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Gygax1974
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Double exactly.EXACTLY!
I hope you get those seeds too, like abud said he's no thief..as far as I know. He had ample opportunity to do it to me...I dropped cash on numerous occasions....good luck.
Didn't mean to sound mean in the last post, but lets respect each others privacy, like PMing the IM name would have been smarter but still not right. I apologize but it makes me sad to see so much of it lately (disrespect of privacy)...honor among thieves my fellow growers/seed purchasers....LOL.
Pretend like this is the real world and take care of your business in the proper manner and move on...like I said I've been ripped before it stings but you get over it.
thanks for the infoif you have aol or aol instant messenger his screen name is nongreenthumb and you can usually find him on there
abudsmoker
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Lets cut the BULL. He Restarted this thing with the Rope-A-Dope thread. 6 days to the us...... blah blah blah. Man alot of members jumped right in, it got busy, or he got behind, however AFTER he got your money Communication WAS slim.
MANY MANY members have come here claiming they cant get a hold while others chat. When he was a mod here he went invisible to hide.
HIDING and Deception are bad traits, this honor amoung thiefs bull is crap.....
You are saying its ok to FUCK the members of this site over.
You can thank yourself and NGT for creating this exposure. Emails are easy, Being a thief is hard. He ruined himself. that is not how you do business. There are broken deals all over this site and his past. Stop Embracing this behavior. The lack of communication is unexcusable.
The fact the site is now down brings terrible fear, the amount of bad deals will grow as more speak out. if this man was a man he would contact his customers. He did NOT do good business, or even Safe business.
Telling people its tough love when he didnt even ship them is laughable, Tell me i didnt read that! JEZZZZZ get real, these are real people, and thier hard earned money, you call them Thiefs???????? WTF , they trusted him only to be betrayed.
They are ordering seeds how does that justify getting ripped off? how does that make them a thief?
MANY MANY members have come here claiming they cant get a hold while others chat. When he was a mod here he went invisible to hide.
HIDING and Deception are bad traits, this honor amoung thiefs bull is crap.....
You are saying its ok to FUCK the members of this site over.
You can thank yourself and NGT for creating this exposure. Emails are easy, Being a thief is hard. He ruined himself. that is not how you do business. There are broken deals all over this site and his past. Stop Embracing this behavior. The lack of communication is unexcusable.
The fact the site is now down brings terrible fear, the amount of bad deals will grow as more speak out. if this man was a man he would contact his customers. He did NOT do good business, or even Safe business.
Telling people its tough love when he didnt even ship them is laughable, Tell me i didnt read that! JEZZZZZ get real, these are real people, and thier hard earned money, you call them Thiefs???????? WTF , they trusted him only to be betrayed.
They are ordering seeds how does that justify getting ripped off? how does that make them a thief?
Gygax1974
Just some idiot
ME and NGT can thank ourselves, I don't think so bud. I ordered seeds from WMMS I got said seeds everytime...TRUTH so I said I got seeds everytime lots of people did., Who started the Monster thread? Did you not give WMMS exposure. To be honest with you I tend to keep to myself, yes I've talked to NGT I've talked to lots of people. I'm also not the one posting peoples personal info (paypal links), MEANING ALL OF US WHO DID GET SEEDS COULD GET IN TROUBLE. And I'm sorry dude it's not cool. Yeah Honor among thieves, even you admitted he's no thief...Yeah Honor among thieves, meaning you obviously don't posting PERSONAL INFO. Give us a break grow your plants let it go. He didn't even rip you, so he may have to go out and get stock BIG DEAL. Oh by the way what did the cops have for lunch today? BACON
Unique
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Yeah i love comments like this with underlying meaning and inside jokes on a site such as this one.
nowstopwhining
Too many brownies
I don't see what the big problem is...I got my seeds no problem. So have others. It took about 3.5 weeks but I still got them and they were in the original packaging just as promised...
abudsmoker
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Lets pick this apart, i think your way off base,
"You got seeds, and so did lots of others", Well does that justify taking from others? No
Now when you paid for tech support didnt you fear one of the people here could be BAD? No you felt secure because he was trusted, hell he was a moderator. Do you think that is safe for anyof the members.
