How Many Christians On This Site?

Mike Young said:
You have not slighted me in the slightest. I meant that I'll be watching this thread. But really as a joke. I admire you're ability to reason. Perhaps come of your constituents could benefit from such an ability.
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I have no constituents - I'm not a politician, just a man living my own dream.
Peace
 
IregAt420 said:
Poser??

Uh, no. I just feel its ridiculous you guys come here in mocking us.

YOU do not know there is no God, just like we dont know there is one.

But I CHOOSE to believe, to have faith, and to have hope.

Im truly sorry your shallow souls and emotions dont give you the power to feel anything deeper than physical pain and daily emotions.

I've tried, I really have...to have reasonable debates, without name calling/bashing. I got bashed for believing in an invisible man and got slammed repeatedly for my beliefs...

Thats the exact reason I stay out of this section.
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Actions speak louder than words
 
And what actions have you seen?

I called a prick a prick...Are you going to judge me over it? "your god says not to call names blah blah blah

Mock me some more man, I really dont care. I have mine you have yours.

Heres the thing that really gets me, WE ALL SMOKE CANNABIS. Cant we just settle on that???
 
tip top toker said:
I recall one lovely gentleman actually stood in front of me and adamently argued that carbon dating proved the bibles legitimacy :lol: that made my day :D
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And police cars have "To protect and serve" emblazoned on the doors - of which neither is true depending on who's in the uniform.

I don't believe I've ever been called a numptie before - actually had to look that one up even tho I was born in the UK.
Quote time.

"The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness."
Albert Einstein - The Merging of Spirit and Science

Should we lump Einstein into the Numpties catagory as well?
 
GreatwhiteNorth said:
And police cars have "To protect and serve" emblazoned on the doors - of which neither is true depending on who's in the uniform.

I don't believe I've ever been called a numptie before - actually had to look that one up even tho I was born in the UK.
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"The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness."
Albert Einstein - The Merging of Spirit and Science

Should we lump Einstein into the Numpties catagory as well?
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I am making an effort to slow down on the religion bashing. And people like you make it easier or me to do so. Thank you.
 
Mike Young said:
I am making an effort to slow down on the religion bashing. And people like you make it easier or me to do so. Thank you.
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In a debate like this one must realize that you cannot change the other persons belief, and that is not my intent.
It is nice to have a civil discourse from the other side of the fence occasionally tho.
Have a nice day.
GWN

BTW, I like your sig. I'm sitting here swilling a Bud as we speak.
 
IregAt420 said:
Poser??

Uh, no. I just feel its ridiculous you guys come here in mocking us.

YOU do not know there is no God, just like we dont know there is one.

But I CHOOSE to believe, to have faith, and to have hope.

Im truly sorry your shallow souls and emotions dont give you the power to feel anything deeper than physical pain and daily emotions.

I've tried, I really have...to have reasonable debates, without name calling/bashing. I got bashed for believing in an invisible man and got slammed repeatedly for my beliefs...

Thats the exact reason I stay out of this section.
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Anyone has the right to believe any crazy thing that they want, however if you announce your beliefs on a public message board, then anyone has the right to mock said beliefs.

You are correct, you choose to believe and choose to have blind faith. Some of us do not understand how people can live their lives believing in things where there is insufficient rational reasons to believe. Just for the record, I'm critical of other unsupportable and crazy beliefs that are posted here including conspiracy theories, alien visitation, ghosts, etc.

Why do you think that your personal beliefs should be immune to any criticism when they are posted on a public board. I don't fear what other people say about my beliefs because I can defend each one on sound logic and reason.
 
mindphuk said:
Anyone has the right to believe any crazy thing that they want, however if you announce your beliefs on a public message board, then anyone has the right to mock said beliefs.

You are correct, you choose to believe and choose to have blind faith. Some of us do not understand how people can live their lives believing in things where there is insufficient rational reasons to believe. Just for the record, I'm critical of other unsupportable and crazy beliefs that are posted here including conspiracy theories, alien visitation, ghosts, etc.

Why do you think that your personal beliefs should be immune to any criticism when they are posted on a public board. I don't fear what other people say about my beliefs because I can defend each one on sound logic and reason.
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Well, we've had our debates...and its hard for us(christians) to argue with most atheists or non-believers however you want to look at it. We have our Faith, you guys have your science.

You have physical proof, and we dont. So, it looks like you guys 'win' every debate...

