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researchkitty

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so first are you going to be adding co2? Now onto a different topic I just started DWC and have some vegging right now but i noticed the other day a ring around the bucket of hyroton dust, was wondering if this is normal? or did i just not wash it enough?
When I add water cooling to the lights I will add co2 around the same time.

If you have Hydroton "dust", then you have "dirty" Hydroton. It isnt really "dirty" as it is just parts of the clay pellets crumblihg apart and making "dust". Rinse it and clean it, you didnt do a good 'nuff job the first time around. It takes me two rinses to clean "used" Hydroton, and three or four to clean "new" Hydroton because its just been dry and dusty the entire way from Germany to Canada. Once its wet and being used it doesnt really get that dusty or dirty, but still clean every harvest with a tiny bit of bleach (1-2ml / gallon to rinse out the first time) and a little FloraKleen on secondary rinses.
 

Majesta

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When I add water cooling to the lights I will add co2 around the same time.

If you have Hydroton "dust", then you have "dirty" Hydroton. It isnt really "dirty" as it is just parts of the clay pellets crumblihg apart and making "dust". Rinse it and clean it, you didnt do a good 'nuff job the first time around. It takes me two rinses to clean "used" Hydroton, and three or four to clean "new" Hydroton because its just been dry and dusty the entire way from Germany to Canada. Once its wet and being used it doesnt really get that dusty or dirty, but still clean every harvest with a tiny bit of bleach (1-2ml / gallon to rinse out the first time) and a little FloraKleen on secondary rinses.
its fun to see im not the only one to get brown walter color after a grow cleanup.

do the hydroton gonna lost all his coating after a long period of use ?
 

CultivationArt

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iv always changed it, but idk. it possible, mine seem smaller after harvest, and im cleaning netties out.
like from a marble to a rock lol
 

researchkitty

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After each harvest, the Hydroton isnt really dirty usually. The last week of the flush with just water and Royal Flush makes the rocks clean up clear water for the most part. I've *never* seen a reason to replace hydroton, its meant to be re-usable. Since its baked as just clay, there isnt really a coating or anything that goes away over time. Its just a clay pebble. As long as ph and ppm are maintained and the rocks are clean to begin with, they'll last for years............
 

Majesta

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i mean coating because when y snap a hydroton, you see its black inside, so i was thinking that was a coating.
 

ledgrowing

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love this grow kitty u inspire me i have been here watching from the beggining and will follow till the end if u ever decide to end it lol dont you just love canada i know i do all i can say is wow and you and mr kitty seem like me and my wife just chilled back canadians who love natural mother natures medicine rock out with your cock out kitty RESPECT
 

researchkitty

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i mean coating because when y snap a hydroton, you see its black inside, so i was thinking that was a coating.
Everyone calls Hydroton clay pellets, its really a shale. From Wikipedia: "Shale is a fine-grained, clastic sedimentary rock composed of mud that is a mix of flakes of clay minerals and tiny fragments (silt-sized particles) of other minerals, especially quartz and calcite. The ratio of clay to other minerals is variable.[1] Shale is characterized by breaks along thin laminae or parallel layering or bedding less than one centimeter in thickness, called fissility.[1] Mudstones, on the other hand, are similar in composition but do not show the fissility." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale ).

The clay is pelletized and then fired in a kiln. The kiln firing is what changes the outer color, the inside is the same material as the outside. The reason the outside half of the shell is fired, is to create extra pores and make it a solid 'piece'. The inside isnt porous as much, or heated thoroughly so its a different color and texture.

I referenced another poster in another thread here as an idiot for continuing to push using granite instead of Hydroton. I think everyone who doesnt look into it assumes its a rock, but it isnt, hence it works. Any fashion of a granite replacement has no pores. Sure, its not a smooth surface, but it aint porous at all! They are ganging up on me in there its kinda funny. They say I have attitude that if someone does it another way that I beat em up. Thats not really true, I beat em up if they do it in a way that sacrifices yield for trying to be bill nye the science guy in the grow room with no experience at it. :) Let em try to hack ebb & grow, they fail, we win with Hydroton. :) :)

love this grow kitty u inspire me i have been here watching from the beggining and will follow till the end if u ever decide to end it lol dont you just love canada i know i do all i can say is wow and you and mr kitty seem like me and my wife just chilled back canadians who love natural mother natures medicine rock out with your cock out kitty RESPECT
Thanks :) :) :)

hey kitty, how far away do you set your lights in flowering?
As low as the heat will allow. I generally leave them a little higher when beginning flowering, for no more reason than not to give them "all" the light at once, lower em over the course of a few days.
 

cmt1984

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wow...that sounds like a lot of work, especially the trimming. just you and the hubby do all that or do you have help?

enjoy chopping down all those pretty ladies, thats always my favorite part of growing them.
 

woodsmaneh!

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I used hydro-tron years ago and what I remember most is it's like trying to keep 100 three year old kids in one spot, good luck, marbles all over the place, a big pain in the ass. So I am giving RDWC a try and what I did was poured it into a mesh laundry bag and dropped it into the washing machine. The pumps in them are very forgiving and all the little stuff goes throught the bag and out the drain. I always use the extra rinse and the stuff comes out spotless. I put bleach in the softer despencer so they get it twice, wash and rinse #1. Added bonus is all the small stuff is gone, so it don't fall through the basket. You can always use a laundry mat. LOL

Great job Kitty FYI I get 1400 to 1600g with 40 plants under 2K in organic soil with co2 @ 1800ppm (I know should be 1500ppm I have my reason) I just water them. In the rooms without co2 I get 25% less. Money wise I should have co2 in all the rooms but I need to keep the electric cost reasonable. don't want to attract any attention. Co2 + heat = AC = $$$

This is 1 week before chop no Co2.

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researchkitty

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:) :) :) My plants arent huge, so each one takes about 30 minutes to trim and hang. Its pretty quick. I had 2 others helping with this harvest, so it was very fast (and done). I didnt snag any harvest pictures, but will be taking them from the dried finished plants tonight or tomorrow morning.

Still waiting for plants in veg to get bigger right now 3000w of lights are off waiting for more pre-vegged plants............ Did manage to harvest about 5g of pollen from a few of the males we plucked so that'll help for making new seeds later. :)
 

theinhibitor

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Hey kitty!
Im new to this site and I must say your op is amazing! Your op is definately something I will unfortunately never be able to do.
Im just starting to grow indoors in a micro hydroponic unit. Since im an electrical engineering major, im making my unit almost completely self contained with a wireless PIC32 board that will let me remotely control the height of my lamp, air intake, and feeding times and such.
Im very envious of your "800 grapefruit diesel seeds". I have like 15 seeds total :/
 

jimbizzzale67123

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Hey kitty!
Im new to this site and I must say your op is amazing! Your op is definately something I will unfortunately never be able to do.
Im just starting to grow indoors in a micro hydroponic unit. Since im an electrical engineering major, im making my unit almost completely self contained with a wireless PIC32 board that will let me remotely control the height of my lamp, air intake, and feeding times and such.
Im very envious of your "800 grapefruit diesel seeds". I have like 15 seeds total :/
Shit man hook me up with a automated setup, what kind of light you going to use?
 
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