There are 35 thousandish people here, When we promoted one of our own it got to big! Im not going to go into all the broken deals.
But like i said lets cut the BULLSHIT
Tell me how you embrace him REFUSING TO RETURN EMAILS? WTF is he dead ? Seriously how do you justify this?
Second I too promoted this mans service while i waited for my order.
The service was horrible. My upgrade SUCKED. Hey im bigger than that.
So i tried again............ If you got the BALLS to come on the biggest site and scam 2 or 10 or 5000 people and i can STOP IT I WILL.
You Steal From ME or others here I Will bite back.
Honestly i dont care about anyone here. never have, i have no ties or connections, no clicks. Safety and security are important. i learned on overgrow
to never stop having a buffer zone. My pal "joe" Mega ASS hole is this screen name. He email Now he has paypal what next???
Lets talk about his judgement, The payment provider he was using, Is the biggest in the us. Nearly everyone uses it.
This provider urges it customers to confirm the address meaning at some point you need add a credit card. So go to paypal and try to fund a new account with no factual data and use a disposableCC. Took Me and thousands of members @ WWW.Nopaypal.com. You can see how over the years thousands have been ripped of with scams.
If someone hacked his account for bad business EVERYONES info would be everywhere.
Now G whatever 1974 what do you have to say about that huge safety breech????????????????????????????????????
But you never considered it, NO everyone is good... Honor among thieves,
Lets Talk about that. How do you gain all this trust? you use the name and members of this site and THE " ROPE A DOPE " Add "just so you know 6 days to the west coast" lol it sounded so so good.
i ordered seeds for 9 different people. the totals were more than most grow rooms. When you say i am not out any money, that is incorrect.
I lost 88.25 thats what it cost me out of my pocket to replace the "upgrade"
he did. Bud wanted hindu kush skunk, So great now i got so Extra seeds because he couldnt get my seeds ? He didnt email he upgraded. he didnt refund he "upgraded"
So round 2
I really thought there was just a little snag the first time, no hard feelings. he beat another sites price on 2 150ish strains And i needed some greenhouse widow.i emailed and inquired about all them before hand after 3 days he got back to me my total was 340 Chris funded a card for us. We paid him So i lost 60.00 of my money there. But when we were getting the three week stall my buddy ordered AK47 elsewhere that screwed me i had to pay for it.
Yep then in the End, Chris chunked the card thinking it was useless. So i was forced to pay out again here we go 88.00 + 340 + 133.00 to replace ak and 190 to replace NYC sour. $751 this man cost me. I still sat back and just ate it...............
Then every fucking day another WWMS thread rubbing it in. well it went sour fast, and more and more good people kept getting pulled in. i finally spoke out, i sugar coated it. That was a mistake. people were coming here stating i have been emailing for weeks and nothing..... NGT went WWW. that brings responsibility he let us all down. I offered a direct way to contact this business........
WTF is wrong with that. NGT has operated a company, service what ever you call it, it MAIL FRUAD. You can not take from others. What did i place on the line poor ole joe blow. A few thousand posts, a few pictures a few months. If you or this site Embrace this criminal action more power to you.
It repulses me, as i claim in "the" post. I am Sad to see NGT site and business down. but happy to bring a end to the bad deals. Alot of these first time buyers will be scared. One of our own ripping us off is ok?