Its just this thread was started to ask how many christians are here, and Mike came in here with an insult, and it just got under my skin.

Mocking is just another word for trolling imho. Debating is different.
 
IregAt420 said:
Well, we've had our debates...and its hard for us(christians) to argue with most atheists or non-believers however you want to look at it. We have our Faith, you guys have your science.

You have physical proof, and we dont. So, it looks like you guys 'win' every debate...

Its just this thread was started to ask how many christians are here, and Mike came in here with an insult, and it just got under my skin.

Mocking is just another word for trolling imho. Debating is different.
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How can you be OK with believing something with no evidence? Especially when that something causes so much pain in the world. (referring to all the different faiths out there)
 
Padawanbater2 said:

How can you be OK with believing something with no evidence? Especially when that something causes so much pain in the world. (referring to all the different faiths out there)
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Im going to answer that with a question of my own...

How can you not see the beauty outside the pain?
Take a step outside, open up, just let the vibes come in...Its all so beautiful...I am ok with my belief because of that....

Dust into beauty? I doubt that.

"Especially when that something causes so much pain in the world."

You accredit the pain of this world to our Creator, yet you dont believe in him? That alone solidifies my argument.

If you want, there is a book you can read, called " The Shack".--it goes into a little more detail about that argument.

We as the created, have the most beautiful, yet the most dangerous of responsibilities....freedom of choice.

Lol, the choice to make weed illegal...look how much pain thats caused. And that plant, is natural grown. Nature itself is beautiful, and we are doing nothing but destroying it with our choices to better science and 'figure' this world out bit by bit.
 
GreatwhiteNorth said:
That was a very powerful book for me - I enjoyed it immensely.
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I was told several times to read it, I tried several times as well...I couldnt get into it.

Then, my woman left, heartbroken and down, it was like the diamond sparkling in the sea. It caught my eye and I finished it that night.

Im wanting to read it again, just to soak everything in again...I've never cried during a book but Man Oh Man! What a great read!
 
IregAt420 said:
Im going to answer that with a question of my own...

How can you not see the beauty outside the pain?
Take a step outside, open up, just let the vibes come in...Its all so beautiful...I am ok with my belief because of that....
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Why do religionists assume that people that don't accept your 'god' argument are somehow not able to see or appreciate beauty?

Dust into beauty? I doubt that.
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doesn't your scripture say that Yahweh created man from the dust
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"Especially when that something causes so much pain in the world."

You accredit the pain of this world to our Creator, yet you dont believe in him? That alone solidifies my argument.
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If you read the parenthetical, you would realize he wasn't talking about a creator but about religion. Religion is real, god is not. God cannot cause pain because he doesn't exist. Religionists cause a lot of pain in this world.
 
I didnt assume that he couldnt see the beauty, I told him how/why I was ok with my belief without 'evidence'.

Instead of looking at the pain that you think is ALL accredited to religion/God, look at the other side. Look at the transformations in peoples lives.

I knew I shouldve worded that one differently, I just dont believe dust formed this by itself.

Thats why I'm not so much into organized religion anymore, because that is actually something I can agree with.

My fault on the misread.
 
IregAt420 said:
I didnt assume that he couldnt see the beauty, I told him how/why I was ok with my belief without 'evidence'.

Instead of looking at the pain that you think is ALL accredited to religion/God, look at the other side. Look at the transformations in peoples lives.
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I have seen people transform their lives without a god. Do you believe a god is necessary? Do you actually believe that if someone is transformed by religion that means that the religion is true? For every person that gets transformed by Xianity there are 10 others that have been transformed by other non-Xian religions. You might be okay with false comfort but many of us are not.

Do you believe in homeopathy? Even if you don't believe that it is a valid medical treatment, some people would say that even if it was merely a placebo effect, some people are helped, so why criticize homeopathy? But the fact is, many people are hurt by homeopathy and likewise, many people are hurt by religion. We have Xians in Nigeria, killing their children because god says to 'suffer not a witch to live.' There Xians in Uganda that have passed laws to imprison gays (they wanted to execute them). We have Xian missionaries in AIDS ridden countries that are telling people not to wear condoms. We have Xians in this country that are trying to use the force of law to trample on the rights of woman and gays. We have families that become estranged and essentially disown their children, not because they join some other religion or cult but because they decided that there is insufficient evidence to continue believing in a god.

Whether you believe in a specific holy book and religion or not, the idea of promoting blind faith and ignorance is harmful.
 
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