil alarm system adn shit now..

but it jsut sucks to know one of ur really really good friends could do sumthin like that.. =/ but he was a shady person anywayz... always in and outta jail... robbin people at gunpoint and shit.. stabbing people. stealing cars..... lol. probly not the best person 2 b friends with.. but idk... i dont wanna confront him or anything.. cuz i dont feel like dealin with him.. rather just ignore him.. and not deal with him coin here.. starting shit..

well jsut had to vent that all out... sorry man. lol. justhad to say it 2 sum1 else who had sumthin "similar" happen.

 

[PakChild]

great grow man... sorry 2 hear bout that shit happening man.. ahd sumthin similar happen 2 me... i have a friend that ive known for a while.. adn he knew i was growing. adn wanted to try it himself. he had a lil mini cfl setup.. but wen he got his taxes.. he wanted to upgrade to a 400 watt HPS soo i ordered it 4 him and everything. and gave it 2 him. but he only had 1 plant going that i think was gonna end up being a hermie. cuz he had no timer. he just turned the lights on and off wen he would remember. =/

but anyways.... he was onew of like 2 or 3 ppl who knew i was growing adn where it was grown and what not.. and one day. after work. he wanted to come by adn grab a lil bud.. soo i told him i was runnin late adn id be home in like an hour.. welll... ym gf came home 1/2 hour later adn said sumthing broke in thru MY window... took all my weed. her laptop. and her $300 necklace i had JUST bought her for Valentines Day (it happened the night b4 V-Day)... and took all my lil samples as well... i ahd a collection of lil mini paint jars... and i was collecting 1-2 small buds from each grow i had ever done.. just to be able to look and compare the way the buds looked and the smell adn what not. i didnt ever plan on smoking them. jsut htought it would be cool to have a sample from every grow.. adn i had about 7-10 of them.. those were taken too..

i think he was in the house wen my gf came home... cuz my laptop was right on the floor. and he didnt take that... adn my/her ipod as well.. and i had a plant that was ready to be chopped... and he didnt touch that.. i feel like she came home and he just took off running without finishing what he came there to do... i text him adn told him wat happened... adn he was jsu tlike damnnn mann.. that sucks. id be pissed... idk i feel like he's be a lil more upset ya know? tehn i didnt hear from him for a week 1/2.. adn he used to text me daily or every other day... then he text me a couple times like hey. watsup? but i jus tnever wrote him back. adn now i havent heard from him for weeks.......... kinda strange right. it had 2 b sum1 i knew.. cuz they came in thru MY window only... soo they musta known I had sum good shit in my room. i got a nice lil alarm system adn shit now..

but it jsut sucks to know one of ur really really good friends could do sumthin like that.. =/ but he was a shady person anywayz... always in and outta jail... robbin people at gunpoint and shit.. stabbing people. stealing cars..... lol. probly not the best person 2 b friends with.. but idk... i dont wanna confront him or anything.. cuz i dont feel like dealin with him.. rather just ignore him.. and not deal with him coin here.. starting shit..

well jsut had to vent that all out... sorry man. lol. justhad to say it 2 sum1 else who had sumthin "similar" happen.

I've had that happen quite a few times. Pisses me off the people you bring into your life, help em out and they stab you in the back. I've lost NUMEROUS so-called friends to issues like this. The dude I did this grow with has been threatening me left and right saying I owe him this n that for the electric bills but I've just 100% been ignoring him, I know hes just gonna spend it on pills or crack and I coulda been a dick and took more than my 40% but I was fair. I know he got about a pound out of it and he traded it all for xanax already and crack, lasted him a week now hes harrassing me trying to get his next high, but when people see $ signs they get greedy, especially when your addicted to ANY opiate. I'm almost a year clean, actually tomorrow I'll be 11 months clean of herion but I still got this ball and chain connected to me called METHADONE that I'm having the hardest time trying to get off of. But atleast I'm 'clean' and my lifes finally starting to come back together. But from all this I've learned one big thing, PARTNERSHIPS on grows DON'T work and DON'T tell anyone!

 

[TheOrganic]

Sorry to hear your troubles been awhile since I talked too ya. I think you wanted to punch me when I chopped my shit but so did I but all good
What a fucking punk! I used to do a lot of oxy's back in the day so I get it opiates will twist your ass up man I was banging for only a year and 4yrs later still pops in my head like damn would be nice again just once but fuck that it never ends with that and thats too far. Never was too shady of a guy too do something like that though damn.
Shit I remember when you were telling me about them 2 fighting and shit and I said to be careful with that woman but low and behold its the dude that wants to be shady and she helps you out with the heads up nice. I learned a little lesson there that bros aren't always before hoes or this case she went friend before X.
At least you got your share could've been worse. Always next time and next time is better. Later