Again how do you Excuse the lack of communication, it really sucks he is not here to answer this question but how do you defend these actions?
tckfui
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ok... I dont understand what is soo hard, and confusing... now... picture you... with your wife, and 2 kids, and you, have to cook for them, take them to school and other places, shoping, solving problems, keeping stuff on the low, trying to expand, wraping each package individualy, personanlly, ordering all the seeds you need, answering everyones email complaining about dumb shit... and some people send 13 emails... and having to go through each one and deciding which is garbage, and what to respond to. and on top of all this... growing a giant garden, and having to make find some time to smoke some!!! I basicaly do shit! and dont have enough time... I would kill mself if I was him, its just too much work... and than having all these people complain, and say your ripping them off because you cant wait alittle bit.
I know for a fact he would not rip off most of his coustomers, it would be an incredibly foolish and stupid... just a fucking retarrted thing to do!!! I believe he understands that a majority of people who order will re order... and get more stuff the second and third time. he would just be completly fucking himself over by ripping people off!!!
besides that, how would he decide who to rip off?!? it just dosnt add up!
I know for a fact he would not rip off most of his coustomers, it would be an incredibly foolish and stupid... just a fucking retarrted thing to do!!! I believe he understands that a majority of people who order will re order... and get more stuff the second and third time. he would just be completly fucking himself over by ripping people off!!!
besides that, how would he decide who to rip off?!? it just dosnt add up!
Preach it Brother....I could not agree more.....this whiny little asshole has fucked it up for a lot of happy WWMS customers.
abudsmoker
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Again you have failed to present a answer to all the customers that get the shaft.
abudsmoker
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You dont see a problem.... Thats right. Remember the rope a dope adds
6 days ......... not 3 weeks............ not 3 weeks to get a answer. were are all the complaints coming from ???????
abudsmoker
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i sold goods with ebay for 3 years 3000+ transactions a month, thousands of emails. it is part of running a business.
Speaking about dumb shit, you were posting worried for 2-3 weeks while you waited.
abudsmoker
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is it me ???? or is it all the people NGT has compromised....
How have i made you unsafe? please answer that?
https://www.rollitup.org/make-your-requests/48869-remove-site-search-engines.html
tckfui
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I was worried before my package was sent. I couldnt figure out how to pay... now I'm having the same dumb ass problem, its pissing me off, but its not his fault, its the payment methods fault, its confusing. once I payed I stoped worring... and got my seeds 7 days later
I would rather be ripped off 800 bucks than be arested... but thats just me. I dont know what jail is like where you are, its porbably not too bad
his pc has been down for a week, and emails are backed up to almost 1000 emails. thats alot of replying to do, so he is still going to be back up unil he catches up... well I guess that goes without saying. but I will gladly wait awhile to help a guy start his thing... but again. thats just me
I would rather be ripped off 800 bucks than be arested... but thats just me. I dont know what jail is like where you are, its porbably not too bad
his pc has been down for a week, and emails are backed up to almost 1000 emails. thats alot of replying to do, so he is still going to be back up unil he catches up... well I guess that goes without saying. but I will gladly wait awhile to help a guy start his thing... but again. thats just me
abudsmoker
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i really made it clear to all before this started that it needed to end a long time ago. i made a post that stated the fallout from this would have lasting implications across the site.
This man has drawn many lines in RIU. Hell i saw this 3 times on OG. All ended in police arrest. All were Fallen "good guys"
See im not into the clicks and good ole boy networks. i dont come here to profit from members, i dont have personal relationships except with 1 person here. you all are some prix just like me behid a key board, i would spend hours helping members solve problemsand grow. I have 3 fourms 1 that i own.
None of these require the saftey that RIU needs.
Some members dont understand everything they say RIU is on Google.
When you tie all the profiles and people together over and over and one COP
gets in you all fall...............
See all these cop comments now where is the Freaking safety.
If i am not the cop who is? so when you make a thread about WWMS google gets it...........
Now where is the Saftey in the rope a dope adds......
Dont hate....... kick yourself in the ass. It has to stop....
SAFTEY FIRST
dankforall
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Nothing can be easy. Everything gets so messy. I also sell on ebay and usually answer emails fast, unless its an answer they dont want to hear.
dankforall
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what are the other sites?? Just curious I would like to check them out!
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